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Juju Smith-Schuster is WR1 for KC now that Tyreek is gone...MVS, at best would be WR2. Same with GB...MVS is max getting $10M a year...and most likely 7-8M.

He is a middling receiver with speed...his greatest value to us is he knows the offense. If someone wants to pay him $10M a year, I hope it's not the Packers. He's not worth that.

@packerboi posted:

Some nice highlights here. I don't expect Reed to be some sack machine, just be a big ass wall that can stop the run and push the interior OL. Which it looks like he's plenty capable of doing, especially along side #97

Definitely a nice addition.

@Pakrz posted:

Dude ain't worth 10mm a season... He just isn't.  

He was to the Chiefs! The Chiefs are in the same boat we are, as far as WRs, go. I think they have two 1st round picks right next to GB's picks. If we do not draft the best WR available, KC will do it. So, if we want Olave, or whomever, we'd better pick him, if he falls to us.

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Silverstein becoming a pissy old bitch in his old age...



@packerboi posted:
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Remaining players from Gute's first draft class in 2018 (11 picks): Jaire Alexander

Guys left from Packer draft classes. These are the guys that would be roughly between 24 and 29 years old right now. This should be the core of your team on second contracts or just about to get extensions. The fact they only have 8 guys from these drafts left (and only 2 guys drafted after the second round) would normally be associated with a really bad record, but somehow they are 39-10 the last 3 years.

2019: Gary, Savage, Jenkins

2018: Alexander

2017: Kevin King, Aaron Jones

2016: Kenny Clark, Lowry

2015: 0

2014: 0

It’s not a terrible contract for MVS, but my concern is and has been his health.  

If you knew he’d play 14 or 15 games then that’s a good value.  It’s not a good value for half the season.

Tyler Lockett (next 2 years) is similar in terms of salary to MVS.  If Seattle called and said they’d trade him for a 2nd and 3rd I might make that deal.

I'm kind of indifferent to the MVS deal.  It's not a bad contract but I also don't really mind that the Packers didn't give it to him.  MVS just never showed he was anything more than a part-time deep threat.  Most receptions he's had in his career came as a rookie - 38.  And even if you extrapolate his 2021 season over 16 games, it's still 38 catches.  He has had so little competition for targets the last 3 years that it's a huge red flag he wasn't more productive. 

That said, he could turn the corner and catch 70 passes for 1,200 yards and 10 TDs next season.  He could also be the same player he was the last 4 years and catch 30 passes for 500 yards and 4 TDs.  Neither would surprise me. 

It’s the market I guess. When the stud guys are getting $25-$30 million per year it makes sense in that insane world that the Tier 2 and 3 guys will get $10 million per like MVS got. Plus don’t forget that the salary cap is supposed to be going up significantly after this year. Who the hell knows. As many have said, Monopoly Money.

Guys left from Packer draft classes. These are the guys that would be roughly between 24 and 29 years old right now. This should be the core of your team on second contracts or just about to get extensions. The fact they only have 8 guys from these drafts left (and only 2 guys drafted after the second round) would normally be associated with a really bad record, but somehow they are 39-10 the last 3 years.



As others have said, Rodgers is the ultimate FO deoderant.

@The Heckler posted:

I never hold it against a player who gets a nice pay day.  I just don't see how a team thinks he is worth that kind of money.   He is fast sure but man am I glad GB didn't pay that.

He's the second coming of Corey Bradford.

The difference is once Bradford left Favre, he went to Houston where David Carr was getting crushed by playing behind one of the worst OLs in history.

MVS is leaving Rodgers to go to, at worst, an equivalent QB. He also will be playing for the first time with an elite TE. If MVS stays healthy, he may put up big numbers there. It doesn't mean he would have put those up in Green Bay. In KC, the safeties have to be very concerned with Kelce in the seam and it opens up the deep middle a lot more. Even Tonyan, when healthy, could be covered by a LB. Marcedes Lewis can probably be covered by a DE at this point. DeGuara isn't really a TE (he's a H-back).

@Pakrz posted:

I don't think you even have to go back that far.  Hell, what would Jerry Rice in his prime be worth today?  

The 1994 Niners team would either be impossible to assemble these days, or you'd have to play with essentially practice squad players for a year or two to pay for the cap hell you'd need to do it. All these guys were between 25 and 32 years old and Steve Young was 33.

Steve Young, Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Ricky Watters, Deion Sanders, Stubblefield, Ken Norton Jr., Merton Hanks, Tim McDonald. I think only Watters would have been young enough to be on his rookie deal.

Young would be 45-50 million, Rice would be at least 30, Taylor would get 15, Sanders would be the highest paid CB in the NFL and probably get even more money as one of the best punt returners in NFL history (30), Stubblefikld would get Aaron Donald money, etc.

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