Pucker factor may be the MVP of this upcoming season.
I'm excited. I don't have a problem with how MM calls the offense but that makes him a glorified OC. That's fine. As long as he and Pettine can work together and Pettine gets the free reign The Wizard did it should be a really fun season.
Pettine gets to make the calls, but Winston Moss has final say.
Brainwashed Boris posted:MM saying - "The QB room is fine!" - that still sticks with me.
Meanwhile Taysom Hill is still a Saint.
Henry & PackLandVA pretty much summed it up. It also explains why MM received a 1 year extension. He is on the hotseat this year, no doubt.
Can't change the past but GunyGooGoo can certainly do something about the future.
Onward.....
Taysom Hill not being on the team was TT's decision, not MM, anyways the Packers were in a tough situation and they weren't going to carry 3 QBs on opening day and they weren't going to cut Hundley.
QB room is fine sticks with me also, obviously it wasn't and it should have been obvious early on when Hundley took over that he wasn't very good. The fact that they stuck with him through the brutal end, not even giving Callahan a chance (and I doubt he would have been much better) just stinks of a coaching staff/front office with blinders on that were willing to go down with the ship rather than admit that they were wrong about Hundley's competency.
I am optimistic about Pettine and the new additions to the D. If they can just be average, even with some of the question marks on offense, I would love to see Rodgers not have to feel like he has to score every time.
The quarterback room is fine. Again, what was he supposed to say? The reporter asked if they were considering signing Kaepernick for Christ's sake. "Why yes, I'd love to sign him, but my boss doesn't want to and has left me with garbage after 12, so we're just going to suck the rest of the year."
So you've undermined your boss, and gotten rid of any confidence Hundley and Callahan may have had, all in one sentence.
Guys.
Now this...this is the way a QB room should be!
Brak posted:The quarterback room is fine. Again, what was he supposed to say? The reporter asked if they were considering signing Kaepernick for Christ's sake. "Why yes, I'd love to sign him, but my boss doesn't want to and has left me with garbage after 12, so we're just going to suck the rest of the year."
So you've undermined your boss, and gotten rid of any confidence Hundley and Callahan may have had, all in one sentence.
Guys.
Agreed, I don't know what the expectation is for him to say. It also sets a bad precedent in the lockerroom for the HC to bash players. McCarthy isn't as stupid as his face looks. Callahan sucked too, what's the point of playing another QB who also sucks, you're getting the same thing. Hundley is just the opposite of a gamer, he probably practices really well and is sharp in the meetings and then sh*t the bed in actual games. Coaches have to use the players their given and find a way to make it work and since he was basically the face of the coaches and FO with TT not ever wanting to talk to reporters, he had to figure out how to make that work too. TT screwed him twice over.
While I was never impressed with “hesitation” Hundley I did understand why MM did not bash him in public. MM is loyal to a fault. My hope is that that support was only for the press and not what he really felt. On the other hand his keeping Dom way past the expiration date was an example of MM hesitating too long to fire Capers.
Problem isn't MM said the QB room was fine; problem is he apparently believed it. Horrible misjudgment of Hundley's abilities that I expect to be remedied this training camp (by way of a cut).
Brak posted:The quarterback room is fine. Again, what was he supposed to say? The reporter asked if they were considering signing Kaepernick for Christ's sake. "Why yes, I'd love to sign him, but my boss doesn't want to and has left me with garbage after 12, so we're just going to suck the rest of the year."
So you've undermined your boss, and gotten rid of any confidence Hundley and Callahan may have had, all in one sentence.
Guys.
I know it was after the Kaeperdinck question but he should've said...
"We continually evaluate every position & look for improvement in every aspect of the team."
Or something like that.....
No, MM, very matter of factly, was pissed off at the fact anyone even QUESTION him as a QB coach & he stated it emphatically!
So I sat back....and was thinking...."Ok, show me what you got MM. You've had this Hundley kid for 3 years....impress me."
It took me all of 3 games to see Hundley never had "it" nor will he ever have "it". Why would they hang onto a guy for 3 friggin years if he never improved? I can't be the only one who noticed this fact.
Anyway, water under the bridge & as long as Rodgers stays healthy & we have a top 15 defense, we should be in the mix again.
To be fair, he didn't get pissed until the second QB question...in a row.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Or something like that.....
No, MM, very matter of factly, was pissed off at the fact anyone even QUESTION him as a QB coach & he stated it emphatically!
So I sat back....and was thinking...."Ok, show me what you got MM. You've had this Hundley kid for 3 years....impress me."
It took me all of 3 games to see Hundley never had "it" nor will he ever have "it". Why would they hang onto a guy for 3 friggin years if he never improved? I can't be the only one who noticed this fact.
Anyway, water under the bridge & as long as Rodgers stays healthy & we have a top 15 defense, we should be in the mix again.
Only the best coaches entertain the media’s question. The ones who condescend or give terse answers are usually not very good.
Music City posted:Only the best coaches entertain the media’s question. The ones who condescend or give terse answers are usually not very good.
Yes, Bill Belichick never condescends or gives a terse answer.
Hell, after watching Hundley in pre-season games many on here thought TT could trade Hundley for a 1st round or at least a 2nd round draft choice rather than lose him in free agency. But when real bullets were flying Hundley ducked into a foxhole. Is that really MM's fault?
In retrospect, I'd have settled for a third round pick.
Rusty posted:I imagine Tramon/House will be getting more snaps up front while the young ones get phased in (especially Jackson, who will probably need a few weeks to get his feet wet).
I see Alexander starting at slot CB. I see King and Williams starting on the outside CB spots and can see House playing behind King, if not getting cut from the team after camp.
https://www.jsonline.com/story...e-pettine/624139002/
Interesting read. No more 10 yard cushions on third-and-eight for receivers?
I'm afraid to get my hopes up. The last time we had any semblance of a defense, (2010) we won it all.
I'll remain in the "prove it to me" category
That was great article. And then I clicked on that naglar chat Link at the bottom. And then he took on some kind of question about HaHa Clinton-Dix. And said that he wasn't exactly terrible last year. What the f*** he was watching is beyond me. He flat-out f****** suck ass.
Brainwashed Boris posted:I'm afraid to get my hopes up.
That's how I'm feeling on the injury front, especially at thin positions like edge rusher and tight end.
Defense-wise, it's all about Clay and Perry staying healthy. If that happens there's every reason for optimism.
YATittle posted:https://www.jsonline.com/story...e-pettine/624139002/
Interesting read. No more 10 yard cushions on third-and-eight for receivers?
The only thing more frustrating than these 10 yard cushions were the easy completions to wide open receivers, after which our two DBs would look at each other like "I thought you had him". Really hope Pettine fixes this defense.
Nice article. Thanks for posting.
ammo posted:Hell, after watching Hundley in pre-season games many on here thought TT could trade Hundley for a 1st round or at least a 2nd round draft choice rather than lose him in free agency. But when real bullets were flying Hundley ducked into a foxhole. Is that really MM's fault?
I’m assuming you’re joking.
Pistol GB posted:Defense-wise, it's all about Clay and Perry staying healthy. If that happens there's every reason for optimism.
I think it's going to be less on them in Pettine's D and more on the CB's. That could be an even scarier thought but hopefully the new kids on the block pan out. They'll get some help from our DL. Capers 34 featured the OLB/EDGE more so and it is no coincidence his D was most successful when that position was on fire (2010 and late 2014).
Henry posted:ammo posted:Hell, after watching Hundley in pre-season games many on here thought TT could trade Hundley for a 1st round or at least a 2nd round draft choice rather than lose him in free agency. But when real bullets were flying Hundley ducked into a foxhole. Is that really MM's fault?
I’m assuming you’re joking.
Hundley was the new Turd Ferguson?
Hundley and Kizer will be a great QB competition if MM let’s his staff decide.
MM needs to keep his past decisions out of who’s the last man standing.
Kizer is either going to be the best thing that pushed Hundley. Or the guy that ended his NFL career.
Pistol GB posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:I'm afraid to get my hopes up.
Defense-wise, it's all about Clay and Perry staying healthy. If that happens there's every reason for optimism.
From today's injury report at the OTA's " OLB Clay Matthews (knee), OLB Nick Perry (ankle)" http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_...gb/green-bay-packers
From slowmo's link:
Absent not due to injuries: S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix...
Atta boy.
Davante with a hamstring already.
DH13 posted:Pistol GB posted:Defense-wise, it's all about Clay and Perry staying healthy. If that happens there's every reason for optimism.
I think it's going to be less on them in Pettine's D and more on the CB's. That could be an even scarier thought but hopefully the new kids on the block pan out. They'll get some help from our DL. Capers 34 featured the OLB/EDGE more so and it is no coincidence his D was most successful when that position was on fire (2010 and late 2014).
Yeah I think there's a lot of pressure that will be put on the CBs, that's why they got 2 of the 3 most instinctive man cover guys in the draft and signed two vets whose strengths are man coverage.
He retired.
“You look at the depth at the outside linebacker position and it’s not that great,” Matthews said. “That’s not a slight to the guys who are behind Nick and myself, but you look around the league, a lot of times they’re rotating in pass rushers. You can look a couple years ago when we had Mike Neal and Julius (Peppers) here, Datone (Jones) as well. We had a pretty good rotation.”
#BelieveInTheWhizburger
"That's not a slight to the guys who are behind Nick and myself...."
Funny, it sounds like a pretty bad slight to me....especially from someone who is earning lots of cake and who misses significant time every year due to injury. Guessing this is the last year in the Packer fold for CMIII.
He's not wrong, but it's sh*tty to throw your teammates under the bus like that. The talent was deficient at so many positions, Gute had to start with the most deficient. OLB has two true starters, CB had 0 true starters. Roster triage, gotta fix what's the most broken first with the money available.
The Whiz will fix all.
its preseason-everyone is gonna be a little chippy- even ar was a little chippy.
Leadership by #52
Lighting a fire under some of these sandbaggers.
Maybe we can trade Brent Hunley for Datone Jones and then sign Mike Neal, I think he's a realtor now, so he's definitely available. Gotta keep #52 happy.
That is one scary, roided out realtor.
Mike Neal: "Yes, I understand that this is the first home you are seeing and that it lacks several of the features you requested, but YOU BETTER BUY IT TODAY"!!!!
House Hunting Husband: "Well, Honey, this is the best house we've seen in this search. Let's just buy it".
