@DH13 posted:I think almost all Brady career and TB/BB SB's are a lazy measuring stick. They are by far and away an outlier among all other QB/HC's in the history of the game.
Nobody cheated as often as with as much impunity as Brady and BB.
Any fans that use them as a measuring stick... should all be shot in the face.
....mmmm... ham & swiss today
There’s a very good chance that 3 of the Patriots titles in the early 2000s were influenced by spying related activities.
Yes! These are also reasons to not use TB/BB as a measuring stick. They are outliers or out and out liars (amiright?) in so many ways. Comparing any other team to them doesn't really produce any valuable information you can use to make that team better.
However...PM/AR in KC may still be in the middle of their run. If they continue to win SB's, like lots and lots of them, go ahead and put them next to NE. Cheat or no cheat.
Rodgers is trying to talk himself out of retirement and it is more difficult than he thought. He either walks away or stays with the Packers.
MP, Excellent pics of Rodgers getting ambushed with distinct facemask penalty that was never called. Packers got screwed on that play and it cost them the game.
@GBP1 posted:Rodgers is trying to talk himself out of retirement and it is more difficult than he thought. He either walks away or stays with the Packers.
MP, Excellent pics of Rodgers getting ambushed with distinct facemask penalty that was never called. Packers got screwed on that play and it cost them the game.
Face mask happened after the ball was out. Cards would still have the ball in FG range is what I think the ruling would have been.
It's all rumor.
@Roth Chris: #Packers President Mark Murphy on telecast of Girls State Basketball Tournament confirms team will honor trade request from @AaronRodgers12 if he wants it, confirms they gave permission to #Jets, and that everyone expects resolution by the start of free agency
@Packiderm posted:Face mask happened after the ball was out. Cards would still have the ball in FG range is what I think the ruling would have been.
Disagree.
@ilcuqui posted:@Roth Chris: #Packers President Mark Murphy on telecast of Girls State Basketball Tournament confirms team will honor trade request from @AaronRodgers12 if he wants it, confirms they gave permission to #Jets, and that everyone expects resolution by the start of free agency
Update: Indeed looks like the #Packers moved on to Jordan Love as their starter.
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) March 10, 2023
President Mark Murphy on if there’s a scenario where Aaron Rodgers is back with the team:
“Yeah, I mean unless, if things don't work out the way we want them. He is obviously a great player." pic.twitter.com/6DR87KUmot
He just can't keep his gap-toothed maw shut...there is an attention whore with the Packers, and it ain't #12.
@PackLandVA posted:Keep moving the goal posts. Now we’re talking about HoF, I guess.
If you think “playoff winning record” is the better/best barometer of a QBs success, so be it. I think it’s a lazy argument. A QB can play pedestrian or poorly and get credited for a win. Or play lights out, but his team losing. Of course, the intangibles.
That's not moving the goalposts, it's showing how a winning QB is viewed at the end of their career. That's why I said before, and you took exception to it, that Rodgers' last 2 MVPs were built on stats. He took a 13-3 team and made them a 13-3 team. His one yard TD passes were previously Aaron Jones 1 yard TD runs and the team success was the same.
@MichiganPacker posted:Ben Roethlisberger, 9 for 20, 0 TDs, 2 interceptions (both in red zone, one returned for a TD). WON Super Bowl 40.
Payton Manning, 13 for 23, 0 TDs, 1 interception, WON Super Bowl 50.
When Elway beat the Packers in the SB how many passes do you think were caught by a WR? 3 for 49 yards and 36 came on one play. He never threw more than 27 TD passes in a season, 6 times he didn't throw more TD than Ints, and he has a career passer rating of less than 80. He's considered one of the greats because he ended his career with 2 SBs.
@ammo posted:Looked good to me.
Me too, but I was laying sideways when I was watching. You must have put some Carlton Fisk on it.
@YATittle posted:Disagree.
Even if it did come out first, in the days before replay, a personal foul might keep the Packers in possession.
@Chongo posted:He just can't keep his gap-toothed maw shut...there is an attention whore with the Packers, and it ain't #12.
Murphy has to be close to mandatory retirement.
Brady is the perfect example of the QB getting too much credit when they win. Super Bowl vs Panthers? Mike Vrabel made the plays and short field to win it. Brady gets MVP. Next up? Ty Law makes the big plays, but Brady MVP. How about the comeback? James White plays the game of his life to carry the team back to cover Brady’s early struggles, but Brady makes a play late and he’s the MVP.
‘That’s not to say he isn’t an automatic Hall of Fame inductee, but he’s more like Aikman, Phil Sims, Bradshaw and Bart than most want to admit.
@PackerRick posted:Murphy has to be close to mandatory retirement.
We should have a countdown here and celebrate once it happens. In the meantime..
What stands out about Brady's performance is his accuracy and always finding the open receiver, along with his crunch time success. He was surgical for a very long time, especially with the game on the line. That's all I'll give him. But those abilities won him a lot of big games, whether he put them in position to win those games or not.
@YATittle posted:Disagree.
Ball was knocked loose before the face mask. Which means no one had possession when when penalty was committed. Michael Adams hit the ball knocking it loose then he grabbed the mask with the same hand. 1:33 of the video shows it. As far as the possession rule if they called the fumble I do not know
Elways 2 SB wins certainly plays a large role in how his career is seen. But before those two wins he was famous for his 4Q comebacks. I didn't realize those other stat nuggets about him.
I asked Packers President/CEO Mark Murphy why they let the Jets talk with Aaron Rodgers.
— Adriana Torres (@TorresAdrianaTV) March 10, 2023
“It’s a situation where I think we wanted to help Aaron achieve what he wanted, as well as the Packers. Hopefully it’ll create a situation where it’s a win for both sides.” pic.twitter.com/JNTOnO4VPv
I hate this stupid fucker so much.
I don't get it...what's wrong with what he said?
@FLPACKER posted:AR's career QB Rating in playoff games is 100.1 .... Tom Brady's is 89.8
That surprises the hell out of me. His play against the Niners and Bucs the last three years was sub par and I don't remember any high level play ( and I mean overall play, not single)since the throw to Cook and the win over Dallas years ago.
Fuck stats, watch the games.
@Packiderm posted:Ball was knocked loose before the face mask. Which means no one had possession when when penalty was committed. Michael Adams hit the ball knocking it loose then he grabbed the mask with the same hand. 1:33 of the video shows it. As far as the possession rule if they called the fumble I do not know
Love you guys, but who gives a fuck. It was like 15 years ago.
The Panthers get the #1 pick in a trade with the Bears.
Thanks Goldie
@DH13 posted:Elways 2 SB wins certainly plays a large role in how his career is seen. But before those two wins he was famous for his 4Q comebacks. I didn't realize those other stat nuggets about him.
The comeback wins stat I always took with a grain of salt since you have to fall behind to comeback. What about the guy that leads wire to wire?
It will be interesting to see who the Panthers have targeted at #1 overall. Gotta be one the QBs I'd imagine. Bryce Young?
@Packmeister posted:I don't get it...what's wrong with what he said?
Because the quote should have applied to a trade with Denver last season, if in fact a deal was made and Murphy nixed it.
@Tavis Smiley posted:Love you guys, but who gives a fuck. It was like 15 years ago.
That was my point. It's over and nobody but a Packer fans cares. That why I linked the Chandler kick to show it works both ways.
Murphy confirmed that GB is hoping a deal gets done prior to the start of the new year, which is March 15th.
A few things...
I think Murphy confirmed they want it "resolved" before FA.
For his comment about things working out the way they want.
The easy assumption is he's a dumb fuck and should shut his yap. I mean because, why not, look at him.
The less difficult possibility to see is he meant the trade compensation. If that doesn't work out, Rodgers is back.
The WMM comment was in the context of they gave AR/Jets permission to talk about a trade, if that's what AR wants.
Rodgers to give speech. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport...-jets-trade-29427370
@packerboi posted:We should have a countdown here and celebrate once it happens. In the meantime..
Maybe we can just give him a LOA due to illness. We're sick of him!
@SteveLuke posted:No issues, folks can make up whatever "playoff" record they want to enhance their "the playoff failures are all Rodge's fault" narrative. I just prefer to look at the fact.
And I concede that excluding Rodge's 4-0 2010 playoff run from his overall playoff records makes a lot of sense for those who hold the QB, and only the QB, responsible for the 7-9 playoff record since then.
I mean we all know the beloved team President, the shrewd GMs, the esteemed Defensive Coordinators, and the incomparable Special Teams Coordinators are in no way responsible for the ZERO Super Bowl appearances over the past 12 seasons, right?
The playoff record is really the fault of the supine GB media, right?
Not that there's any information or insight in these, but interesting to see what the inner circle guys say while we wait for 12 to figure out his decision.
