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@PackerHawk posted:

I don't think that's right. Everything I've seen shows guys with voided years as free agents. Kevin King for example. I think he had two voided years on his one year deal but he's a free agent later this month.

Speaking of King, per Ken Ingillis, it actually saves GB 1 mil on the cap to bring Kevin King back vs releasing him.

So do not be surprised to see King back. Thinking in the most "glass is half full" optimism as you can, King does not shy from tackling and could be a decent ST's veteran. Maybe a poor mans Jarrett Bush.

And if he's mainly regulated to ST's, maybe he can last more then 8 games.

Sigh, ya, I am probably dreaming...           

Hand size for 32 NFL starting QBs, from smallest to largest

Taysom Hill, New Orleans Saints: 8Âū inches
Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: 9
Ryan Tannehill, Tennessee Titans: 9
Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: 9
Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders: 9⅛
Justin Fields, Chicago Bears: 9⅛
Baker Mayfield, Cleveland Browns: 9ž
Teddy Bridgewater, Denver Broncos: 9ž
Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: 9ž
Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers: 9ž
Taylor Heinicke, Washington Commanders: 9ž
Sam Darnold, Carolina Panthers: 9⅜
Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 9⅜
Zach Wilson, New York Jets: 9Â―
Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: 9Â―
Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons: 9Â―
Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: 9Â―
Davis Mills, Houston Texans: 9Â―
Mac Jones, New England Patriots: 9Âū
Daniel Jones, New York Giants: 9Âū
Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: 9Âū
Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings: 9⅞
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers: 9⅞
Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: 10
Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts: 10
Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: 10
Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: 10
Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: 10
Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: 10
Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: 10⅛
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers: 10⅛
Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks: 10ž

Notable backups

Drew Lock, Denver Broncos: 9 inches
Trey Lance, San Francisco 49ers: 9⅛
Mason Rudolph, Pittsburgh Steelers: 9⅛
Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers: 10
Tyrod Taylor, Houston Texans: 10
Gardner Minshew, Philadelphia Eagles: 10⅛
Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers: 10Â―

Some calling him Aaron Favre and that sounds about right. Maximize compensation and move on.

@Pakrz posted:

Best case scenario for GB is to trade Rodgers for multiple draft picks and move on.  

The only way I'd bring him back is if he committed to 2-3 more years.  

Agree, but I'd demand 3 years minimum. If they are going to go "all-in" and extend him and others to do so, then push the reset out as far as possible to maximize the return on the extended deals. Of course, that assumes the key players continue at a high level/stay healthy, but that's an unknown every season.

@michiganjoe posted:

Some calling him Aaron Favre and that sounds about right. Maximize compensation and move on.

Agreed completely.  Send that MFer packing, get some picks and restock.

For the love of God Packers, just move on. It’s been a very exhausting, tiring act with KAaron. The never ending ego strokes required to kiss his ass daily to beg him to come back makes the FO appear like they are in an abusive relationship they just can’t quit. Life will go on after Rodgers. Just like it did with Brett.

Get the best package of picks you can for him. Reload and be done with this shit

I am sensing that many of us are taking this personally. It’s just Football and entertainment. I am a Fan. I still love and enjoy the Packers but it’s not real news. People are dying in a real war. Football is a nice distraction but It’s only entertainment. Rodgers is a person. I don’t know him. He plays football and is good at it. He says and does things that I like and some that I don’t. I try to not get sucked up in tabloid crap.

I am sensing that many of us are taking this personally. It’s just Football and entertainment. I am a Fan. I still love and enjoy the Packers but it’s not real news. People are dying in a real war. Football is a nice distraction but It’s only entertainment. Rodgers is a person. I don’t know him. He plays football and is good at it. He says and does things that I like and some that I don’t. I try to not get sucked up in tabloid crap.

Personally?  Not at all...  For me it's about commodity.  12 has value and lots of it. He's also near the end of his career.  It's pretty clear GB isn't winning the championship WITH him...  Couple that with potential cap issues in the future, the smart move is to trade 12 now while he still has value.  Get the draft picks, restock, fix the cap and build a strong team moving forward.  

The fact that 12 is a douchebag has nothing to do with my opinion on the matter.

@Pakrz posted:

Personally?  Not at all...  For me it's about commodity.  12 has value and lots of it. He's also near the end of his career.  It's pretty clear GB isn't winning the championship WITH him...  Couple that with potential cap issues in the future, the smart move is to trade 12 now while he still has value.  Get the draft picks, restock, fix the cap and build a strong team moving forward.  

The fact that 12 is a douchebag has nothing to do with my opinion on the matter.

There are four outcomes to this ranked int his order in terms of winning a Super Bowl eventually. Options 1 and 2 both have are mostly overall positive. Option 3 is a push. Option 4 is a disaster.

1. The Packers keep Rodgers for the next two years. If he's healthy, they almost are certain to make the playoffs and have as good a chance as anyone in the NFC to make a Super Bowl.

2. The Packers trade Rodgers for a haul (4 high draft picks and a couple of good players). They struggle at the QB position for the next 2 seasons, but are set up to be at least a playoff team once they develop Love into a competent QB or otherwise get a league average QB. They don't crater.

3. Rodgers comes back for one year and then leaves in free agency in 2023. The Packers get one more shot, but then will tank in 2023.

4. Rodgers retires. They next two years are cap hell without any realistic chance of winning or setting up for the future (aside from a chance for a top 5 pick for winning 3-5 games).

@H5 posted:

Agree, but I'd demand 3 years minimum. If they are going to go "all-in" and extend him and others to do so, then push the reset out as far as possible to maximize the return on the extended deals. Of course, that assumes the key players continue at a high level/stay healthy, but that's an unknown every season.

Andrew Brandt had a good take on this - Rodgers can opt out next year and be an unrestricted free agent in 2023.  Unsure if he could be tagged with the opt out but with his 2022 cap hit, the 2023 tag would cost like $55m in 2023 so that's unlikely.  Which begs the question.....why would Rodgers sign long-term now when he can be an unrestricted free agent next year?  That leaves his options open to go to a new team of his choosing without that team sacrificing assets, or come back to Green Bay at a higher price tag (UFAs just get more than when they extend, just ask Kirk Cousins).  Plus, Rodgers would be center of the world if he was a UFA which he kind of likes.

If he does come back, he'll just add voidable years and still be a UFA in 2023.  So, probably just time to trade him.  It's hard to win a Super Bowl.  It's even harder with a QB who has one foot out the door, no matter how talented that QB is.

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Of course Tuesday. So McAfee can have Rodgers on his show and get those clicks.



@packerboi posted:

Of course Tuesday. So McAfee can have Rodgers on his show and get those clicks.



What a fucking drama queen, trade that miserable ass already

@Goalline posted:

Indians also look alike? 😂😂😂 Just fucking with ya, big man.

My daughter often gets confused for an Indian, sometimes by INDIANS!😅

Friend of mine from college had a Vietnamese/French mother and black/Hawaiian father. We used to call him "Benetton." He quit school because he was discovered on vacation in LA by a modeling agent who said he was "the most perfect ethnically ambiguous man I've ever seen."

Made a ton of money in print ads...he could pass for any number of ethnicities.

Not sure he could pull off Sicilian though...

@packerboi posted:

For the love of God Packers, just move on. It’s been a very exhausting, tiring act with KAaron. The never ending ego strokes required to kiss his ass daily to beg him to come back makes the FO appear like they are in an abusive relationship they just can’t quit.

If AR maneuvers for a trade, he's flipping off Packers fan.

I think the FO has played this quite well.

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