Plus compensatory picks are tradeable next year. He's no longer a starter on this roster, but he's good enough to have earned that contract. Win for him, win for us.
Yeah I hate to see him go but saw this coming in 2015 training camp. With Rollins, Randall and Gunter playing so well, no way TT was paying Hayward. While Hayward and Hyde had their moments, I don't think Dom liked having two CBs that could only play inside - it limited his defensive options. I thought he'd get more but like slot WRs, the NFL doesn't value inside guys like they do outside guys.
YATittle posted:That smells like a fourth rounder. Congrats Casey.
Most likely a fifth rounder but an outside chance it could be a sixth. This year the first compensatory pick in round five went to Arizona for the loss of Dan Williams and the average per year value of that contract was 6.25 million. The last of the round five compensatory picks went to San Diego for the loss of Eddie Royal and the average per year value of that contract was 5 million. The average per year value of Heyward's contract is reported to be 5.1 million which would put him in round five. With cap increases the round cutoffs will likely be higher next year which could knock the pick down to a sixth.
Shields concussion was pretty nasty. I could see that flaring up again in the future. I'd be surprised if Ted didn't pick up a corner in the draft. You can never have enough good corners.
Pretty good site to use in predicting comp picks, like others have said, looks like a 5
ChilliJon posted:Shields concussion was pretty nasty. I could see that flaring up again in the future. I'd be surprised if Ted didn't pick up a corner in the draft. You can never have enough good corners.
I agree...a DB likely in this draft...don't rule out a speedy safety...someone like Tyvis Powell of Ohio State?
Ted letting a second round pick walk away after his rookie deal tells me he's got a lot of trust in Whitt's opinion of who's on the roster.
Plus his own, Chilli.
With age comes wisdom. Once upon a time, I would flip out when the Packers didn't become bigger players in free agency. Well, I look at a lot of these teams spending ungodly amounts of money in free agency the last few days, and there is one common thread: most of the teams haven't been good for a long time. There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but if you draft well, which I think most of us would agree the Packers, in the aggregate, do, you have to trust the coaches who see our players on a daily basis to know what those men are truly capable of. Inside linebacker still appears to be a glaring need, and I'd do a jig if Reggie Ragland fell to us. With each team on the board ahead of us that signs a free agent inside linebacker, I do a little more stretching in preparation of that eventuality. But we also need to remember that one of the guys that was counted on to start at the position last year, Sam Barrington, missed the entire season with an ankle injury. I don't know how well he's coming along, but you'd better believe the trainers and coaches do. Knowledge of his health, and the likelihood of his playing the full 2016 season at 100%, are bits of information that Ted Thompson throws into the hopper between his ears. He also has feedback from the coaches on the maturation of Jake Ryan, a guy who I thought came on really strong towards the end of last season. The very fact that we know Clay Matthews is a starter at outside linebacker next year should clue us in, somewhat, as to the confidence that our staff has on Barrington's health, and Ryan's progress. If season two is where a lot of the eventually great players make a big step, then we could see a leap forward from the former Wolverine.
I'd love to win the Super Bowl every single season. But since that's improbable, I'm happy as can be making the playoffs the last seven years in a row. If a couple freak plays go our way, we're back in at least one other Super Bowl, and knocking on the door of another. Let's keep that level of success, one the vast majority of teams in the NFL would kill to have, in mind.
Ted Thompson is rarely sexy with his moves. When we see players that might seem like a logical fit in Green Bay, know that Thompson has considered them. If they don't end up here, there is a reason why. Either the move would be cost prohibitive, the player didn't fit in with the overall mentality that Coach McCarthy has built in the locker room, or there is something else we're not privy to. All the hand-wringing I see online has become comical. "We're wasting the best years of Aaron Rodgers' career!" Really? Winning in the NFL is hard. Winning the Super Bowl is even harder. There are 32 teams competing for a finite number of resources, and only one of those teams will finish the year hoisting the Lombardi. We are in a position to seriously compete for the prize with Saint Vince's name on it every year....every year...because the man at the top knows what he's doing. Stuff happens. Sometimes key players have catastrophic injuries that severely hampers a team's chances to win the ultimate prize. You can only do so much to prepare for this eventuality. And Ted Thompson does as much as is humanly possible to keep this team in the fight.
Trust Ted.
KonKrete posted:Plus compensatory picks are tradeable next year.
I had forgotten about that.
Maybe we won't get a comp pick at all.
TT might pickup someone in FA 
Not a fan of Barrington, and worried about Ryan's lack of coverage skills as exploited in the first Cardinal game. I'm thinking Ragland will be there in the first, my question is will he be Ted's pick. Or could he get him in the second like he did with Eddie Lacey. Just wondering.
lambeausouth posted:Ted Thompson is rarely sexy with his moves.
Wait till you see him after he's had 2 or 3 Bud Light on the rocks and then tell me his moves aren't sexy.
In my opinion this is the classic year where Packer fans are going to go "they picked a WR in the first round?" And then come next season we will be going wow he did hit on the draft pick. I would love to see Ragland but would he be TT's pick? or maybe he has his sights set on another ILB if he goes that direction. Honestly I wouldn't be shocked at any direction they draft in. The only thing that I would say if off the table is drafting a QB highly.
As Lambeausouth said the Packers rarely do what is sexy and make a big splash and I think we really need to trust that front office and the organization to do what's right. if you look at the teams in the last decade who have done well the biggest theme is that they draft well and have stability from top to bottom in the organization.
I think signing Cobb and Nelson to extensions was sexy.
I thought AJ Hawks hair was sexy before he cut it.
YATittle posted:Not a fan of Barrington, and worried about Ryan's lack of coverage skills as exploited in the first Cardinal game. I'm thinking Ragland will be there in the first, my question is will he be Ted's pick. Or could he get him in the second like he did with Eddie Lacey. Just wondering.
All the teams that have ILB needs that pick becore the Packers that don't choose him in the first round will all not pass on him in the second, no way no how
Mayock has Ragland as his 4th best ILB. Hard to imagine 3 ILB's going in RD1 much less 4. Ragland could fall into RD2 but unlikely to our spot. I'm thinking TT goes with a bigg'n in RD1.
Most of the reports out there are saying that Ragland looked terrible during Alabama's pro day. Did some of the stuff that he didn't do at the combine and the results were bad. 13 reps of 225, that would be the second worst number among linebackers at the combine. 3-cone drill was somewhere between 7.5 and 7.55, the worst 3-cone time by a linebacker at the combine was 7.50. It sounded like he was in shape, was 247 at Indianapolis and was 248 at the pro day.
I think Ted will have higher ranked players on his board when the #27 pick comes up.
DH13 posted:I'm thinking TT goes with a bigg'n in RD1.
large bodies in the 1st round are common for Ted. if there's DT or OL there that he wants he'll take them before an ILB... and people will freak out again.
@TomPeliserro: What'd it cost for #Colts to lure backup QB Scott Tolzien away from #Packers? A $500K signing bonus on a 2-year, $3.5 million deal.
Don't think he was lured away, though.
I don't know. Luck's neckbeard can be pretty mesmerizing.
It's possible the Packers could get a 7th round comp pick as compensation for Tolzien, but it's really hard to tell since there were no 7th round compensatory picks awarded for this season.
I'd rather see TT go with a DL or a pass rusher in round 1. I'm not a huge Ragland fan - he seems like more of an old school "plugger" than the athletic ILB teams need today. He has value but I don't like a 2 down ILB in round 1, especially with this year being such a deep DL class. I think you can get a DL that would normally be top 15 pick, at #27.
The tape is there with Ragland to go in round 1...the power, the instincts, the aggressiveness. Keep in mind CJ Mosley ran a 4.63 and only managed 15 reps and 17th overall. Ragland ran a 4.72 at 15 lbs. heavier. He's not timing historically poor or anything. Not every successful ILB burns up the 40 times, the tape is where you really separate LBs.
In his introductory press conference as a member of the New York Jets, running back Matt Forte elaborated on the other teams that were pursuing the eight-year veteran.
Via JoeBucsFan.com, Forte said that Cowboys and Buccaneers had significant interest, and that the Packers and Patriots had minor interest.
In Tampa, the interest in Forte was an obvious hedge against the Bucs failing to keep running back Doug Martin. Once Martin agreed to terms, the Bucs were out of the Forte business.
The Cowboys, Packers, and Patriots made no similar alternative arrangements, which puts each of them in play for help at the position, via free agency or the draft.
BREAKING: B.J. Raji plans to retire from football, per source with knowledge of his plans. #Packers are aware of his decision.
â Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) March 14, 2016
This post was forked into a new topic here: BJ Raji steps away from football
Someone's got to pick up the slack in eating all the China Food Lacey's leaving aside.
Well that's random
Ragland is a second rounder (*Unless someone reaches for him)
*see what I did there
If true, would not really shock me. The question with him all the way back to college was "does he really love football"? How many people would continue to do something they don't love doing if they were financially set for life?
Hmmm I'll have to look more at Ragland. Everything I've read and seen says he's an old school, 2 down ILB. It wasn't based so much on his 40 time, more on scouting reports I've read and the games I watched live.
Are you sure they weren't referring to Big Ben?
I suspect there just wasn't a lot of interest in the league for Raji. He had a good start to 2015 but was way out of gas by the time the season was 1/2 over. Best of luck to him
Raji tells me he's walking away from a "very, very nice deal" from #Packers and interest from multiple playoff teams.
â Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) March 14, 2016
Interesting. I've wondered when the latest fad of early retirements was going to strike Green Bay, but had my money on Abby. If this is true, can't say I blame the guy and wish him the best. Tough to see #13 happening without him.
wow.
Wow, a bit of a shocker. I've always like Raji, he was apart of the biggest play in Packer history, IMO. Good luck to him.
Interesting, now it sounds like a year off and then hope for a Big $$$ contract. Probably doesn't want to play, due to the offers he's received.
With the way the game is now, it wouldn't shock me, to see more and more players retire early. They got dough, for the most part they are smarter with their dough and they have much more information, on what the game does to them physically and mentally.
Well that was actually kind of surprising but in this day and age on the NFL early retirements seem to becoming normal. Best of luck to him though.
Now I am starting to think the TT may be with a big body DL early on and pass on someone like Ragland. But this is TT I am talking about so...
Sounds like RAji isn't ruling out a future return to the NFL. Here's his full statement
http://www.packersnews.com/sto...g-football/81770768/