2018 (or is it 2019?) Free Agency Moves/Trades/Releases

MichiganPacker posted:

Ghost of Lambeau posted:

ChilliJon posted:

Amendola plays for Miami now. Gronk isn’t sure he wants to play football anymore.

Maybe Gronk is taking a page from the Favre off-season play book.  You know - say he doesn't want to play anymore - so the team may as well release him.  Then go to a team of choice and play for 5 more years. 

Gronk already has rings and is likely a future HOFer. It just makes too much sense for Gronk to end up playing in Vegas at some point - he be the toast of the town.

Oh gawd.  The night clubs would sell thier soul to have him show up their after home games.   The day clubs would pay him millions to party there on Mondays after the game. 

It would be glorious and disgusting all at the same time. 

Herschel posted:

Heck, I think there's a good chance BB wanted to dump Brady and move on with Garapolo in 2018 and Brady knew it so he went to Kraft in a preemptive move.

Yeah I think this is probably what happened. Another reason I'm glad we don't have an owner...I guarantee a similar situation would have played out in 2008 with Favre. I think that's also why he convinced McDaniels to stick around, he needs his QB guru to develop another young guy. 

#Packers free agent TE Richard Rodgers is signing a 1-year deal with the #Eagles, source said. He goes to a place that uses the TE as much as anyone to reboot his career. He hopes to recreate the success from 2015, when he had 8 TDs.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 4, 2018

Best of luck to DickRod.

Good guy. Made some plays, but limited in blocking and speed.

Projected coming out as a fifth or sixth rounder and TT spent a third on him. Speaking of bad picks....

Clydesdale with decent hands....yay.

This ain't your father's Packers anymore!

michiganjoe posted:

Projected coming out as a fifth or sixth rounder and TT spent a third on him. Speaking of bad picks....

He obviously had info that DickRod would go higher than the projected 5th or 6th. Just like Quentin Rollins

No issues with Dickrod. Decent numbers in a system that hasn't had a clear idea how to utilize the TE position for close to a decade. 

Been some good TE's in GB since 2007 that haven't come close to putting up stellar numbers. GB hasn't had a TE crack 700 receiving yards in a long time. In his 8 seasons Jimmy Graham failed to reach 700 yards 3 times. 

What I'm trying to say is GB needs to figure this "using the TE" s**t up pretty fast.

michiganjoe posted:

#Packers free agent TE Richard Rodgers is signing a 1-year deal with the #Eagles, source said. He goes to a place that uses the TE as much as anyone to reboot his career. He hopes to recreate the success from 2015, when he had 8 TDs.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 4, 2018

Best of luck to DickRod.

With Rodgers and Janis gone, who is going to catch the hail marys????

When you are way ahead in every game you don't need no stinkin hail marys. 

Cobb.

I was driving my nine year old to soccer practice thirty minutes ago and he told me that the Cowboys had traded Dez to the Giants for OBJ. He didn’t have any details but he pays more attention to NFL news than I do so I had no reason to doubt him. 

I spent the rest of the drive laughing at the Cowboys and explaining to my son how even though that trade made no sense, I wasn’t at all surprised. 

I decided to read up on the trade a few minutes ago.....I guess I should blame myself for considering the nine year old a reliable source for NFL news. Lesson learned. 

I understand BD - I always double check the sports info my 12 y/o boy gives me too before believing.  There's usually a detail or two he fails to provide that changes the whole meaning.   

Herschel posted:

Heck, I think there's a good chance BB wanted to dump Brady and move on with Garapolo in 2018 and Brady knew it so he went to Kraft in a preemptive move.

Disturbing but there is some math there that adds up.  While BB is now considered one of the greatest coaches ever, much of the argument usually includes "but he had Brady".  I can see BB wanting to prove that theory wrong by taking another QB to the SB.

Doubt that OBJ's ego would fit on the same team with Brady's and BB's. Part of the "Patriot way" has been signing guys who want to fit into the team concept, are willing to put aside their personality and conform, and also submerge themselves in football. That isn't the OBJ way.

Especially not a top tier FA that will command monopoly money.

DH13 posted:

Herschel posted:

Heck, I think there's a good chance BB wanted to dump Brady and move on with Garapolo in 2018 and Brady knew it so he went to Kraft in a preemptive move.

Disturbing but there is some math there that adds up.  While BB is now considered one of the greatest coaches ever, much of the argument usually includes "but he had Brady".  I can see BB wanting to prove that theory wrong by taking another QB to the SB.

I don’t think it would be too hard to do either. Look at the world class talent of guys like Cassel. 

DH13 posted:

Herschel posted:

Heck, I think there's a good chance BB wanted to dump Brady and move on with Garapolo in 2018 and Brady knew it so he went to Kraft in a preemptive move.

Disturbing but there is some math there that adds up.  While BB is now considered one of the greatest coaches ever, much of the argument usually includes "but he had Brady".  I can see BB wanting to prove that theory wrong by taking another QB to the SB.

I understand some people making an argument like that. But Brady ain't winning titles without Billy B. He's a great, clutch player but let's get real here.

YATittle posted:

Good guy. Made some plays, but limited in blocking and speed.

Best of luck to him and gratitude for his service. He did his best.

He won’t be missed. 

Forward.

Gute is aggressive in cutting marginal/deadwood players. He doesn't have the loyalty issues that TT/MM have had. I like it, as long as in exchange we improve.  

bdplant posted:

I was driving my nine year old to soccer practice thirty minutes ago and he told me that the Cowboys had traded Dez to the Giants for OBJ. He didn’t have any details but he pays more attention to NFL news than I do so I had no reason to doubt him. 

I spent the rest of the drive laughing at the Cowboys and explaining to my son how even though that trade made no sense, I wasn’t at all surprised. 

I decided to read up on the trade a few minutes ago.....I guess I should blame myself for considering the nine year old a reliable source for NFL news. Lesson learned. 

More reliable than Mort.

That's the crux, isn't it.  We'll see if there is improvement.  There will be more roster turnover by WK01 than any offseason we've seen since 2007.  But we really need to give it more than 1 year to see if it works.  

Roster had gotten stale and I have to wonder if some complacency had set in. What they were doing wasn't working and I welcome the change. Churning the roster has more potential upside than sticking with the status quo.

Super excited because we're getting NEW TAPE on defense & offense.

MM said he's treating this as "Year 1" & even retooling the offensive playbook.

Don't know what will happen, but at least neither will our opponents for a change.

Can't wait to see Rodgers vs. Zimmer's bull$#!t defense.

Churning the roster is great if the new is better than the old.  Otherwise it's 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

This offense is on auto pilot with Rodgers under Center.  I've come to the opinion that Gutitoot should draft a good chunk of offensive talent in the early rounds.  The defense will be predicated on coaching.  The offensive, straight up player talent.  

michiganjoe posted:

Roster had gotten stale and I have to wonder if some complacency had set in. What they were doing wasn't working and I welcome the change. Churning the roster has more potential upside than sticking with the status quo.

Yeah I think the previous regime, because of the team building philosophy, was a little too patient with players. That's not to say they shouldn't have been letting guys play out their rookie contracts, but I think TT would have tendered or resigned guys like Joe Thomas, Rich Rodgers, Jeff Janis, etc. Those may go on to do well with other teams, a scheme change or change of scenery can motivate guys to change, but guys shouldn't ever get complacent. I don't think Janis ever felt any actual heat, same for a lot of our depth players. 

Team still needs another outside WR in the worst way. None of this "rodgers makes the guys better" crap..Allison isn't going to cut it. Neither will any of the others they have..need a stud. Draft Ridley.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Super excited because we're getting NEW TAPE on defense & offense.

MM said he's treating this as "Year 1" & even retooling the offensive playbook.

Don't know what will happen, but at least neither will our opponents for a change.

Can't wait to see Rodgers vs. Zimmer's bull$#!t defense.

I fear that in efforts to "add layers to the offense", MM was getting away from just basic good football. Too much emphasis on "extending the play" and not enough "just take what the defense gives you". 

GreenNgoldBlood posted:

Team still needs another outside WR in the worst way. None of this "rodgers makes the guys better" crap..Allison isn't going to cut it. Neither will any of the others they have..need a stud. Draft Ridley.

Couldn't agree more.  Rodgers was not getting his usual numbers I believe it was the first half or so of the year before last because the receiving talent just wasn't there.

Grave Digger posted:

michiganjoe posted:

Roster had gotten stale and I have to wonder if some complacency had set in. What they were doing wasn't working and I welcome the change. Churning the roster has more potential upside than sticking with the status quo.

Yeah I think the previous regime, because of the team building philosophy, was a little too patient with players. That's not to say they shouldn't have been letting guys play out their rookie contracts, but I think TT would have tendered or resigned guys like Joe Thomas, Rich Rodgers, Jeff Janis, etc. Those may go on to do well with other teams, a scheme change or change of scenery can motivate guys to change, but guys shouldn't ever get complacent. I don't think Janis ever felt any actual heat, same for a lot of our depth players. 

Agree, GD. I think that TT and MM were comfortable with the players they had at times as being "known factors" and were too cautious about letting them go. They were happy with the known and worried about the unknown. You have to have confidence in your own skills at picking talent and in your coaches to move on. The WRs especially. It's like Janis, Geronimo, etc., knew they couldn't crack the Big 3 so they were happy "just to be there." Then when the inevitable injuries came up, they weren't prepared. Adams was right place, right time after Jones, et al, and took advantage to grab his spot, but it says something that no one else stepped up. Rosters should be fluid, whereas GB's seemed set in stone.

BB has a fluid roster philosophy 

Viks have a piss their pants in championship games philosophy. 

I think they call that The Floppy Guppy. 

FBB

phaedrus posted:

GreenNgoldBlood posted:

 Draft Ridley.

Couldn't agree more.  

Just because Ridley is the "best" WR in this draft doesn't mean he'll be any good at all. 

IMO, Ridley sucks. Prove me wrong on an NFL field.

If Gutey wanted a "good WR" he would've kept Nelson or traded for OBJ or Cooks or made sure Allen Robinson signed on the dotted line.

Yeah.....I want AJ Green. Not going to get him. Something tells me in September, the Packers will be ok.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

phaedrus posted:

GreenNgoldBlood posted:

 Draft Ridley.

Couldn't agree more.  

Just because Ridley is the "best" WR in this draft doesn't mean he'll be any good at all. 

IMO, Ridley sucks. Prove me wrong on an NFL field.

If Gutey wanted a "good WR" he would've kept Nelson or traded for OBJ or Cooks or made sure Allen Robinson signed on the dotted line.

Yeah.....I want AJ Green. Not going to get him. Something tells me in September, the Packers will be ok.

Honestly not sure why he didn't get in on the trade for Cooks. A speed guy is exactly what this offense needs and Cooks would have been great. Look, it goes deeper then just getting another good WR(which they do need), it's about keeping #12 happy, especially after releasing Jordy. If he feels they don't have enough weapons and is unhappy....

I want DJ Chark or Michael Gallup. I like both guys a lot and, just as importantly, neither will cost their first rounder. 

Even if the first round goes harshly and Green Bay stays at 14, a first three of Vander Esch, Oliver and Gallup or even Vander Esch, Chark and Meeks would be good by me. Grab, say, Isaac Yiadom, Kalen Ballage, Troy Fumagalli, Michael Joseph and maybe roll the dice on Kylie Fitts and Kentavious Street or Ade Aruna, with a Shaqem Griffin or Leon Jacobs thrown in and the athleticism on defense goes up markedly. I'd rather they roll some late dice on athleticism rather than moribund slugs who really aren't more than the unholy union of chum and stopgaps. 

Herschel posted:

I want DJ Chark or Michael Gallup. I like both guys a lot and, just as importantly, neither will cost their first rounder. 

Even if the first round goes harshly and Green Bay stays at 14, a first three of Vander Esch, Oliver and Gallup or even Vander Esch, Chark and Meeks would be good by me. Grab, say, Isaac Yiadom, Kalen Ballage, Troy Fumagalli, Michael Joseph and maybe roll the dice on Kylie Fitts and Kentavious Street or Ade Aruna, with a Shaqem Griffin or Leon Jacobs thrown in and the athleticism on defense goes up markedly. I'd rather they roll some late dice on athleticism rather than moribund slugs who really aren't more than the unholy union of chum and stopgaps. 

Chark and Gallup are fine with me, as is Courtland Sutton. All I know is they NEED another WR and one fairly early..like 3rd round at the latest.

GreenNgoldBlood posted:

Honestly not sure why he didn't get in on the trade for Cooks. A speed guy is exactly what this offense needs and Cooks would have been great. Look, it goes deeper then just getting another good WR(which they do need), it's about keeping #12 happy, especially after releasing Jordy. If he feels they don't have enough weapons and is unhappy....

Saw this post on the right hand side preview, immediately knew it was you.  New GM, new DC and you're already pissing your pants.  

They let an aging Jordy go, they have two legitimate WR and then some UDFAs, they signed a 31 year old TE who can't block.  Yeah, I'm thinking they'll draft a WR at some point.