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@packerboi posted:

Billy Turner also gone:


The #Packers are also releasing OT Billy Turner, per source.

He was let go for failing a physical. From what I've read, there may be more cap money saved with Turner, due to him failing that physical, too.

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@Floridarob posted:

Jenkins will probably be RT. Yosh is probably backup.

I think Yosh will be Bakh's back up at LT. I think they will leave Jenkins at LG, when he gets back from injury. Runyan will back up Jenkins at LG. Newman at RG.  I think Kelly comes back at RT with a new draftee or a practice squad guy(Cole Van Lanen) as back up.

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If Adams and Rodgers are both coming back as well, we should just assume the bill for all this will come due in 2024 or so and we should expect a 3-14 type season when they have to reset and carry about 75 million in dead cap charges for this all-in scenario?

Pretty much yeah.  It's the same approach the Saints took at the end with Brees and they're cap is a mess right now.  My hope though is Gute just deals with the cap issues that first year without Rodgers and doesn't pretend they can make it work.  Wipe away those dead cap charges in one year, get a good draft pick, then move on and rebuild.  Saints almost tried to hang on a bit this last year and the cap issues are still with them. 

@Goalline posted:

Opinions are like assholes.

Leave Henry out of this.

But you were right. A RT is worth more than a LG. All you gotta do is look at salaries. The top RT's in the NFL make about $3 million more per year than the top guards.

Here's a thought. Leave Jenkins at LG until his rookie deal is done. Sign him to a new contract as a guard then move him to RT unless Yosh or someone else is already a star there.

@packerboi posted:
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2 years ago some were concern when #Packers did not re-sign veteran right tackle Bryan Bulaga. #Chargers released him today, saving $10.7 million. They signed him to a 3 - year deal in 2020 worth $30 million. He played in only 11 games. He's recovering from core muscle surgery.

It's that third contract for most players (or the second for RBs) that teams usually end up regretting. The wear and tear adds up and the injuries hit harder and take longer to recover from.

Over the last 25 years, you look at contracts of guys that left like Bulaga, Marco Rivera, and Greg Jennings or the guys that stay like Jordy Nelson, Dorsey Levens, Ahman Green, and Bakhtiari, and the risk is very high for missed seasons. Even the guys were it works out have to really struggle to stay on the field (Chad Clifton, for example).

My fear is Davante Adams is going to be another one of these types of contracts. Big money deals for guys going into their 30s only are good risks for QBs, superstar LTs, pass rushing specialists - and even then you often get burned.

If the random bits of info are true floating around the innerwebs, and the Packers offered 23M a season, and he wants 30M, my guess is they find a trade partner. Absolute best case I see the Packers coming up to 25M, NFW they get to 30M...just not buying it.

I love Tae as a player and a person...but read the room...your QB makes $50M. DeAndre Hopkins plays with a QB still on his rookie contract. Julio Jones plays with Tannehill who makes 38M. Chargers may be a better for your salary demands given they've got $23M in cap space after doing their recent round of moves.

The bottom line is that if Aaron Rodgers goes down with a season-ending injury the Packers chances of winning a Super Bowl are close to zero.

If Davante Adams goes down with a season-ending injury, the Packers chances of winning a title probably go down 10 or 20%. There are probably at least four guys that are more important than him to their chances: Rodgers, Bakhtiari, Clark, and  R. Gary. If not for the depth at those positions, Jones/Dillon or Alexander/Stokes would also be up there.

Even 23 million a year is a questionable investment for a guy they are 7-0 without  during the MLF era. They've averaged almost 32 points a game in the Adams has not played.

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