Tagged With "Central Michigan"
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Re: Positives and negatives
Perhaps those who call for firing MM can identify the candidate who will replace him. No, it won't be Cowher, Gruden, or Dungy...they aren't leaving the broadcast booth. Harbaugh?? Not leaving Michigan, his alma mater, 2 years in (unless he wins a national championship this year). So who is the wonder coach to be brought in?
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Re: Playoffs
If they win out, they probably need one other thing to happen to get in. They were at #7 last week and Texas AM lost, so they should bump up to #6. If they win out that means that both OSU and Michigan will have lost, so the only other teams currently ranked above them are Alabama, Clemson, Washington, and Louisville. If all those teams win out, they would be out of the playoff. If Alabama, Clemson, and Washington lose once, they still might stay in front of a two loss Wisconsin team. There...
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I disagree- I think the Badgers can win out and get in the playoffs, and it just depends on who they beat in the B1G title game. If its an undefeated Michigan team, I think they're in. There's no way to ignore what they've done. Wins over (what would then be) 4 top 10 teams in 6 contests against top 10 teams would garner a lot of support. But if its OSU then that's not as good. Then Washington and Louisville are in play. But I think Washington loses before then. To me the real threat is...
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Re: Playoffs
But being a conference champ is supposed to mean more. And Ohio State can not be that if they beat Michigan and Penn State wins out.
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Speight reportedly will be out for the remainder of the season with a broken collarbone, although he could potentially return for the team's bowl game, according to MGoBlog.com. Mark Snyder of the Detroit Free Press later confirmed the report. However, that contradicts what head coach Jim Harbaugh said Monday, when he called Speight a game-time decision for Saturday's game against Indiana, per Snyder. "It's going to depend on how he feels," Harbaugh said. "Could be a [game-time decision]. We...
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Re: Playoffs
Exactly, Cavetoad! Penn State, Michigan, or O$U. It doesn't matter to me. The Badgers have no say who will win the East now. Any of those 3 teams will be tough. Let's get there first.
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Fans talk. Players play. Everything is automatically contingent on them winning out. But I'm of the mind that the Badgers will not be final 4 even if they win the B1G Championship if they don't get a revenge win. It has to be one of the two- Michigan or OSU. If its Penn State, there is going to be a perception that OSU or Michigan is still better.
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Re: Playoffs
First things first. Let's win the next 2. I can't see them losing to Purdue, but Minnesota is going to be tough. If Bucky wins 2 the fact that the Michigan QB is out complicates this even more. That makes it more likely that UM will lose to OSU and put Penn State in the Big 10 title game. Best case scenario is that OSU beats UM and then MSU shocks Penn State (which is not impossible, but unlikely). Then Bucky gets OSU and a "revenge" win and both Penn State and MSU will have more or as many...
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Re: Playoffs
The more I think about it and hear pundit's blathering, the more I think this is the case. Item 1: Beat Purdue this weekend. As noted, it's really out of our control. Obviously nobody was impressed by the huge win over IL. We need to keep getting huge wins and dominating defensive play even with all the injuries. Now with Meeechigan loosing their QB, it's going to make this harder for us as far as the polls go. Fact is, we have to win the B1G. No way about it and we can't control the rest.
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This weeks rankings just came out: 1. Bama 2. O$U 3. Michigan 4. Clemson 5 Washington 6. Bucky 7. PSU 8 Oklahoma 9. Colorado 10. Oklahoma St. So it kind of shakes out like this I guess. OSU or Michigan will have 2 losses after their game but will the committee drop down either of them if the game is close? I kind of wonder if they will? Bama has Auburn but it is at Bama so I don't expect an upset Clemson has a so so South Carolina team Washington has the apple cup with Wash St. If Bucky...
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Hey, I'm with ya Cave. I'm just trying to guess what the committee will look at when/if it comes down to Alabama, O$U, Clemson, Washington, Wisconsin, and even Michigan. That's all. As was mentioned earlier, Bucky is not as "sexy" to the national media like some other schools (at this time anyway). Maybe that will change after the B1G Championship.
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I think Ohio State is in no matter what. I hate that team but 4 wins against top 10 teams is nothing to sneeze at. Where it could get interesting if it's Penn State that wins the BT championship game and Clemson and Washington don't lose but Penn State beat Ohio State so I think they are also in and in that scenario Washington is probably out. The Wisconsin resume doesn't look as strong now as LSU and Michigan State and Nebraska aren't as good as their rankings were when they played them and...
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Re: Playoffs
As much as I hate seeing Michigan win anything, I really wanted them to beat OSU so that the Badgers had a shot at redemption and this hand ringing would all be academic. Beat Michigan and in the playoff. Michigan is probably the best team especially with a healthy QB, but that is not how the cookie crumbled.
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Michigan really had their way with the UW OL and unlike Ohio State the Badgers couldn't run the ball as well. I actually think UW would have a better chance of beating the Bucks than UM. Either scenario wouldn't be very likely. Penn State is probably the best draw of the three. However, UW playing and beating a Michigan or Ohio State in the BT championship game would have made UW a lock for the final four. Now they need help IMO as Ohio State is in for sure I think?
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I don't see Wisconsin if they win the game as a shoe in without help meaning a loss by Washington This sounds like it should be true. The problem is that the most obviously best teams are not playing in the Championship game. That does not mean that the winner (especially the Badgers) should not be included should they win, but by losing both of those games, they left the door open. It looks better on paper if the people in the playoff are all zero or one loss teams. Michigan maybe should be...
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Pretty sure Washington beat Stanford and they are ranked 17 this week. Utah probably should be ranked and that's a quality win. Colorado is a top 10 team and if they beat them I think it's going to be hard for the committee to keep them out instead of a 2 loss UW team. The Iowa win is looking better now (they are ranked this week) but LSU and Nebraska wins don't look nearly as good. The Michigan State win now is meaningless. Beating Penn State would be their best win of the year and I think...
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Re: Playoffs
I think Ohio State is a lock, leaving two spots. Is it down to Clemson, Washington, and Wisconsin? What about Michigan? I think their two losses are too late in the season to give them any chance.
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I do not think so. Washington plays in a down conference and has no signature wins. The Badgers beat LSU, who was the only team to compete with 'Bama. And while the MSU win is no longer a factor, beating Nebraska and Iowa on the road, and taking OSU to overtime and Michigan to the brink is better than anything Washington has done. To then complete it with a win over Penn State to be Conference champion in the toughest conference in football this year clinches it. There will be 2 B1G teams in...
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I don't get this Wisconsin would lose to Michigan stuff. If Speight throws 2 int's and fumbles once like he just did...
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This is what kind of gets me. There is now a mentality in things I have been hearing and reading that now apparently they also want a "better game". So is it the whole body of work or is it who would give a better game? It seems to shift around constantly if they are talking about a blue blood program. And no one will say it but I guarantee you that they want as many blue bloods in the playoff as they possibly can and will use any excuse in the book to make it happen. Think about if for a...
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I also have to think Michigan is still in the discussion regardless of the BT championship game especially if a Clemson or Washington loses again. UM might have 2 losses, but they own head to head comparisons by beating UW and throttling Penn State. That's 2 top 10 wins not including the Colorado win that looks pretty good right now.
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I'm not sure there is truly a path for Bucky to make the playoffs anymore. If they beat PSU and Clemson AND Washington both lose then you're talking about Michigan moving back into the playoffs and I just don't think the committee will put 3 B1G teams in a 4 team playoff...especially when the Pac12 winner (in this scenario Colorado) is also a top 10 team with 2 losses. If Oklahoma (also 2 losses) won convincingly over OK St., becoming the Big 12 champ, then I believe they would also be in...
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Re: Playoffs
Michigan does have a pretty strong case. They have a better case than Washington does. You gotta play good teams, and teams that don't should be punished for it. The top of the B1G has done that. OSU played Oklahoma, Michigan played Colorado, Wisconsin played LSU... the only team that didn't schedule a quality non-conference opponent is Penn State. Their rise to the B1G championship game is really quite flukey. Really that's what the conversation should be about- not about if Wisconsin/Penn...
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Computer Strength of schedule rankings as of today. OSU 4 Alabama 10 Michigan 11 Clemson 21 Wisconsin 25 Penn State 28 Colorado 42 Oklahoma 54 Washington 69 Those bottom three just don't deserve equal rating when in discussion with the top six. Washington's strength of schedule ranks 69 out of 128 in the country. C'mon man!
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Good point. I don't know so I looked at a few of them. Colley Matrix , Sagarin and Congrove OSU 4, 15, 3 Average 7.33 Alabama 10, 7, 6 Ave 7.66 Wisconsin 25, 20, 4 Ave 16.33 Penn St 28, 39, 15 Ave 27.33 Colorado 42, 23, 17 Ave 27.33 Michigan 11, 33, 41 Ave 28.33 Oklahoma 54, 18, 29 Ave 33.66 Clemson 21, 47, 47 Ave 38.33 Washington 69, 60, 43 Ave 57.33 My point remains: Washington hasn't been tested anywhere near what the other top teams have. And when they were, they lost by two scores at...
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Re: Playoffs
I think the committee factors in multiple criteria, but at the end of the day they pick who they believe are the best 4 teams in the country. I agree that the B1G winner SHOULD go, along with the SEC and PAC12 winners as those teams have gone through a gauntlet of inter-conference play AND won a championship outright. The Big 12 needs a championship game to legitimize their champion. If you want to compare quality wins: -Michigan has the best argument with 4 wins vs. Top 25 teams with 3 of...
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If you're just looking at numbers next to their team names, sure. But who have these teams played? What are their strength of schedules? You will see that WSU got beat by E. Washington and doesn't have a single good win on their record- I don't even know how they're ranked. They fattened up on the weak underlings of the conference and lost every game against a team that didn't suck. Utah has losses to Cal and Oregon (both really bad teams) in addition to losses to Washington and Colorado.
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Re: Playoffs
The B1G is a tougher gauntlet for sure. If things were being decided now I think Wisconsin has a better case than Washington, but if Washington pounds Colorado (a top 10 team) and Wisconsin does not win convincingly, which they haven't always done this year, then I think the committee sides with Washington. B1G doesn't have much representation on the committee besides Alvarez. I'm sure he will make his case, but I'm not sure it will be enough. Ultimately that's what it comes down to, we can...
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Re: Playoffs
I heard what might be the most logical argument so far on the Big Ten contenders, but it's not necessarily good for Wisconsin. If you were to rank the top 4 teams in the Big Ten (forget West v East) right now UW is 3rd. Even with a win v Penn State I'm not sure they leapfrog Michigan. Why? They've already beaten 3 top 10 teams including both UW and Penn State. The other factor is Michigan is just a better team and more equipped to handle an Alabama or Clemson or even Ohio State in the...
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Re: Playoffs
Everybody seems to forget That Bucky went to Iowa and beat them while Michigan lost at Iowa. That should count for something when considering Badgers vs. Michigan for a playoff spot.
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But Michigan beat Wisconsin head to head. That means something more if you are comparing two teams with the same W/L record. Wisconsin has had a great year and hope they beat Penn State to be in the playoff discussion. If they don't make it in that would be a bummer but would not be a surprise either. The two close losses to Ohio State and Michigan are still losses. Win one of those two and they in for sure.
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I have to agree. Best case scenario was Michigan winning and Bucky winning the title game. Now even if Bucky wins, they are still going be be considered a lesser 2 win team. And, TBH, Michigan did beat both the B1G champs regardless. My argument would be that Bucky did not lose at Iowa like Michigan did... but head to head should count too. I would have loved a Michigan/Bucky title game. It would have been epic. But, it's not what is.... I can see the national arguments for what it should be...
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What would be awesome is if Clemson and Washington both lost. Talk about chaos. You could then make a case that both Michigan and Wisconsin are in - along with Ohio State.
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When you start getting in to the comparisons of common opponents though it gets murky and not really that helpful. Michigan dominated Penn St., OSU lost to Penn St., but it doesn't matter because OSU won the head to head with UMich. Penn St. also beat Iowa, who beat Michigan. On the other hand, North Dakota St. also beat Iowa, who beat Michigan. Then you throw Pitt into the mix who beat both Penn St. AND Clemson, but lost to Miami who lost to Florida St., who got beat by Louisville, who lost...
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I usually don't watch all of ESPN's playoff coverage but I did last night. They had a show before the actual rankings coming out with some random ESPN tools (redundant I know) talking about the playoffs. And I am starting to wonder what their criteria is for putting teams in. One of the things they discussed was if they should put teams in there if they don't think they match up well. And I will give you ONE guess which team they were showing on the screen when they said that. Yep Wisconsin.
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I agree on Michigan. They have a stronger case than Wisconsin to be in before Washington. Plus they have a team that (I think) can match up well with any of the top teams. Defensively, the Badgers are there and can play with anyone. Offensively? They only scored 7 against Michigan and not sure they score at all against Bama. That's a problem.
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PS. Great thread. When all is said and done, even with a Bucky win, I don't think we get in---and I can't complain. 2 losses is 2 losses. Michigan and Ohio St. were better than us this year. Period.
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Don't know if this is true BUT if Wash beats #8 Colorado they will have a better SOS rating than Michigan. Heard this in my car this AM on a Colorado sports station. If true to me this meas Wash is a lock over anyone for #4
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Re: Playoffs
It'd be a really bad precedent to put OSU and Michigan in and leave out the real Big 10 champ. For that reason, I think Michigan is done. And I actually don't like OSU being in - if you can't win your own conference, you don't deserve a chance to play for the national title. Not that anyone cares, but they should get rid of the Big 12, sending Texas and TCU to the Pac 12, West Virginia and Kansas to the ACC, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St to the SEC. Iowa St, Kansas St, Texas Tech, and Baylor...
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A 12 team tournament would be the way to go to make the conference championships mean something, but the problem is there are 5 Power conferences instead of 4. You could award the top 4 rated POwer Conference champions an automatic bye, and then have the 5th go into an 8 team First Round playoff to see which four teams play the conference champs. I agree that this year will expose the fact that the conference championship is not that important. It's very likely that Penn State/Bucky winner...
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I've been reading some things the last couple days that say Michigan will likely be the odd man out. The winner of Wisconsin/Penn St. will likely get the 4th playoff spot if either Clemson or Washington lose, sending UMich to the Rose Bowl to face the Pac12 championship loser. There was also talk that if Clemson or Washington struggle with their championship opponent and Wisconsin or Penn St. win convincingly, that the top 10 could reshuffle with the B1G winner leapfrogging a couple teams.
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board
Brian Kelly is much like MM....very stubborn, overly loyal to terrible assistant coaches, can't commit to the run game, and is not able to adjust during a game. Just watch tape of the game they played in near hurricane conditions a few weeks ago at North Carolina State (a game that should have never been played) and explain why Kelly was compelled to stick to a shotgun formation, empty backfield and continue to throw the ball. Then he threw the center under the bus after the game for some...
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Re: 2016 (Team 96) WK14 Seahags @ GB GDT
Chili you nailed my assessment of Wilson. I can do without some of his commentary but there is no question he is clutch. Just when you think they are dead and buried he makes some magical throws and plays. Think that heave against Michigan State in the BT championship game years ago. Down and out and his play basically wins it. Not so much yesterday. He was awful. Part of that is due to the Seattle OL (mediocre) but he was off. I also think Rollins and Randall made a difference. That's the...
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Re: 2016 (Team 96) WK14 Seahags @ GB GDT
In fairness, I think Chili was actually mocking my previous post much earlier in the thread praising the greatness of Wilson. It deserved to be somewhat mocked after yesterday.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
As much as Fournette is intriguing I worry a bit about his recent injury history. but then again I kind of wonder how "hurt" the guy was the season before he leaves? I think for a top part of the draft you have to hit on this pick. I don't follow college football enough to know who to pick but I think in no particular order they should go LB, DE, CB, WR, and RB. I don't think there is a TE in college who rates a ranking that high but maybe they could get Butt from Michigan in the top end of...
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Re: Texan's Week
Michigan should just give the U.P. to Wisconsin already. They're all Packer fans anyway.
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Re: Texan's Week
They were for generations including when Mooch was on the GB staff. When Mariucci went on to coach the Lions, a lot of the younger UP crowd jumped on the Lions' bandwagon. Been gone too long from the area to know the current status...
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Re: Nit laden Loins vs. Bucky - Big Ten Championship GDT
The loser of this game is projected to go the Cotton Bowl to play Western Michigan. Talk about a bowl game with no upside. Win and you get no credit for beating a MAC team. Lose and you're a laughing stock.
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Re: Let's Talk Cowboys (Divisional Playoff Game 1/15/17)
Go read the obit for Rashaan Salaam http://www.usatoday.com/story/...nner-death/95739900/ Excerpt: Perhaps the worst thing people can say about Salaam is that he struggled with marijuana abuse in his 20s. It was no secret, because he gave an interview about it to ESPN in 1999. He described being depressed and told ESPN then that it became a problem for him after injuries forced him off the football field. "I wasn't going to practice or anything like that, so I pretty much spent my time...