AR is going to make the packers pay up - whoa. he's going to get some serious coin...
I personally don't think athletes are worth the kind of money they get paid but I understand that the money is there and they deserve their share.
AR is going to be making about 2 million per game.... per ****ing game.
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If Garoppolo's first-year cash number is, say, $35M, the 49ers -- with $115M in Cap room -- should match Cap and cash, allocate same $35M in Cap as well. Best way to manage large contracts.
Pakrz posted:I personally don't think athletes are worth the kind of money they get paid but I understand that the money is there and they deserve their share.
AR is going to be making about 2 million per game.... per ****ing game.
Why not? You and I go out there in their place you think the owners continue to make billions? The reason they make that money? The players. Wanna see what the players are truly worth? Remove the salary cap.
Besides, we are all worth whatever we can get in this world.
The recent trend at QB seems to be around 5 years, with per year averages going up to between $25M-$27.5M, so the $30M PYA is right around the corner.
FWIW, I think the general trend for guarantees at any position has been increasing as well, and the skill positions are now approaching 50% of contract.
And this is where ARod's numbers will be. Likely a 5-year extension at $150M-$165M, and a guarantee of 55%-60% of contract, and putting his PYA at $30M-$33M.
Goalline posted:Pakrz posted:I personally don't think athletes are worth the kind of money they get paid but I understand that the money is there and they deserve their share.
AR is going to be making about 2 million per game.... per ****ing game.
Why not? You and I go out there in their place you think the owners continue to make billions? The reason they make that money? The players. Wanna see what the players are truly worth? Remove the salary cap.
Besides, we are all worth whatever we can get in this world.
Like I said, I understand that the money is there and the players deserve their share. I guess my point is that I don't think the money SHOULD be there. Billion dollar stadiums, billion dollar TV contracts, $150 tickets, $13 beers.. you can go on and on about how overblown and ridiculous professional sports has gotten with money.
Again, I realize a player is paid for an entire year of conditioning, preparation, camp, etc. But if you break down the proverbial "game check", I don't think anybody is worth 2 million dollars per game to throw a ****ing ball.
Yesterday I overheard a co-worker talking about how to get paid. You get paid when you first get hired. If the company "promises to give you a huge raise in 6 months." Tell them no thanks, you'd prefer your money up front. Unless you can get that in writing in your offer letter.
Unless it's in writing it doesn't exist.
Goalline posted:Besides, we are all worth whatever we can get in this world.
Ain't that the truth! A lot of people B$ their way to their jobs & salary.
True story...Back in the dot bomb days, I knew a person making $135k a year. His job?? Putting blank backup tapes in the backup machine. Sending the full tapes to a storage facility. That's it....that's the extent of his job.
FF a couple years later after bubble bursts, he's looking for a job in tech. Goes to an interview with my friend. My friend needs a good server admin - Windows/Linux, network skills & also need backup skills, including setting up the backup software & maintaining it all end to end. They have a nice conversation. When my friend asks this guy what salary he's looking for, he gives my friend a ballpark of $135k-$150k. My friend chokes on his water & says...."Umm..this job doesn't pay that much." (That was more than my friend was making.) He stated that's what he was making before. This job pays about $90k maximum & he'd be doing 10x the work too.
So yeah...moral of the story is get what you can when you get it. You're worth it.
The ability to rationalize or justify what NFL players make or are actually worth went away when owners started throwing silly money at free agency.
Aaron Rodgers potentially making two million per game looks and sounds positively insane. But looks a little less insane next to companies paying five million for a 30 second commercial during the Super Bowl. The money at play in the NFL is staggering.
On one hand. Jimmy G is getting $75 million guaranteed and heâs thrown 12 TDs in his NFL career. On the other hand. As Andrew Brandt pointed out this am. $75 million guaranteed essentially pays him the same as Joakim Noah. Brandt has long held the position NFL players are actually underpaid as most of the numbers in contracts arenât real dollars.
Interesting conversation though.
We're worth whatever the market bears. NFL is still in a bull market.
Athletes not worth what they're paid? Ya bunch a commies!
If the players weren't getting it the owners would....I can get behind that!
Pakrz posted:Goalline posted:Pakrz posted:I personally don't think athletes are worth the kind of money they get paid but I understand that the money is there and they deserve their share.
AR is going to be making about 2 million per game.... per ****ing game.
Why not? You and I go out there in their place you think the owners continue to make billions? The reason they make that money? The players. Wanna see what the players are truly worth? Remove the salary cap.
Besides, we are all worth whatever we can get in this world.
Like I said, I understand that the money is there and the players deserve their share. I guess my point is that I don't think the money SHOULD be there. Billion dollar stadiums, billion dollar TV contracts, $150 tickets, $13 beers.. you can go on and on about how overblown and ridiculous professional sports has gotten with money.
Again, I realize a player is paid for an entire year of conditioning, preparation, camp, etc. But if you break down the proverbial "game check", I don't think anybody is worth 2 million dollars per game to throw a ****ing ball.
Yeah, I get what you are saying.
If the world were a rational one, based on the workload and the value of that work you, my friend, and Aaron Rodgers would be swapping pay checks and milk would cost the same as what we pay for diamonds and diamonds would be a 2 bucks a gallon. It just doesn't work that way though. There are a whole lot more of you than there are of Aaron Rodgers' in this world. He gets paid, because he is rare.
Garoppolo contract details.
He's rare but he does something millions of people pay money for one way or another.
And if you find the face of Jesus on your toast at the free breakfast at the Best Western and sell it on EBAY for thousands you are totally deserving to have noticed it before jam.
Athletes are a steal. Now Jerruh Jones.......
Goalline posted:Pakrz posted:I personally don't think athletes are worth the kind of money they get paid but I understand that the money is there and they deserve their share.
AR is going to be making about 2 million per game.... per ****ing game.
Why not? You and I go out there in their place you think the owners continue to make billions? The reason they make that money? The players. Wanna see what the players are truly worth? Remove the salary cap.
Besides, we are all worth whatever we can get in this world.
Agreed. But let's also understand that the world is F'd up place. There is a difference between what is and what is right.
If we each had to pay an additional $200 in taxes to go to teachers salaries riots would ensue. $400 on 4 hours at NFL game, F yes I'm in!!
The state can't force you at the point of a gun to go to an NFL game.
It seems it can, at gunpoint, force you to make stupid posts.
I've been here 16 years and haven't made one stupid post. 
Just that one.
Stupid, and hateful.
Boy, if I had a dollar for every stupid Fedya post...
You would be making money in an unusual way
at gunpoint
Hungry5 posted:Boy, if I had a dollar for every stupid Fedya post...
You'd be broke?
Compared to what politicians get from some donors for doing just about nothing except a few votes, athletes are way underpaid.
Fedya posted:The state can't force you at the point of a gun to go to an NFL game.
You're free to renounce your citizenship and jump ship whenever you want.
I have to say, I hate that answer. This country was founded of folks not liking something and doing something about it instead of running to Canada.
Fedya might unleash and unrelenting deluge of banal posts, but that doesn't mean he has to leave.
I mean, if you made him go to Quebec at gunpoint and left him there, we'd be OK with it.
There isn't wifi in Quebec, right? That's one of those dumb Canuck laws I think.
YATittle posted:NumberThree posted:michiganjoe posted:The 49ers and QB Jimmy Garoppolo have agreed to a five-year, $137.5 million contract, source says. The biggest deal in NFL history on a average-per-year basis.
â Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) February 8, 2018Should bring a smile to AR's face.
Considering they are currently in "discussions" I would suspect the Packers are doing everything they can to get him signed before the season starts.
My bet is that AR is waiting for Foles and Cousins to sign their deal, and will want 75+% guaranteed. What's interesting is that he's lost over a full season to collar bones, and then gimped through with that partial calf tear.
I think any other quarterback his age would have a tough time selling that much guaranteed money, but it's gotta be done. According to the wizards at ESPN he's already the front-runner for MVP next year. Given his collar bone wasn't fully healed when he came back last last season, I suspect that game film won't cause any hurdles.
Foles isn't a free agent.
Neither was Jimmy Garoppolo.
The Eagles would be stupid to do a Ted Thompson and not trade their backup quarterback for max value.
Someone will throw a bunch of draft picks at the Eagles for Foles, and in turn will pay him a ton in guaranteed money.
The Eagles' backup QB has value.
The Packers' backup QB has no more trade value than Jeff Janis!
Fedya posted:The Eagles' backup QB has value.
The Packers' backup QB has no more trade value than Jeff Janis!
Actually, I think Janis (who is a free agent anyway) would have much more trade value than Hundley. At least Janis is one of top 5-10 guys in the league at a specialty position. As a gunner, he has 7th round type value. If Hundley was released tomorrow, I'm not sure he's anymore than a 3rd QB on any team.
If the Eagles trade Foles, they better be sure Nate Sudfeld can play a few games. Not sure Wentz will be ready to play right away.
Fedya posted:The Eagles' backup QB has value.
The Packers' backup QB has no more trade value than Jeff Janis!
I think he was talking about Matt Flynn. A lot of fans were steamed TT didn't use some sort of tag to try to get a draft pick out of him before he signed that big contract with the Seahawks.
NumberThree posted:YATittle posted:NumberThree posted:michiganjoe posted:The 49ers and QB Jimmy Garoppolo have agreed to a five-year, $137.5 million contract, source says. The biggest deal in NFL history on a average-per-year basis.
â Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) February 8, 2018Should bring a smile to AR's face.
Considering they are currently in "discussions" I would suspect the Packers are doing everything they can to get him signed before the season starts.
My bet is that AR is waiting for Foles and Cousins to sign their deal, and will want 75+% guaranteed. What's interesting is that he's lost over a full season to collar bones, and then gimped through with that partial calf tear.
I think any other quarterback his age would have a tough time selling that much guaranteed money, but it's gotta be done. According to the wizards at ESPN he's already the front-runner for MVP next year. Given his collar bone wasn't fully healed when he came back last last season, I suspect that game film won't cause any hurdles.
Foles isn't a free agent.
The Eagles would be stupid to do a Ted Thompson and not trade their backup quarterback for max value.
When did Thompson have backup qb of any value that other teams were inquiring about? And Rodgers doesnât count
YooperPackfan posted:When did Thompson have backup qb of any value that other teams were inquiring about? And Rodgers doesnât count
Maybe Matt Flynn? He lit it up a couple of times before the Hags signed him.
Been hearing a lot of (silly, imo) talk radio chat about if the Eagles should go with Foles and trade Wentz. I thought that was ridiculous as Wentz would have been the league MVP before going down.
But, it did get me thinking. If you are Cleveland do you offer your two first rounders to the Eagles for Wentz? Now, if one thinks that is too much, Cleveland could use the #4 and trade down to snag an extra pick(s).
chickenboy posted:YooperPackfan posted:When did Thompson have backup qb of any value that other teams were inquiring about? And Rodgers doesnât countMaybe Matt Flynn? He lit it up a couple of times before the Hags signed him.
I donât recall Thompson ever receiving any trade offers for him
YooperPackfan posted:I donât recall Thompson ever receiving any trade offers for him
I don't either but I was responding to the fact that there was a backup during the TT tenure that perceived to be 'worth a damn.'
YooperPackfan posted:NumberThree posted:YATittle posted:NumberThree posted:michiganjoe posted:The 49ers and QB Jimmy Garoppolo have agreed to a five-year, $137.5 million contract, source says. The biggest deal in NFL history on a average-per-year basis.
â Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) February 8, 2018Should bring a smile to AR's face.
Considering they are currently in "discussions" I would suspect the Packers are doing everything they can to get him signed before the season starts.
My bet is that AR is waiting for Foles and Cousins to sign their deal, and will want 75+% guaranteed. What's interesting is that he's lost over a full season to collar bones, and then gimped through with that partial calf tear.
I think any other quarterback his age would have a tough time selling that much guaranteed money, but it's gotta be done. According to the wizards at ESPN he's already the front-runner for MVP next year. Given his collar bone wasn't fully healed when he came back last last season, I suspect that game film won't cause any hurdles.
Foles isn't a free agent.
The Eagles would be stupid to do a Ted Thompson and not trade their backup quarterback for max value.
When did Thompson have backup qb of any value that other teams were inquiring about? And Rodgers doesnât count
Before Hundley took the field he was very highly touted, by the Packers.
And many Packer fans.
Aren't ALL Packer players highly touted by the fans? I remember when I heard many Packer fans proclaiming Jeffred Abbrejanis (or whatever the hell that guy was) was going to be the next Gordy Nelson.