Dom apologists also like to forget those kinds of stats also occur when his defenses have been mostly or entirely healthy. Against DAL, NO, DET, BAL, etc he had either 10/11 or 11/11 preferred starters. Same with previous seasons.
So, no. It's not always injuries.
MM said today positional meetings (with his asst's) "were rough this morning" and he had some of lowest grades of the season against the Browns.
Why do I feel despite all this, Dom ain't going anywhere?
If only we could have seen this coming
I think this is finally the turning point for Dom as DC. I've never jumped on the pitchfork and torch wagon over all the years we've seen the D collapse in the playoffs or have watched too many QB's shred our secondary. Never thought he'd get booted despite what popular opinion was. But this season feels different. There have been many excuses for the D over that time, most of them having to do with injuries, some with high draft choices that didn't work out. But I think we've seen enough player development on that side of the ball where results should be showing. They were - run D was very stout until last couple weeks thanks to Daniels, Clark, Lowry and Martinez. Randall, King and Jones paired with HHCD and Burnett should be providing returns also. But holy crap it seems like third down D (long and short) has nose dived and scoring D is mired in the bottom third. If they're on the field last, it's almost a given the other team will score. The last straw is how bad they looked vs. CLE. And the D has been relatively healthy. I've given DC the benefit of the doubt ever since 2010 but I think I'm done. I think he is too.
I think Capers is a good football coach.
But I think he is a bad fit for the Green Bay Packers style of talent procurement. As a draft and develop team with a franchise QB the money the team spends will be mostly on the offensive side of the ball. That makes sense to me.
It also means that the defense will see more turnover in it's players and will be generally younger and less experienced.
Capers system is complex. As MM says about his offense, "It's multiple". Well so is Capers system. If you populate the defense with experienced vets who are good players it would be an awesome defense most of the time. Much like Pittsburgh's most seasons.
But what you end up with is a defense that gets gashed for big plays because all those young guys eventually make blunders that good offenses eat for lunch. We see it year after year after year. Chunk plays and more chunk plays.
GB should find a system coach like the guy in ATL or SEA. Draft speed and let them loose. You can find speed guys all over the draft. What you cannot find are smart, speed guys who need to all work in unison and understand what they are doing.
packerboi posted:Why do I feel despite all this, Dom ain't going anywhere?
Why do you and so many other Packer fans think Dom will be back in 2018 to "lead" the D yet again?
How about because the Pack's defensive performance in 2017 is not much different than what we've seen the past 7 years?
Or because MM has hitched his bandwagon to a defensive coordinator who is the longest serving defensive coordinator in the NFL by a wide margin so why change now?
Or because MM declared Dom is an outstanding football coach less than a year ago?
Or because letting Dom go now would be a tacit admission that those who have griped about Dom's D's last place ranking in 2011, the D's epic meltdown against Kap & the 49ers in the playoffs after the 2012 season, and the D's mediocre to poor play every season thereafter were right and Dom should have been shown the door long ago?
Or maybe because of all of the above?
SteveLuke posted:packerboi posted:Why do I feel despite all this, Dom ain't going anywhere?
Why do you and so many other Packer fans think Dom will be back in 2018 to "lead" the D yet again?
How about because the Pack's defensive performance in 2017 is not much different than what we've seen the past 7 years?
Or because MM has hitched his bandwagon to a defensive coordinator who is the longest serving defensive coordinator in the NFL by a wide margin so why change now?
Or because MM declared Dom is an outstanding football coach less than a year ago?
Or because letting Dom go now would be a tacit admission that those who have griped about Dom's D's last place ranking in 2011, the D's epic meltdown against Kap & the 49ers in the playoffs after the 2012 season, and the D's mediocre to poor play every season thereafter were right and Dom should have been shown the door long ago?
Or maybe because of all of the above?
Sad, but true.
We do what we do.
Stick with someone past his prime.
MM will never fire Compers. But he may "help him retire"
I don't care if it's a Favre-type of retirement just get Dom out of Green Bay!
#fireretirerefresh
Trade him to the Jets?
The thought of Capers sending dick pics to Jenn Sterger is frightening.
Fedya posted:The thought of Capers sending dick pics to Jenn Sterger is frightening.
Maybe he'll send pictures of his toupee.
On his dick?
Get him a merkin.
Pikes Peak posted:On his dick?
Not sure it would look any different...
You should probably pin this. That way everyone doesn't have to work so hard to display their hatred of Dom.
I prefer hard work
So do I. I wish it was hard work to know everyone's feelings about Capers.
Dom Capers should be working in an old field stone foundation, hand hewn timber barn milking a hundred head with his hands while it's 50 below outside.
#Packer DC Dom Capers regular season QB Rating allowed...
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 13, 2017
Least: 67.2 (2010)
Most: 95.9 (2013 & 2016)
This year... 98.2 QB Rating
I've said before, this season feels different on D. They have players and fewer injuries than usual yet...see above.
If the last game was an indicator I'd say some guys just don't give a crap anymore.
Agreed Henry, up until the last couple CLE possessions.
So, it's Dom, coaching guys who may or may not be any good who may or may not care.....
Its a multiple d.
I've read that several guys on defense are just average and should not be re-signed.
Every team has several guys who are average on D and O. It's what the coaches do with them that makes or breaks that side of the ball. No one team is full of only superstars on either side of the ball.
michiganjoe posted:#Packer DC Dom Capers regular season QB Rating allowed...
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 13, 2017
Least: 67.2 (2010)
Most: 95.9 (2013 & 2016)
This year... 98.2 QB Rating
OUTSTANDING!
Imagine if he had to play ARod twice a year every year?
Dom's business card: "Whatever ills your QB has, come play GB and we'll make him feel like a superstar!"
DH13 posted:Its a multiple d.
Yes, they $hit the bed multiple times a game.
Someone (other than Daniels) needs to be a vocal guy on defense in that locker room.
I'm looking at Clay or Burnett...maybe even Clark.
#Riseagain above your coaching.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter who speaks up if the scheme is too complicated for them to follow or is the wrong scheme for the players to execute.
#Packers defense is 32nd in RZ Scoring Efficiency... Allowing 100%
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 14, 2017
Coincidently, Packers finished 32nd in this last year... Allowing 95.6%
No team has allowed 100% in RZ Scoring since the 2008 Buccaneers...
It bears repeating: "Dom Capers is an OUTSTANDING football coach."
michiganjoe posted:#Packers defense is 32nd in RZ Scoring Efficiency... Allowing 100%
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 14, 2017
Coincidently, Packers finished 32nd in this last year... Allowing 95.6%
No team has allowed 100% in RZ Scoring since the 2008 Buccaneers...It bears repeating: "Dom Capers is an OUTSTANDING football coach."
WOW
I did not know they allowed scores 100% in the RZ. Holy balls.
Damn you Fennel!
If Dom is let go will he be hired in 24 hours?
Pikes Peak posted:If Dom is let go will he be hired in 24 hours?
Not in 24 months or years.
I would have thought that a team would toss an INT or the RB stumble and fall on 3rd-and-5 or something, but 100%? Well that's a sobering statistic. I wonder what AR12's comeback-win percentage would be in the 4th Q if the D could make more stops? Maybe Skippy B would shut up.
It' scoring, not just TDs. I believe.
Pikes Peak posted:If Dom is let go will he be hired in 24 hours?
UPS is hiring seasonal workers. They're called Santa's helpers which is appropriate considering how generous he's been to so many people outside GB.
