@Fedya posted:They don't just ignore you?
I wish!
@ammo posted:Why do people keep saying this? If Rodgers goes the FA route don't the Packers at least get a comp pick??? It wouldn't be a 1st or probably even a 2nd, but it would at least be a 3rd. I don't care how good Rodgwers plays in 2022, who would give up more than a 3rd for a 40 year old QB? I only see visions of John Hadl.
There's no such thing as a 1st or 2nd round comp pick.
@MichiganPacker posted:I disagree at some level. If he plays 2-3 more years and they get to a Super Bowl but lose in a well-played game where the other team has superstar players than just made plays to win the game, that would be disappointing but not terrible.
I see it just like the trade for Stafford: coming up just short isn't good enough.
Brandt asks why would Rodgers give up the opt out with the new deal?
I ask, why would the Packers extend him with that still there?
I think the contract offer persuaded AR to give up the opt-out, or it was pushed out a season to where he committed for 2 years with 1 or 2 optional/void.
You don’t think Denver would have given GB the same trade assets for Rodgers? I guess it depends.
If this “extension” ends up basically being a 1 year deal with voidable years then yeah, I agree. Maybe they get a 1 and 2 for him as he’d be a one year rental.
But if this truly is an extension that will keep him in one location for the next 3-4 years (regardless of salary amount) I will agree to disagree.
Yes, Wilson is younger but he’s not as good a QB and oh by the way Rodgers already knows the Hackett approach on offense. The other factor is Denver is in the process of selling the team. If you think Wilson is more marketable than Rodgers I really doubt it. He will put butts in the seats and sell a lot of jerseys.
The Packers may have gotten more.
FA compensation is not complicated, fellas.
Aaron Rodgers has yet to actually sign his contract. If Brady can renege on his decision then so can Rodgers.
@PackerPatrick posted:Aaron Rodgers has yet to actually sign his contract. If Brady can renege on his decision then so can Rodgers.
As much as Rodgers is a "complicated fella", I do feel like he's a man of his word. Almost too literally in fact.
@PackerPatrick posted:Aaron Rodgers has yet to actually sign his contract. If Brady can renege on his decision then so can Rodgers.
If Rodgers does renege, he's completely screwed himself in terms of optimizing his chances for a ring this year. Denver moved on and everyone else is now negotiating to sign free agents. If he doesn't redo his contract, the Packers will have to let some other guys go.
@MichiganPacker posted:If Rodgers does renege, he's completely screwed himself in terms of optimizing his chances for a ring this year. Denver moved on and everyone else is now negotiating to sign free agents. If he doesn't redo his contract, the Packers will have to let some other guys go.
Yet if Adams does not remain (his price may be outrageous) and the Packers cannot meet his contract demands then retirement may come in to play. It was not so much as a choice for a ring but it was between staying and retiring. Hence the delay in signing.
Aaron Rodger gets $150.6M guaranteed on his deal. Rodgers will earn $74.5M in the first new year and $62M average through second new year. https://t.co/9rOyWnTx7R
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 15, 2022
three years per Rap. What does that mean for cap calculations? 75 million this year. Wow
Still processing, but initial math says Aaron Rodgers' deal saves Green Bay about $18 million on the 2022 salary cap.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 15, 2022
Reminder: There is no cap magic, so this mean big numbers are pushed into the future and would hit if/when Rodgers retires. https://t.co/GBlYxn3eds
Reports are this is “year to year” deal so if true we may have to deal with this shit all over again?
All in better mean at least a trip to the SB next year.
Aaron Rodgers' cap numbers the next three years for the #Packers:
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 15, 2022
2022: $28.5 million (down from $46.7 million)
2023: $31.6 million (up from $7.7 million on a previously voidable year)
2024: $40.7 million
Aaron Rodgers was on the books for ~$27 million this season. That got bumped up to $42 million. He gets $59.5 million next season.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 15, 2022
So the added $15 million in 2002 plus the $59.5 million in 2023 is how @RapSheet comes up with $74.5 million in the "first new year." Big number. https://t.co/5LFJoTg6vJ
Re Rodgers contract, still waiting to see if the reported "out" that he negotiated last year -- for after 2022 -- remains in the contract.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) March 15, 2022
If it's still in there, it's a one-year deal.
If it's not in there, a massive win for the Packers, at any number.
@Tschmack posted:Reports are this is “year to year” deal so if true we may have to deal with this shit all over again?
All in better mean at least a trip to the SB next year.
No. The Packers have AR and he's also set in 2023. It's the 3rd and 4th year, if Rodgers continues to play, that the Packers will likely re-do those last 2 years.
So apparently this year and next, he's here and there should be no Favre impressions.
@Tschmack posted:Reports are this is “year to year” deal so if true we may have to deal with this shit all over again?
Basically Shefty just reported that.
"Categorically false" when they reported these contract numbers.
Not so much, KAaron..
Along with the incredible throws and daring escapes, one of Aaron Rodgers’ greatest skills is getting casuals to fall for his “the media is lying about me” bit while they continue to be right over and over about stuff he says they’re getting wrong.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) March 15, 2022
He’s gaslighting you.
So come 2024 they either have to renegotiate and push $$$ down the road again or suck it up and take the big hit like the Saints are this year.
Next two years are locked in.
Appears to be a two-year window to get it done. Brilliant move with a SB win; horrible mistake without one.
When Aaron Rodgers see Jordan Love at the Packers facility pic.twitter.com/kgR7AUeQZ5
— Josiah Johnson (@KingJosiah54) March 8, 2022
4 year extension.
2022, + 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026
Everything I've read it is essentially a 3 year deal with ~ $75mm dead cap in year 4 (2025) if he retires.
This deal and some of the others done/redone over the past few weeks looks like a 2-3 window for a Owl.
He, Rodgers, needs to lead the Packers to a Championship this season.
Also a pretty clear admission from the organization that their evaluation of Love was incorrect.
I still think it's more about where they saw Rodgers at that time - but that's also a miss.
Feeling the same way..
And highly doubt the softball GB media will call him out on this either.
Having said that, yes, he deserves the money and let's go out and win the damn SB.
I’ve said this a million times: I’m totally fine with it being about the money. But don’t bullshit about how it’s not about the money; just sign your massive new deal and keep it moving.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) March 15, 2022
There’s wisdom in silence.
There is a big difference in getting paid $50M per year and getting $50M per year of "new money". If these numbers thrown around are not new money speak then Rodgers won't get the title of highest paid QB.
— Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap 💰 (@KenIngalls) March 15, 2022
We shall see how it turns out.
Looks like this is a club friendly extension afterall...
@Goldie posted:So sorry, is this a “well shit” to the good, or a “well shit” to the horrible??
It’s just well shit. I still think the best move for GB was trading 12 but that ship has sailed. If GB wins a SB with 12 it will all be worth it though. The odds of that are quite slim though based on post season performance.
So I’m neither excited nor upset. I’m just… well shit.
@michiganjoe posted:Also a pretty clear admission from the organization that their evaluation of Love was incorrect.
So the Packers "organization" was wrong when it assumed Rodgers' play was waning at the end of 2019 (and when he still had 4 years left on his contract) and it decided to spend 1st and 4th round picks on QB Jordan Love in the 2020 draft.
And the Packer "organization's" evaluation of QB Jordan Love, the player who was selected with those 2020 1st and 4th round picks, was wrong.
Some might be so unkind as to point out that the "organization's" apparent love affair with and trade for DeShone Kizer was incorrect.
Really disloyal fans might even note the strong rumors about the "organization" being enamored with Drew Lock is further evidence of an apparent inability to detect talent at the QB position.
Moving forward, any Packer fan bitching about old Rodge's play, salary, attitude, etc. will be reminded each and every time that old Rodge is precisely who the "organization" has repeatedly tied its fortunes to because he is the safest bet to continue all those glorious NFC North title runs.
We do what we do and that is, and has been, go as far as old Rodge will take us - that is the Packer way.
@SteveLuke posted:So the Packers "organization" was wrong when it assumed Rodgers' play was waning at the end of 2019 (and when he still had 4 years left on his contract) and it decided to spend 1st and 4th round picks on QB Jordan Love in the 2020 draft.
Love was always a long-term project and I don't believe that was a driving factor with the pick.
Bottom line is the QB position is and has always been the most difficult one to evaluate and the odds of hitting on one where Love was picked were always very small.
@SteveLuke posted:So the Packers "organization" was wrong when it assumed Rodgers' play was waning at the end of 2019 (and when he still had 4 years left on his contract) and it decided to spend 1st and 4th round picks on QB Jordan Love in the 2020 draft.
And the Packer "organization's" evaluation of QB Jordan Love, the player who was selected with those 2020 1st and 4th round picks, was wrong.
Again, many who will argue this point like to forget it's entirely possible that Rodgers elevated his play precisely because of the pick of Jordan Love.
It completely fits Rodgers M.O. Going back to his college days anyone who he felt bruised his fragile ego he was hell bent on proving wrong.
So with no threat of a 1st round pick in his rear view mirror and Rodgers continuing to believe he's the smartest guy in the room, it's at least plausible that Rodgers does not play at an MVP level not to mention ignoring MLF's direction on play calling if Love isn't here.
And as others have said, this may not really be about Jordan Love "sucking". It's likely much more about not wanting to walk away from a back-to-back MVP and a guy who clearly gives you the best chance to win the SB in the next 2 years.