Tagged With "Mock Draft"
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Re: Positives and negatives
Positives: We have a very talented team, we have a HOF QB (that is in a slump), good young talent at WR with Ty Montgomery, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Jordy Nelson (for another year or so) and Trevor Davis. One of the best offensive lines in the league. There is a question at TE, hopefully Jarred Cook can get healthy but not much after him. Rodgers can catch the ball but blocks worse than I do. Eddie Lacy when healthy if a credible threat a RB and Rip is improving at FB. On Defense we have...
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Re: Positives and negatives
If I remember correctly I would say half the board **** their pants over hiring the OC from one of the worst offenses in the NFL. Translation: shiny, pretty new ponies usually are a product of their system, not their individual coaching "genius". Seriously, did anyone really think Philbin would make a great coach? Point being TT actually did a damn solid job in picking MM. I don't know what the reality is of Peyton vs MM but both went on a pretty similar path and had some success. While MM's...
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Re: Positives and negatives
Positives As I almost always do-I taped the game, even though I didn't know the outcome, it is a quicker, less painful alternative to live action Montgomery is turning into a hell of a player The offensive comeback showed that they are still alive and kicking Better draft position and no doubt a new D-Coordinator for 2017 The whole league other than the Pats seems pretty average. Negatives That was a 1970s style loss...we received two unforced gifts and still took a beating......not good...
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Re: Playoffs
Announcers mentioned Alabama has 6 first round draft picks playing that will be in the NFL next year. I think the way to beat them is the same way you beat Bucky (although much tougher obviously). Don't give up defensive or special teams touchdowns and make the QB beat you passing from the pocket. The RBs don't get hit on about half the carries until 5-10 yards downfield.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg
TT & MM, the men made by AR. They'd both be long gone had AR not fallen in the draft.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg
They'd be long gone if this team was privately owned.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
The Good: Passing offense came to life after miserable first three series. Here's a thought - start the game thinking you're down three scores. The Bad: Special teams continue to be awful. Pretty amazing when you consider the positional breakdown of this roster. The Ugly: 1) You have a GM who's entire philosophy is to draft, develop, and resign his own for good deals. He's failing on all three of those. Meanwhile, 31 other GMs have figured out that you can also trade and use free agents to...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
The Good? The Packers may very well be drafting in the top 5-7 in 2017 after going 4-12 or 5-11. The Ugly? After choosing that high draft choice, it's equally likely it'll be Ted Thompson, Mike McCarthy and Dom Capers high fiving one another after they make the pick.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
The Good. 1. Cook showed how much the offense can benefit when you have a TE that is a receiving threat. They really haven't had that since Finley. 2. Rodgers missed a few, but it was clear that Cousins was also having problems with balls thrown in the flat because of the wind. A couple of those moved several feet when thrown in that direction. Other than that, Rodgers played pretty well. The OL can't run block and can't really protect, so Rodgers is what's keeping them somewhat respectable.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
The problem is that they are more than 1 player away from being a top flight contender again. They are about 4 players away and that's if those players are Ezekiel Elliott, Richard Sherman, Joe Thomas, and a healthy JJ Watt.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
After 10 years with Rodgers and 1 Super Bowl, do we still think the draft and develop philosophy (with almost no free agency) is the best long term philosophy?
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Agree, this team is far from one player away. Which is why it continues to be so damn frustrating Ted is so obsessed with the draft and completing his roster with UDFA's and almost never considers free agency. The one thing we know about Ted's "tree" of exec's that have since left him...Reggie McKenzie, John Dorsey, and Schneider is that these guys will use and sign veteran free agents to fill their rosters. Ted simply refuses to. And considering he's missed on key players in his last 3...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Yes but with more flexibility in FA. The build through the draft strategy is sound when you stop holding onto "development" projects like Bradford and Janis. But when those picks bottom out, yes, the team needs to find some flexibility with strategic FA pickups. But the base approach should absolutely to build through the draft. Especially in the salary cap era.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Exactly. Saying the philosophy failed because of the results is like saying democracy doesn't work because you don't like the outcome of an election. (For analogy purposes only - please no politics.) As others have mentioned, TT coming up essentially empty on the last three drafts and making some questionable personnel moves along the way brought this on. Keeping Pep, letting Hayward walk, making the league's 12th best kicker it's 3rd highest paid and the timing of the Sitton move were all...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
(I originally posted this at the end of the game thread, but I think it fits better here This team clearly needs a rebuild, and since their window of opportunity with a franchise QB in place is closing fast, I am not in total favor of the patient approach through the draft. If TT is not willing to plug some gaps via free agency, dump him. To create some cap room, I'd let the following walk: Lacy (can't trust him to be available and stay in shape); Peppers (not much left - probably less next...
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
I'm torn on this. When the Packers were having success, nobody cared that Thompson stayed behind the scenes. Everyone thought he was a football genius being able to put a competitive team on the field thru his draft and develop scheme. I distinctly remember the whole "In Ted We Trust" and "Next Man Up". Now that the team is struggling, fans want to hear what he has to say about the lack of talent and his failing philosophies. I understand where you're coming from
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
I wish none of them gave press conferences or made commercials.....I wish they could put a product on the field that resembled their former selves instead of the Washington Generals. For Allahs sake they can't draft, coach, block or freaking tackle. Cleveland, a franchise that is trying to lose looks better than this team. i feel better now. Peace.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
I agree with the draft and develop philosophy and have been a big TT fan historically but now, we're getting key injuries every year that basically take us out of contention and it's frustrating to see. Additionally, I think the leadership necessary to propel a team over the top is just not there with Rodgers and McC. Do you guys think there's a chance they can win the division with 10-6 or 9-7? Would be cool to see them pull together and scrap out a playoff berth.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Only if you hit about 3 home runs in a row. They got a HOF QB with the 23rd pick, a guy who played at a HOF level for several years with the 26th pick (CM3), and a HOF DB who came to Green Bay on a discount because everyone else thought he was washed up (Woodson). That's 3 HOF-level players at 3 of the 4 most important positions (QB, edge rusher, CB) without having a top 5 pick. That coupled with having 2 of your other top 3 CBs being UDFA that played like Pro Bowlers on small contracts...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Even if TT struck gold in 2017 and found the 2.0 versions of say Jordy Nelson, Nick Collins, JerMichael Finley, etc all of those guys took 3-4 years to become those marquee players. This year, it appears finally Adams is developing into the WR many hoped for. But we're sitting here mid-way through season 3 to see that. We're still waiting for HHCD to "break out", has yet to happen and he's also in season 3. Same with Datone Jones. Same with Nick Perry. Rookie 1st round pick Kenny Clark is...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
I do think this division could be won at 9-7 or even 8-8. The Vikings are floundering a bit and their OL is a disaster and the Lions? well you just never know they are the Lions. I for one never ever blame injuries but this team is just absolutely devastated right now. On offense Cook has missed almost the whole year, the OL is banged up, they had to start a WR at RB, Phat Eddie has been gone for what 4-5 weeks now? Shields has missed the whole season, Starks missed quite a few games, Jordy...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
This is the weirdest logic, someone else said this in the game thread. Why would a fan ever want their team to lose? I don't care what it means in terms of draft position or personnel changes, win the fukking games. Period.
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
Whether he talks or not is meaningless....I'll say it again, meaningless. He needs to scout better, draft better, sign better players, nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
Don't care whether Ted talks to the media or not. He didn't give them anything when he was hitting on drafts, and he hasn't given them anything while he has been missing on drafts. I do hope that the Packer brass (Board of Directors, Murphy, etc...) take a close look at how Ted has performed recently. Why has the draft success dropped off ? Is it the loss of John Dorsey, JohnShnieder, Reggie McKenzie, etc... ? Why have they drafted so many players from the PAC 12 lately ? They haven't...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
It's like wanting your loved one who is a drug addict to hit rock bottom. It sucks watching it but you know it needs to happen for them to get better, Drink up, Mike.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
Don't need to draft all our needs....I have a feeling free agency will be big in GB next spring. Hope it works
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
The Packer 2016 Draft Shopping List: 1) A remake of the TE position. (3 picks) 2) Durable RBs who can make people miss. (2 picks) 3) A WR that combines both speed and quickness (1 pick) 4) Another OL who can replace Barclay (1 pick) 5) A couple CBs who combine speed with size and don't get injured every 4.2368 tackles. (2 picks) 6) A guy whose every dream is about decking every NFL QB on game day - and has the size, speed, talent, and will to make it happen. (1 pick) That is 10 draft picks.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
Get the most dynamic WR, TE or RB in the draft. I think that's Fournette, Dalvin Cook or Mike Williams. I'd also be happy with Jabril Peppers - the comparison to Charles Woodson are completely ridiculous, but he would be a fun player to have in the hands of a capable DC. I'd like to see at least 2 RBs drafted (a bigger one and a smaller, quicker third down back), an interior OL (watching Barclay is painful), a DB, a WR with some size and a TE with some speed. The entire draft should have an...
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
Draft a basketball player who has never played football.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
This is such a hateful thread. I hope they draft Tebow.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Sartori, good call from my previous post. I would be in favor of Wolf being the new GM, but mainly because I know who he is and I respected what his dad did. I don't know anything about the rest of the front office other than Ball. GD, I'm not saying I'll enjoy them losing, but mabye this team needs the advantage of drafting in the top 10. It's no guarantee they'd draft a superstar, but it seems like it's more likely than limping into the playoffs and drafting at #24ish. It's kinda like...
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
I hope they draft Tae Bo.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
I thought the consensus is TT would never draft a RB in the 1st round? I thought the Packers did a good job adding team speed on defense last year, primarily LB. I hate to say it, but we need to do the same at CB this year. Offensively, the added speed at WR came at the expense of smerts, experience, and/or skill. It's too early to make a call on Davis or Allison, but if we draft another fast WR, it can't be another 'project'.
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
If you're not drafting at the top of the first round, you're not getting elite talent and your team will be relatively worse. Draft and develop is a concept to avoid taking players with major flaws to fill out your roster but it cannot make your team dominant. Beginning with the 1976 draft 46 first round draft choices have made the HOF. That compares with 26 other players from all other rounds (AND free agents) combined. What's more, 38 of those first rounders were chosen in the top half of...
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
You are correct but when you find yourself in a very nice situation like that, you use other resources like a team in the Pacific Northwest and a team in the Northeast does.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
I hate to say it, but they have to draft BPA. This team needs a significant talent infusion, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and it's not going to be a one year process. It's likely the last year for Shields (10 million), Peppers (9 million), Lacy (1 million), Starks (3 million), Datone Jones (million) and Lang (6 million) and they'll have to make big money decisions about Perry (5 million) and Cook (3 million). That's 39 million of cap money, most of which will become...
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
THIS (Best post of the week)
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
Piss off, CU. Next you will tell me I can't see the draft board the day before the draft.
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Re: Viking Clap vs Our Man Dak game thread
They, on paper anyway, had a fair amount of depth at tackle coming in, but Kalil and Smith got hurt, Loadholdt never made it back and Clemmings continues to look extremely raw as well as being flip-flopped from side-to-side repeatedly. They've also had injuries inside, where they have little depth. This is just the Football Gods reminding them they're the Vikings. They'll re-sign Kalil, they don't have much choice, pray for fewer injuries and draft a couple of interior guys.
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Re: Rodger wants Thursday Night Playoffs
The Green Bay Packers drafted WR Trevor Davis 163rd overall (5th round) in the 2016 NFL draft. The KC Chiefs drafted WR Tyreek Hill 165th overall (5th round) in the 2016 NFL draft.
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Re: Rodger wants Thursday Night Playoffs
In college, Tyreek Hill's pregnant girlfriend confronted him about rumors he'd been hitting on underaged girls, so he choked her and punched her in the stomach. I would take an eternity of 5-11 over ever having to justify cheering for that.
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Re: Rodger wants Thursday Night Playoffs
I agree with you, but we have Letroy Guion. http://archive.jsonline.com/sp...657z1-336695811.html
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Re: 2016 (Team 96) WK14 Seahags @ GB GDT
Yes, if you're saying it was wrong to draft Abbrederis.
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Re: Are you "feeling it" NOW? +/- Seahawks WIN!
I have to admit, I didn't see this coming. At 4-6 I was all about losing out, getting rid of all coaches/GM, and hoping for a great draft. I'm not sure they will pull it off, but I'm all in after this. I just wonder where this type of play was during the skins/colts/titans stretch. (I'm sure someone can pull up that previous post if need be) I stand corrected and I guess it just goes to show that Dr's don't know as much as they think. On a side note, I was at the Schitcago game at Lambeau...
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Re: Are you "feeling it" NOW? +/- Seahawks WIN!
Gebbins. Glad to have you back on the bandwagon Doc!