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Wait, what? Houston is giving Cleveland a second-rounder to take  Osweiller? So that sucks up cap space to hit the floor and they get a second-rounder? That's funny, but a pretty slick deal. 

Okay, Cleveland gives up their 4th for Osweiller and a sixth, and get Houston's second-rounder next year. 

I still like it. 

 

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I mean, Cleveland essentially paid $16 million for a second round pick. Cleveland is actually talking about releasing Brock Osweiller. Just ****ing releasing the guy. They just paid for the draft pick. It's an effing NBA deal. Buying an expiring contract. If they do release him. Is that the worst day a professional QB has ever had? Other than Jay Cutler of course who's had a lifetime of worst days. 

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ChilliJon posted:

I mean, Cleveland essentially paid $16 million for a second round pick. Cleveland is actually talking about releasing Brock Osweiller. Just ****ing releasing the guy. They just paid for the draft pick. It's an effing NBA deal. Buying an expiring contract. If they do release him. Is that the worst day a professional QB has ever had? Other than Jay Cutler of course who's had a lifetime of worst days. 

I don't know.  He's no longer with team that clearly didn't want him. If he's released, he's not forced to play with the worst team in all of sports. He still gets $16M.  And, he's a FA.  

That sounds pretty awesome to me. 

How is it a good deal for the Browns to waste cap space?

Mike Florio: "I've never seen a trade like this in the NFL."

FROM ESPN: 

Cleveland is not committed to keeping Osweiler, 26, and is likely to try to trade him, sources said. If that happens, the deal would turn into a basketball-like trade in which NBA teams routinely trade contracts to get them off their books. That kind of move rarely happens in the NFL.

It's hard to remember another time in the salary-cap era when a team traded a contract to get it off its books. But Houston was so eager to rid itself of Osweiler and turn the page to its next quarterbacking chapter that it is giving Cleveland extra picks to take him and his contract.

The Browns headed into this free-agent signing period with more than $100 million worth of salary-cap space and would struggle to spend it all. Now they can devote some of it to Osweiler's contract and acquiring extra draft picks from Houston.

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With that amount of astronomical cap room, it's a way to use it and get a high draft pick out of it. Per league rules, teams have to use X amount of their cap dollars on players/contracts and there was probably no way the Browns were going to find enough quality players to throw, what, 100m at to fill that requirement?

Still doesn't mean they won't continue their mass suckage, but hey at least they are spending $ in the trenches and getting creative.

ChilliJon posted:

I mean, Cleveland essentially paid $16 million for a second round pick. Cleveland is actually talking about releasing Brock Osweiller. Just ****ing releasing the guy. They just paid for the draft pick. It's an effing NBA deal. Buying an expiring contract. If they do release him. Is that the worst day a professional QB has ever had? Other than Jay Cutler of course who's had a lifetime of worst days. 

It is BRILLIANT! I must be the only one who has been really impressed by what the Brows are doing. Loading up on picks, building through the offensive line. If they make the right picks in the draft, watch out.

"Look, you pay me to get guys on the field"

"On November 22, 2003, the night before an away game in Baltimore, Maryland, trainer Ken Smith gave named Plaintiff Jerry Wunsch an Ambien. The next day, before the game, Coach Holmgren asked Mr. Wunsch if he could play, despite excruciating pain down the whole right side of his body, to which Mr. Wunsch replied β€œI can’t play, Coach. I can’t play today. It’s my first game. I just can’t do it.” Coach Holmgren then called Sam Ramsden, the Seahawks’ trainer, and asked β€œwhat can we do to help Mr. Wunsch play today.” Mr. Ramsden brought the doctors over, who gave him a 750 mg dose of Vicodin and Tylenol-Codeine #3, saying they would help, even though Mr. Wunsch was already taking anti-inflammatories as prescribed by his doctors. He played – feeling high – and after half time, the Medications wore off and he told anyone who would listen that he could not play anymore, but Mr. Ramsden, the head trainer, gave him another 750 mg of Vicodin on the field for the second half, telling Mr. Wunsch, β€œDon’t sue me personally for this.”

But Goodell will sit your ass down for weed and PEDs. 

Logan Ryan=could have been Sam Shields 2.0. His contract with the Titans was hardly outrageous and would have been the same cap hit as what Shields is now had he not concussed himself out of football. Would have instantly become the number 1 CB on the team.

AJ Klein=signed what is in reality a 3 year 15 million dollar deal with the Saints. Would have been an instant upgrade at ILB and he and CMIII would have made for a pretty damn good ILB corps. He was buried in depth behind Luke and Co in Carolina.

The Packers had the cap room to make the same contracts with no problems.

Klein is just a guy. 5th round pick with 4.67 speed that doesn't do anything great. Not enough there to justify putting him ahead of Ryan or Martinez. And certainly not enough to justify a FA deal this early into FA. He started the last 6 games of 2016 when Kuechly went down. Totaled 6 tackles in those 6 games. 

Lets see how interest develops with Zach Brown and Kevin Minter. 

Ryan contract is lower than I thought it would be. But you have to wonder why BB would let him walk for that price while playing pretty well but giving Gilmore $14 million per and (apparently) prepared to let Malcom Butler walk. I still think I would have taken a chance on him for $10 million per though. 

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That might also be indicative of the guys coming into the league now who are younger than in years past. After four years of college, guys are more mature and readier for life than they are after only one or two years of college. Today's younger players means GMs are betting on guys barely out of their teens. You're going to have more misses than hits trying to predict those guys.

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