2023 Non-Packers Off Season Thread

@PackerRick posted:

The longer this goes with Rodgers stalling and lining up all his buddies with the Jets the more I think the Packers should pull the rug out on this deal at the last minute. If it wasn't for that contract it would be a great way to show Rodgers he's overplaying his hand.

Could be poison pill…AR asks for his buddies to be included, leaks it to Russini, then when the Jets refuse he can say I tried my best and keep his friendships.

if I was the Jets I’d get Lamar’s mom on the line and get something in the works.  We all know that these arbitrary deadlines mean nothing.

The Packers tried to include Waller in the Adams trade too. That would have been another FO screwup. The guy had a couple great seasons. Now he's a 30 year old injury prone TE. We could have had another Jimmy Graham.

@SteveLuke posted:

How could the Pack have offered the Raiders their 2nd last trade deadline when everyone knows it was going to Pittsburgh for Claypool until the Bears swooped in at the last minute?

Oh well, nice to see Tommy Boy quickly jump in to assure the Green & Gold masses that the FRONT OFFICE did everything in its power to acquire Waller and it was, as always, the other team that thwarted the deal.

Just a darn shame that the rest of the NFL has refused to accept all those round 1-5 draft picks the Pack has been dangling to acquire veteran players over the past two decades.

Please God, tell me you’re not this miserable in person every second of every day.

@SteveLuke posted:

How could the Pack have offered the Raiders their 2nd last trade deadline when everyone knows it was going to Pittsburgh for Claypool until the Bears swooped in at the last minute?

Oh well, nice to see Tommy Boy quickly jump in to assure the Green & Gold masses that the FRONT OFFICE did everything in its power to acquire Waller and it was, as always, the other team that thwarted the deal.

Just a darn shame that the rest of the NFL has refused to accept all those round 1-5 draft picks the Pack has been dangling to acquire veteran players over the past two decades.

Based on the way Waller and Claypool played last year, you still feel bad that we didn’t sign them? Yours in not an agenda based on the need to win. Yours is an agenda based on the need to whine.

@SteveLuke posted:

How could the Pack have offered the Raiders their 2nd last trade deadline when everyone knows it was going to Pittsburgh for Claypool until the Bears swooped in at the last minute?

I'm going to assume every team has multiple offers for various trades going on all the time.  It would be stupid not to.

Fans care way too much about specific names.  Teams just see players they can plug into a team.  My guess is they rated Claypool and Waller the same so they didn't care which one they got for a 2nd.

@Goalline posted:

Based on the way Waller and Claypool played last year, you still feel bad that we didn’t sign them? Yours in not an agenda based on the need to win. Yours is an agenda based on the need to whine.

Nah, pointing out that a certain member of the Packer press was assuring the masses that Green Bay was shipping a 2nd rounder to Pitt for Claypool at the trade deadline before the Bears outbid them while the same intrepid reporter is assuring the same masses today that the Pack was actually all about sending its 2nd rounder to Las Vegas for Waller is just highlighting how this reporter operates.

Moreover, if the Packers were truly intent on sending a 2nd rounder for either Claypool or Waller as Mr. Silverstein says they were then, as you point out, that would not exactly reflect well on the GM who supposedly was pushing so hard to acquire them, right?

My agenda is, and always has been, simple, straightforward, and consistent - pointing out that the current powers that be and the QB they have deferred to for so long are incapable of leading the Packers to their 5th Super Bowl victory.

With Rodge almost, likely, maybe, (who knows?) gone, the spotlight is about to shine ever more brightly on Murph and Gutey.

Can't wait.

Matt Ryan released. Probably time to hang them up but nice move by his agent.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/s.../1635762512397312004

I say Irsay overpaid.
I'm willing to not-play for way less than that.

Andy Dalton to the Panthers.  Thank God, I was afraid he might wind up as a back up in Green Bay. 

The perennial backup. The only decent game he ever played was against the Badgers.

If Love is, indeed, the starter this upcoming season, I prefer the Packers sign a veteran QB to back him up that is smart and a good mentor.  Don't care if it's a QB with a light resume as far as starting.  I prefer they get a guy that can work with Love, not someone that is looking for reps to showcase his own talents.

@PackLandVA posted:

If Love is, indeed, the starter this upcoming season, I prefer the Packers sign a veteran QB to back him up that is smart and a good mentor.  Don't care if it's a QB with a light resume as far as starting.  I prefer they get a guy that can work with Love, not someone that is looking for reps to showcase his own talents.

Kurt Warner? He'd be a good mentor and probably not looking to pad his stats much. He has ties to the organization and we'd be able to extend our streak of hall of fame quarterbacks on our roster.

I wanted Taylor Heinicke but not 2 years at $14 mil like the Falcons gave him.

@ammo posted:

Andy Dalton to the Panthers.  Thank God, I was afraid he might wind up as a back up in Green Bay.

the “red rifle”

@TomPelissero: The #Lions are signing former #Bears RB David Montgomery, per sources.

NFL watchers are saying this means Detroit won’t be bringing Jamaal Williams back. Big mistake if so. He’s been perfect for them and for what Dan Campbell is building there.

@Shadow posted:

Kurt Warner? He'd be a good mentor and probably not looking to pad his stats much. He has ties to the organization and we'd be able to extend our streak of hall of fame quarterbacks on our roster.

Matt Ryan would fit this. He previously worked with MLF was the QB coach in Atlanta in 2015-16.

They would probably have to pay Ryan more than what's good for the cap and/or give him a two-year contract. Plus, watching Ryan is watching a guy who stayed one year too long.

They may have a backup on the roster….

Allen Lazard gets a 4 year, $44 million  deal with the Jets. That's one guy on Rodgers' wish list for the Jets. Let's see if Cobb and Big Dog get offers from them.

@PackLandVA posted:

If Love is, indeed, the starter this upcoming season, I prefer the Packers sign a veteran QB to back him up that is smart and a good mentor.  Don't care if it's a QB with a light resume as far as starting.  I prefer they get a guy that can work with Love, not someone that is looking for reps to showcase his own talents.

We need a backup that could potentially win you a game or two if you needed him to, but not be a guy who fans will start clamoring for if Love struggles.  This would have been the downside of a guy like Heinicke.  He's a fan favorite and if Love got off to a slow start, there would be calls for Heinicke to step in.

Need someone who fans do not want to see play in the game unless they absolutely have to.  Love needs to be given at least a full season to prove himself, warts and all.

@ilcuqui posted:

@TomPelissero: The #Lions are signing former #Bears RB David Montgomery, per sources.

NFL watchers are saying this means Detroit won’t be bringing Jamaal Williams back. Big mistake if so. He’s been perfect for them and for what Dan Campbell is building there.

Rumors are CHI is eyeing Ekeler.  Jamal is available.  Dum but could draft Bijan.

@vitaflo posted:

We need a backup that could potentially win you a game or two if you needed him to, but not be a guy who fans will start clamoring for if Love struggles.

Less worried next season (being his first season) about getting a win or two from a backup as I would be about helping Love's development.

Anybody getting signed to replace Jamaal is a frickin crime!

Lamentations.

I don’t think Elliott getting cut is a surprise to anyone. His contract was structured with the out here, and the re-signing of Pollard was expected, as well.

Derek Carr just got a hell of a RB. Jamal Williams signs with the Saints, a 3 year deal.

I don't understand that move by the loins at all.  Jamaal fit that perfectly.  Montgomery?  he's just gonna get hurt

@Herschel posted:

I don’t think Elliott getting cut is a surprise to anyone. His contract was structured with the out here, and the re-signing of Pollard was expected, as well.

The surprising thing with Elliott is that he wasn't released last year.

twas ever thus

@TomPelissero:   The #Vikings have agreed to terms with former #Packers DL Dean Lowry, per source. Lowry started 80 games over seven seasons in Green Bay and has 15.5 career sacks.

@ilcuqui posted:

@TomPelissero:   The #Vikings have agreed to terms with former #Packers DL Dean Lowry, per source. Lowry started 80 games over seven seasons in Green Bay and has 15.5 career sacks.

Could not be more pleased that Dean the Dream gets to continue his career ... in Minnesota.

Only wish the Queens would have snapped him up sooner.

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Unread post by Offsides 97 defense » Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:51 pm

Lowry better not do a reverse Gilbert Brown. Now that he's a Viking, can we take Lowry off the x4 banner?

Titans are cleaning house and cutting vets

Safety Kevin Byard might be next after they asked him to take a pay cut

https://overthecap.com/player/kevin-byard/4777

OTC valuation was $9.6M, a little spendy for GB but he's a talented S

@ilcuqui posted:

@TomPelissero:   The #Vikings have agreed to terms with former #Packers DL Dean Lowry, per source. Lowry started 80 games over seven seasons in Green Bay and has 15.5 career sacks.

RTFB!!

@ilcuqui posted:

@TomPelissero:   The #Vikings have agreed to terms with former #Packers DL Dean Lowry, per source. Lowry started 80 games over seven seasons in Green Bay and has 15.5 career sacks.

NFCNcest continues...

A devastating L for my facial hair today pic.twitter.com/9OclFECJxj

— Luke Johnson (@ByLukeJohnson) March 17, 2023

On a day of multiple punting moves, there’s another: punter JK Scott is returning to the Chargers on a 2 year, $4 million deal, per source.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 17, 2023

BJ Sander JK Scott

solid third round, and fifth round picks