Two benefits of living in Cowboys country:
When the Queens/Bills game went to overtime last week, the local station stopped televising that game and went to the Packers/Cowboys kickoff.
Last Sunday, the local CBS affiliate played the entire Minny beat down…all 60 minutes. It was glorious!
That is too cool, bd!
Almost surprising since the networks and NFL operate under some really archaic broadcasting 'rules', but I'm glad to see a local affiliate having the choice to do that.
Not only do they have that stupid horn, they stole the "skol" chant from the Iceland soccer team in the Euros six years ago. Just after that, the Vikes start using the chant. Can't even be original...
The Queens are currently now last in the 32-team NFL in total defense and are giving up 403.7 yards per game.
Gotta think that having the worst defense in the NFL is not a promising omen for the upcoming purple playoff run.
@SteveLuke posted:The Queens are currently now last in the 32-team NFL in total defense and are giving up 403.7 yards per game.
Gotta think that having the worst defense in the NFL is a promising omen for the upcoming purple playoff choke.
Fixed!
Ed Donatell was as uninspiring a hire as Joe Barry was.
@SteveLuke posted:The Queens are currently now last in the 32-team NFL in total defense and are giving up 403.7 yards per game.
Gotta think that having the worst defense in the NFL is not a promising omen for the upcoming purple playoff run.
They have to play almost perfectly on offense to win. No turnovers, no sacks, no 15 yard penalties.
Spermheads are 10-3 yet have a point differential of -1. A lot of smoke and mirrors with some close/luck wins and 3 blowout losses. Eagles, 49ers, Cowboys will all smoke them in the playoffs.
From the piece:
Late in the first half and trailing by seven points, the Vikings faced first-and-goal from the Lions 3. O'Connell called for running back Dalvin Cook to take a handoff and make a jump pass to tight end Johnny Mundt.
Really a bizarre call in that situation.
@michiganjoe posted:From the piece:
Late in the first half and trailing by seven points, the Vikings faced first-and-goal from the Lions 3. O'Connell called for running back Dalvin Cook to take a handoff and make a jump pass to tight end Johnny Mundt.
Really a bizarre call in that situation.
Another example of a coach trying to prove he's smarter than everybody else.
@michiganjoe posted:Ed Donatell was as uninspiring a hire as Joe Barry was.
I wasn’t exactly doing backflips over Emmitt Thomas, Bob Sanders, Bob Slowik. Were you?
@Packiderm posted:Another example of a coach trying to prove he's smarter than everybody else.
But had it worked he would have been the genius first year head coach who thinks outside the box.
@bdplant posted:But had it worked he would have been the genius first year head coach who thinks outside the box.
And using "metrics".
The Vikings are in serious trouble.
There’s almost no chance the Vikings can surpass the Eagles given they are 2 back + head to head loss. Of all the teams in the playoff chase no one needs that first round bye more than Minnesota.
I remember how much of a "genius " Nagy was his first year. Worked out well!
@michiganjoe posted:From the piece:
Late in the first half and trailing by seven points, the Vikings faced first-and-goal from the Lions 3. O'Connell called for running back Dalvin Cook to take a handoff and make a jump pass to tight end Johnny Mundt.
Really a bizarre call in that situation.
Didn’t see the play, it sounds like. The same play the Titans successfully ran against the Packers.
Yep, except you are giving it to a RB that has trouble holding onto the ball at times.
@Tschmack posted:The Vikings are in serious trouble.
There’s almost no chance the Vikings can surpass the Eagles given they are 2 back + head to head loss. Of all the teams in the playoff chase no one needs that first round bye more than Minnesota.
I really don't think it matters whether they get the bye or not. They're not going to beat PHI and most likely couldn't beat SF unless SF starts falling apart before the playoffs. Same goes for facing DAL. The best MIN can hope for is a RD1 win vs a WC team if they get seeded that way. That's their ceiling this year.
I agree. Vikes are Paper Tigers. Their D is atrocious.
The Fighting Saturdays at Minny on Saturday…..serendipity?
Singularity.
Packer fans calling a defense atrocious is like calling a kettle cold or something like that!
Maybe Pettine can help out with their Defense....
@YooperPackfan posted:I wasn’t exactly doing backflips over Emmitt Thomas, Bob Sanders, Bob Slowik. Were you?
Ouch. How long has it been since we've had a stud defensive coordinator? Fritz?
@Harry Manback posted:Ouch. How long has it been since we've had a stud defensive coordinator? Fritz?
We all loved Fritz, but his defensive line was Reggie White, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, and Gilbert Brown. In other words, the best defensive lineman in NFL history, another guy with 113 career sacks (Jones), one of the best interior pass rushers in football at the time (Dotson), and a premier run stuffer. It is without question a top 10 DL in NFL history.
His LBs weren't at that level, but he had one of the best guys to cover a TE ever (Simmons), one of the fastest LBs in the league (Brian Williams), and a solid MLB (Koonce).
He had a HOF safety (Butler) paired with a free safety with 57 career interceptions along with three good corners (pre-injury Newsome, Evans, and Tyrone Williams).
Shurmur had some bottom 10 defenses at previous stops. He knew enough not to screw up the mid 90s Packers defense, but that side of the ball was loaded.
Not only that....'96 Packer defense gets over-shadowed by the offense and Favre.
When people talk "defense" everyone brings up the Ravens of 2000 or the Bears of '85...maybe the Steel Curtain of the 70's
Nobody thinks of '96 Packers except us and they were the first team to rank #1 in both Offense and Defense to win it all
@MichiganPacker posted:We all loved Fritz, but his defensive line was Reggie White, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, and Gilbert Brown. In other words, the best defensive lineman in NFL history, another guy with 113 career sacks (Jones), one of the best interior pass rushers in football at the time (Dotson), and a premier run stuffer. It is without question a top 10 DL in NFL history.
His LBs weren't at that level, but he had one of the best guys to cover a TE ever (Simmons), one of the fastest LBs in the league (Brian Williams), and a solid MLB (Koonce).
He had a HOF safety (Butler) paired with a free safety with 57 career interceptions along with three good corners (pre-injury Newsome, Evans, and Tyrone Williams).
Shurmur had some bottom 10 defenses at previous stops. He knew enough not to screw up the mid 90s Packers defense, but that side of the ball was loaded.
You realize the coaching was a big part of that success in that he played to their strengths . Give that defense to Barry and they would be a middling to fair defense.
@Goalline posted:You realize the coaching was a big part of that success in that he played to their strengths . Give that defense to Barry and they would be a middling to fair defense.
Here's all the rankings of every defense Shurmur ever coordinated (from footballreference.com). A very mixed bag.
I'm not sure even Joe Barry could reduce Reggie's effectiveness, but you can't rule it out.
Nine top 10 defenses and two bottom ten (yards) in 21 years. Yes, no matter how good the coaching you have to have players ... look at Belichick in Cleveland and the last three years in NE.
@MichiganPacker posted:Here's all the rankings of every defense Shurmur ever coordinated (from footballreference.com). A very mixed bag.
I'm not sure even Joe Barry could reduce Reggie's effectiveness, but you can't rule it out.
He coached that 1991 Phoenix Cardinal D to 27th? That's a hell of an accomplishment. That D was brutal. Totally devoid in talent. Barry would have coached that team to the 345th position. Yes, below every D1 college program.
Reggie? Barry would have moved him to corner to patrol the secondary in his special soft zone coverage schemes.
22nd not 27th ... you have to look at the "Defense" column
@MichiganPacker posted:I'm not sure even Joe Barry could reduce Reggie's effectiveness, but you can't rule it out.
You can't picture Reggie in the flat covering the running back as an outlet?
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:You can't picture Reggie in the flat covering the running back as an outlet?
Too manish in his coverage. Stay in your zone, Reggie, stay in your zone.
@Goalline posted:
13 seconds gone to waste. Thanks, Obama!
I had a girlfriend back in the day that would say basically the same thing. Never understood the context.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:You can't picture Reggie in the flat covering the running back as an outlet?
He would just throw the guy at the QB's feet!
