Best place for him.
Increase the likelihood the Raiders draft a QB?
Pakrz posted:There isn’t a single guy in the draft that has proven a thing in the NFL. Dee Ford posted double digit sack totals in 2 of his last 3 seasons (He was injured and only played in 6 games the other year).
I would rather pony up big money for Moseley/safety combo and get your edge rushers in the draft along with a couple of mid tier signings. Moseley is about the safest signing you can get and immediately improves the defense. Clay would be more than fine if he had a supporting cast of Moseley inside and a high pick on the other side.
The Silverstein argument of keeping Perry is growing on me too. If you aren't relying on Matthews and Perry for everything, you could actually get some meaningful downs out of the guy. Perry is an ass kicker against the run and can get home. Perry even mentioned something about not being approached about a contract renegotiation. Offer Matthews a mid-tier contract and see if Perry renegotiates. That takes care of a lot of depth issues as well as having a good rotation.
DH13 posted:Who would we rather have, Thomas or Collins? Can't have both.
Thomas. Collins isn't that good in coverage.
I'd draft a rookie Safety, or two, just so, hopefully, we won't have to revisit the position again in FA or the Draft, any time soon. We would have one of the youngest groups of players in the DB/Secondary in the league and they would be together for a while. We could actually work at getting other positions in future drafts, for a change.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Increase the likelihood the Raiders draft a QB?
I think it does. Or else the Giants panic and trade up to the Jets #3 and take Haskins. Oakland then drafts best defensive player and the Jets still get a very good D guy and more picks.
Only had to give up a 3rd & a 5th.
I think I said , if the Pack traded #30 they would get the Steelers 3rd rounder in return plus Brown.
Pretty good deal for the Raiders. There's very few teams that can handle that circus. Raiders are a circus so they go without saying. Patriots & Packers could handle him. That pretty much it.
Let's see what happens. If the Raiders nail this draft it's 100% because of Mayock. It certainly isn't Gruden.
mrtundra posted:I'd draft a rookie Safety, or two, just so, hopefully, we won't have to revisit the position again in FA or the Draft, any time soon. We would have one of the youngest groups of players in the DB/Secondary in the league and they would be together for a while. We could actually work at getting other positions in future drafts, for a change.
That formula hasn't worked for years now. I don't care if they draft a safety but it better be no earlier than a 3rd.
I’d be ok taking a S in the 2nd. Adderley comes to mind.
i don't give up anything > 3 or 4 for ford, but i would pay up for a g/t and even 2 safeties...honey badger and thomas...just me, we need some attitude on the back end of our d...then draft opens right up.
doesnt seem like any pass rushers are around, so have to home brew them it seems. since safeties are a plenty, just grab em while they are there...there's a saying, strike when the iron is hot, well...go get em.
There was talk on Twitter also about shipping Perry to KC for Ford and some configuration of picks on both sides. KC is switching to 43, which is a better fit for Perry, and he’s under contract for 2 more years. Sounded more like speculation than actual rumor.
It would be a way better fit for Perry. If that softened the cost I'd do that to swap contract year overachievers.
Grave Digger posted:There was talk on Twitter also about shipping Perry to KC for Ford and some configuration of picks on both sides. KC is switching to 43, which is a better fit for Perry, and he’s under contract for 2 more years. Sounded more like speculation than actual rumor.
When does speculation become a rumor or vice versa?
Henry posted:mrtundra posted:I'd draft a rookie Safety, or two, just so, hopefully, we won't have to revisit the position again in FA or the Draft, any time soon. We would have one of the youngest groups of players in the DB/Secondary in the league and they would be together for a while. We could actually work at getting other positions in future drafts, for a change.
That formula hasn't worked for years now. I don't care if they draft a safety but it better be no earlier than a 3rd.
There won't be any Safeties, of note, available after the 2nd round. This is if they do not acquire a Safety in FA. FA changes draft pick plans quite a bit.
How long before Bhawoh Jue’s son is draftable?
Just saw that Ford registered 84 pressures in 2018 while Perry, CM, Fackrell, and Gilbert COMBINED for 87...👎🏼
El-Ka-Bong posted:Increase the likelihood the Raiders draft a QB?
Heck yes.......... Derek Carr = The Kirk "BUST" Cousins of the West
Justin Houston was released today. Is now a FA.
Earlier this offseason, the Packers hired Justin Houston's position coach. That, combined with the team's need for pass-rush boost, makes Green Bay a natural option for Houston. https://t.co/ZxSCC6PSlW
— Jason B. Hirschhorn (@by_JBH) March 10, 2019
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Houston also a team captain type dude. My point is, besides being a productive player, I think he also brings a sense of veteran leadership that GB could use on defense.
Ford (27) is 3 years younger than Houston (30), but Houston should be a little cheaper to sign and won't cost a draft pick. Get it done Gute.
Grave Digger posted:There was talk on Twitter also about shipping Perry to KC for Ford and some configuration of picks on both sides. KC is switching to 43, which is a better fit for Perry, and he’s under contract for 2 more years. Sounded more like speculation than actual rumor.
I’d carry Perry to the airport.
CoPackFan posted:Earlier this offseason, the Packers hired Justin Houston's position coach. That, combined with the team's need for pass-rush boost, makes Green Bay a natural option for Houston. https://t.co/ZxSCC6PSlW
— Jason B. Hirschhorn (@by_JBH) March 10, 2019
Did Houston like his coach?
heyward posted:Grave Digger posted:There was talk on Twitter also about shipping Perry to KC for Ford and some configuration of picks on both sides. KC is switching to 43, which is a better fit for Perry, and he’s under contract for 2 more years. Sounded more like speculation than actual rumor.
I’d carry Perry to the airport.
i will help you. I will make sure we wrap him in bubble wrap he doesn't get hurt and it voids the trade.
Yeah, the Brown trade is cap hades for Pitt this coming year, but after that they automatically free up $21 million from Brown, plus this year is the last big hit for Big Ben at $23 million. They want to extend Ben—maybe—and would make it cap-friendly. But with Brown gone, I could see Pitt letting Ben play out the year, him retiring, and Pitt starting over with an awful lot of cap space. No Brown, Bell getting out, Ben is 37... time to reset.
Houston at a fraction of the price for no draft pick would be so much better than trading a premium pick AND paying Ford a massive new deal. Having Houston mentor a first round pick would be pretty nice.
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Raiders stay in Oakland. Craving Bazillionaires like milwaukee.
Ze'Darius Smith might actually be the best option of who is available at OLB:
Wasn't just sacks for Za'Darius Smith either. Had a better pressure rate than Brandon Graham, Demarcus Lawrence, both Watt brothers, and Myles Garrett. https://t.co/33bBjqXKXv
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) March 11, 2019
Thought this was an interesting take on the twit from eye in the sky:
Tashaun Gipson was an essential piece in Mike Pettine’s scheme in Cleveland. Gipson allowed Pettine to play Single High without disguise because Gipson was able to cover and blitz. The blitzing was used as a run stopping element that transitioned to pressure on pass plays.
It's either Jackson's agent is using GB to play hardball with Philly or GB is looking for a better version of Mo Wilkerson. We have a deep DL, I can't imagine they re-sign Mo if they sign Jackson.
Hearing that former Jags DL Malik Jackson is close to a new deal, with Green Bay and Philly as the primary options.
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 11, 2019
Nothing wrong with extra DL to add to the rotation.
Mo would come at a reasonable price anyway.
But I agree, these agents always use Green Bay to get more money for their players
Looks like Philly got him for $10M over 3 years. Pretty nice deal for Philly, he's still a pretty good interior rusher. On the bright side Wilkerson should only cost $2-3M per year max!
EDIT: Schefter is saying $30M over 3 years. Makes a lot more sense.
Grave Digger posted:It's either Jackson's agent is using GB to play hardball with Philly or GB is looking for a better version of Mo Wilkerson. We have a deep DL, I can't imagine they re-sign Mo if they sign Jackson.
Hearing that former Jags DL Malik Jackson is close to a new deal, with Green Bay and Philly as the primary options.
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 11, 2019
Gutekunst has said multiple times that the Packers want to be in on any FA conversations. Agents will use that as "interest" to increase leverage. But it doesn't mean the Packers are/were serious contenders in the negotiation.
The interest in Jackson is less surprising when you look at this quote from when Pettine was hired:
Remember, #Packers DC Mike Pettine said all these things when he was hired last year. He wants interior rushers. https://t.co/0V2LHcJCAR pic.twitter.com/lNInMKlMOR
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) March 11, 2019
Makes me think GB might have less urgency than some think to land one of the top pass rushers available. Again I think Pettine's system, based on what it look like with NYJ, was not reliant on edge guys to be dominant edge rushers. It was reliant on them being sound against the run though and executing properly.
As long as you're not counting on him to be your #1 receiver, he's a pretty good utility player. Definitely a return game upgrade.
#Packers mentioned as a team for Cordarrelle Patterson, which makes sense. HUGE upgrade in the return game. Can be a factor stretching the field, in the backfield, and in the screen game. Plus, won't be expensive. https://t.co/V5x1OSTlvH
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