2020 Free Agency Thread

Pakrz posted:

13X posted:

I think a blow up doll would be an upgrade over Martinez. So glad he’s gone!

I don’t think Martinez was worth the money but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people think he is.  I want an upgrade over him as well and am hopeful GB can do that in the draft.  I don’t think we did that in FA. 

I wouldn’t have paid Bulaga either but there’s zero doubt that GB got worse, potentially much worse, at RT.  I’d resign Veldheer and draft an OT high if I could. Gotta get a MLB and WR early too. 

Well I may be a bit harsh but I don't think we lost anything by letting Blake walk and will not miss him on the field. Seems like a good guy though. I hate to see Bulaga go but I do understand why they didn't pursue him. I would love to see Breeland come back.

Well well well

@AdamSchefter: QB trade: Jacksonville is trading QB Nick Foles to Chicago for the Bears’ compensatory fourth-round pick, sources tell ESPN  

Bears’ coaches such as Matt Nagy have worked with Foles in past and know him well.

This working at home thing isn't really working out that well for Chicago...

Chicago is certainly better with Foles than Trubisky, but Nick Foles just got Wally Pipped on a team built very similar to Chicago...lots of defense, not much offense going despite there being talent. Also the only redeeming quality of Trubisky is his rushing ability, Foles has the athleticism of an elderly giraffe. It’s becoming more apparent that talent isn’t Chicago’s only problem, Nagy seems a little in over his head. 

Foles 2 Graham is a recipe for the slowest moving pass sequence anyone has seen since Doug Pederson to Bubba Franks.

Packers supposedly interested in 35 yr old TE Delanie Walker. I know there’s an MLF connection, but Packers gotta stop wasting time and money on old fucking TEs. Ride or die with who you have, sign a quality young talent like Ebron, or acquire someone via trade. 

I don't think Breeland is coming back after not getting re-signed last year.  Seems like something happened there.

DH13 posted:

I don't think Breeland is coming back after not getting re-signed last year.  Seems like something happened there.

Supposedly he wanted to start and he felt the coaches favored King.

Grave Digger posted:

Packers supposedly interested in 35 yr old TE Delanie Walker. I know there’s an MLF connection, but Packers gotta stop wasting time and money on old fucking TEs. Ride or die with who you have, sign a quality young talent like Ebron, or acquire someone via trade. 

"Nickta" 

"Da Foles"

"SAAAAAUSSSSAGE"

Foles knows Nagy/Pederson's systems and will be working with some offensive coaches he had in Philly.  Bears offense should be more effective.  Maybe not hot but at least with a good personality.

Happy NFL New Year. The following Packers are now free agents:

Geronimo Allison, Ibraheim Campbell, Tyler Ervin, B.J. Goodson, Ryan Grant, Marcedes Lewis, Will Redmond, Jason Spriggs, Jared Veldheer, Danny Vitale, Tramon Williams, Malcolm Johnson. https://t.co/bQqHee7uFQ

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 18, 2020

Happy NFL New Year. The following Packers are now free agents:

Geronimo Allison, Ibraheim Campbell, Tyler Ervin, B.J. Goodson, Ryan Grant, Marcedes Lewis, Will Redmond, Jason Spriggs, Jared Veldheer, Danny Vitale, Tramon Williams, Malcolm Johnson.

#Chargers have agreed with former #Vikings DT Linval Joseph on a two-year, $17 million deal with another $2 million in incentives, sources say.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 18, 2020

Chongo posted:

Happy NFL New Year. The following Packers are now free agents:

Geronimo Allison, Ibraheim Campbell, Tyler Ervin, B.J. Goodson, Ryan Grant, Marcedes Lewis, Will Redmond, Jason Spriggs, Jared Veldheer, Danny Vitale, Tramon Williams, Malcolm Johnson. https://t.co/bQqHee7uFQ

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 18, 2020

With the exception of Tramon, not one of those FA's would I want back. I think what you have in Wagner is likely equal, and perhaps better, then Veldheer.

I do wonder whether Tramon would come back on a cap friendly 1 year deal.   

I thought Ervin showed promise...other than that I agree on Tray-mon...old but grizzled vet.

Eric Ebron is available and would give
the Packers a dynamic weapon at TE

• 26 years old, 6’4, 253 lbs
• Fast - ran a 4.60 40 yard dash
• Pro bowler with 13 TDs in 2018

Get Aaron Rodgers some weapons 💯 pic.twitter.com/803rIorKMS

— IKE Packers (@IKE_Packers) March 18, 2020

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I ran a 4.5 twice with a pulled hamstring 🙄 they gave me a 4.6 lol but AR12 👀 https://t.co/h0cmtO3vaY

— Eric Ebron (@Ebron85) March 18, 2020

Chongo posted:

I thought Ervin showed promise...other than that I agree on Tray-mon...old but grizzled vet.

Sorry, I didn't see Ervin. Yes, bring him back. He transformed ST's.  

Hell of a typo...

michiganjoe posted:

#Chargers have agreed with former #Vikings DT Linval Joseph on a two-year, $17 million deal with another $2 million in incentives, sources say.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 18, 2020

They can have him. His play dropped off in 2019 apparently. I hadn’t looked closely when he was first released, his reputation was still elite run stuffer. Apparently even that area has diminished. If we’re signing someone to pair with KC give me inglorious bastards like Jarran Reed or Michael Pierce. 

Panthers release S Eric Reid...

Chongo posted:

Hell of a typo...

those are some big big defensive linemen:

Damon Harrison  6'2 340 lbs  32 years old       Lions

Michael Pierce     6'0 345 lbs   27 years old      Ravens **

Andrew Billings   6'1 310 lbs   25 years old      Bengals

LMAO at GuteKUNT.
I'm so sophomore k   

Grave Digger posted:

michiganjoe posted:

#Chargers have agreed with former #Vikings DT Linval Joseph on a two-year, $17 million deal with another $2 million in incentives, sources say.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 18, 2020

They can have him. His play dropped off in 2019 apparently. I hadn’t looked closely when he was first released, his reputation was still elite run stuffer. Apparently even that area has diminished. If we’re signing someone to pair with KC give me inglorious bastards like Jarran Reed or Michael Pierce. 

Pierce signed with the vikings.

Grave Digger posted:

Packers supposedly interested in 35 yr old TE Delanie Walker. I know there’s an MLF connection, but Packers gotta stop wasting time and money on old fucking TEs. Ride or die with who you have, sign a quality young talent like Ebron, or acquire someone via trade. 

100% agree.  Enough with the geriatric approach to the TE position.  

I have no issues of they sign Walker to be this years version of Marcades Lewis. He’s a pretty good blocker and I’d guess he’d be a pretty damn good locker presence. And he’d come cheap. 

But no, that is not going to be your starting TE. Unless they plan to sign Ebron, MLF would have to feature the youngster, Sternberger. 

Give that kid this off season and Training Camp and I think the Packers could have a pretty good young TE. 

The #Packers have agreed to terms with TE Marcedes Lewis on 1-year deal worth $2.25M, including more than $1M guarantee, source said. He drew interest from the #Saints, as well.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 19, 2020

Chongo posted:

I thought Ervin showed promise...other than that I agree on Tray-mon...old but grizzled vet.

Me too on Ervin.

Grave Digger posted:

Chicago is certainly better with Foles than Trubisky, but Nick Foles just got Wally Pipped on a team built very similar to Chicago...lots of defense, not much offense going despite there being talent. Also the only redeeming quality of Trubisky is his rushing ability, Foles has the athleticism of an elderly giraffe. It’s becoming more apparent that talent isn’t Chicago’s only problem, Nagy and GM Ryan Pace seems a little in over his head. 

Foles 2 Graham is a recipe for the slowest moving pass sequence anyone has seen since Doug Pederson to Bubba Franks.

FIFY

Chongo posted:

I thought Ervin showed promise...other than that I agree on Tray-mon...old but grizzled vet.

Guys like Ervin are a dime a dozen. Could be the next great thing or a sorta flash in the pan.  Let him simmer in FA for awhile.  If he signs elsewhere, no biggie.  If nothing better comes along and he’s still available, give him a shot in TC/preseason. 

PackLandVA posted:

Chongo posted:

I thought Ervin showed promise...other than that I agree on Tray-mon...old but grizzled vet.

Guys like Ervin are a dime a dozen. Could be the next great thing or a sorta flash in the pan.  Let him simmer in FA for awhile.  If he signs elsewhere, no biggie.  If nothing better comes along and he’s still available, give him a shot in TC/preseason. 

Packers did not have a single legitimate kickoff or punt returner until Ervin.  I don't agree with the idea of choosing to have none.  At least keep him until someone better comes along.

Ervin's 'fringe' is a tough place to be.
On one hand, it costs a roster spot for (essentially) just a returner. And that's a role that should be filled by a WR, RB, or CB already on the roster.
On the other, he was pretty solid when he subbed in on offense, and showed versatility in those packages. And, of course, he made a world of difference on PR.
He's a guy that shouldn't be on the team, but when he can do more than the 6th round pick, maybe he should be.

phaedrus posted:

PackLandVA posted:

Chongo posted:

I thought Ervin showed promise...other than that I agree on Tray-mon...old but grizzled vet.

Guys like Ervin are a dime a dozen. Could be the next great thing or a sorta flash in the pan.  Let him simmer in FA for awhile.  If he signs elsewhere, no biggie.  If nothing better comes along and he’s still available, give him a shot in TC/preseason. 

Packers did not have a single legitimate kickoff or punt returner until Ervin.  I don't agree with the idea of choosing to have none.  At least keep him until someone better comes along.

The fact that the Packers didn’t have a legit returner last season doesn’t increase Ervin’s value moving forward. It just means the Packers had crap personnel/scheme at the position.

Ervin certainly was way better than what they had prior. But he wasn’t anything special that can’t be found elsewhere.

I don’t think there needs to be a rush to sign him, that’s all.  See what the draft holds, what else might be available.  No reason to commit money on day 1 of FA.

Packmeister posted:

SteveLuke posted:

Fackrell and Martinez will undoubtedly lead the Giants to another sterling defensive performance in 2020.

I must say, I think they got a very good deal with Fackrell. We'll see how well he can do, but of the two, I think he helps them more.

Fackrell was a disruptive player, for GB, last year. His sack numbers and pressures were down because we had the Smiths playing lights out.  Martinez made a ton of tackles, but many were like AJ Hawk's tackles: 6-7 yards past the LOS. Hardly any TFL. Now that BJ Goodson is gone, GB needs to make drafting the ILB position a top priority. Kirksey will be a good back up at ILB, if he can stay healthy. For me, I do not think there will be any FA signings for ILB after Kirksey for GB, and especially so now that Kwiaktowski has been signed. Look to the draft for a rookie whose salary will be team friendly. 

https://packerswire.usatoday.c...ney-at-ilb-position/

I think Gutey found some good bargains this year in Kirksey & Wagner. No reason to pay premium prices for a non-premium position.

Lions traded Slay to the Eagles.

I don’t think Ervin is special or irreplaceable, but I he’s definitely an above average returner and showed some promise as a gadget player. I hope they resign him, but not if he wants a lot of money. There are players in the draft who can fill his role. 

mrtundra posted:

 Kirksey will be a good back up at ILB, if he can stay healthy. 

??? They did not sign him to be a backup. He played EVERY defensive snap for two straight years before being injured. 

Unless the compensation is obscene you definitely bring Ervin back.   

My takes so far:

1. I would have paid Bulaga the 10 per for 3 years.   That's a cheap deal for one of the best RT's in the game.  Yes, he has injury concerns, but we have a aging QB and OL should be a top priority.  
2. Happy as a clam that we've moved on from Martinez and acquired a ILB with some coverage skills.   Gives us some flexibility in the draft and we can run a platoon with a thumper if we want to. 
3. I thought Ervin was RFA and we could have had him for cheap?   If accurate, don't understand letting him hit the market.   He provides value in the return game and his similar style to Jones means we wouldn't have to alter game plan if Jones leaves mid game. 
4. Speaking of Jones, if we are pinching pennies in order to give him a mega deal, I don't like that.   I love the kid, but paying RB's top dollar is not a good use of cap space.   You get more bang for your buck in other postions as RB is so reliant on o-line performance.