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Barry puts on makeup and a push up bra and now the droolers think he’s ok to take home

just wait til morning, he will look the same as he always does and you’ll have an STD (same timid defense)

When your defense is getting turnovers it hides a lot of warts. The team is winning and people don't seem to care the defense gave up 475 yards or the opponent left 15 points on the field because of drops.

Barry puts on makeup and a push up bra and now the droolers think he’s ok to take home

just wait til morning, he will look the same as he always does and you’ll have an STD (same timid defense)

This is oddly specific.

I just have to say......

If the Packers don't win at least 3 games out of their next 6, it'll be (most likely) because the defense didn't hold the other team down.

How does he keep his job if that happens??

WTAF?!?!

Barry is passive by nature.   When the big moment in the big game comes, he will make the conservative call.    He simply does not have the mentality to step on an opponents throat. His entire philosophy is to sit back and wait for them to make a mistake.   The best defenses force mistakes via aggression.

The mentality of a good DC is that you've got to be willing to lose a heartbreaker and face up to the music if your call goes south; you went for the dagger and the other guy was able to beat it. Barry would rather make the safe call and skewer his players for not being in the correct spot or not tackling or not recognizing what was happening; he's not strong enough to face the music. His philosophy is better to die by a thousand paper cuts rather than a bayonet.

Barry just isn't aggressive enough and plays "not to lose" type of defense. KC will probably show plenty of aggressiveness until Love beats it. Spagnola blitzed over 50% of the pass plays when Love made his first ever start last season. Hopefully, that experience helps Love this time around.

@Fandame posted:

The mentality of a good DC is that you've got to be willing to lose a heartbreaker and face up to the music if your call goes south; you went for the dagger and the other guy was able to beat it. Barry would rather make the safe call and skewer his players for not being in the correct spot or not tackling or not recognizing what was happening; he's not strong enough to face the music. His philosophy is better to die by a thousand paper cuts rather than a bayonet.

This. Loser mentality.

The biggest thing is speeding up the QBs clock. Look what they did vs. the Lions. Goff was rattled....You have to pressure the QB. When you do....good things usually happen for your team more often than not.

The sitting back in zone and dying by 1,000 paper cuts.....WTAF?!? If I'm DC and someone beats me by being aggressive and going after the opposing QB, I'll take that 100 times out of 100...and if you're going to play zone....at a bare minimum disguise it to confuse the QB!

@PackerRick posted:

I have a bad feeling Barry will really play it conservatively against Mahomes because of his elusiveness and ability to always be looking down the field under pressure.

If there is a team to play soft zone against it's this version of the Chiefs. Barry's scheme is designed to make the opponent execute long drives without making mistakes. The Chiefs WRs drop a lot of passes. Those can kill drives.

Mahomes is likely to kill you with big plays if you blitz him and making his WRs catch 4 third down conversions versus allowing chunk plays on one catch is a better strategy.

Double edged sword.  You zone their WR's then you zone Kelce.  You'd be betting that one guy can't win a game but we've seen him and Mahomes ruin lesser D's.  Maybe you zone with someone like Quay shadowing Mr. Swift exclusively.

If there is a team to play soft zone against it's this version of the Chiefs. Barry's scheme is designed to make the opponent execute long drives without making mistakes. The Chiefs WRs drop a lot of passes. Those can kill drives.

Mahomes is likely to kill you with big plays if you blitz him and making his WRs catch 4 third down conversions versus allowing chunk plays on one catch is a better strategy.

KC receivers have been charged with 6 drops the last 3 games, same as the Packers. Mahomes is the media darling so anything marginal is going to be called a drop by the press. But against MIA and PHIL, when we heard all the talk about KC drops, 20% of Mahomes throws were recorded as bad throws (4 drops, 14 bad throws). So to give Mahomes a cushion and all day to throw will be a failed strategy. If the Packers don't make Mahomes uncomfortable he will make the Packers uncomfortable.

@Boris posted:

The biggest thing is speeding up the QBs clock. Look what they did vs. the Lions. Goff was rattled....You have to pressure the QB. When you do....good things usually happen for your team more often than not.

The sitting back in zone and dying by 1,000 paper cuts.....WTAF?!? If I'm DC and someone beats me by being aggressive and going after the opposing QB, I'll take that 100 times out of 100...and if you're going to play zone....at a bare minimum disguise it to confuse the QB!

The thing is that we got after Goff by winning one-on-ones, not blitzing. It was the players, not the scheme....and they did it vs. one of the best o-lines in football.

@FLPACKER posted:

The thing is that we got after Goff by winning one-on-ones, not blitzing. It was the players, not the scheme....and they did it vs. one of the best o-lines in football.

I think the Lions were missing a few guys. Their center went down early in the game.

@ammo posted:

Only a loser like you gives a thumb down to the Packers running the table.   

He got me for saying the Lions were short handed in the OL, including their center. <#Lions potential Pro Bowl center Frank Ragnow, who did not practice today, suffered a fractured throat in the first quarter Sunday and finished the game somehow, source said. He’s played the most snaps at center in the NFL this season… but could miss this week.>

If there is a team to play soft zone against it's this version of the Chiefs. Barry's scheme is designed to make the opponent execute long drives without making mistakes. The Chiefs WRs drop a lot of passes. Those can kill drives.

Mahomes is likely to kill you with big plays if you blitz him and making his WRs catch 4 third down conversions versus allowing chunk plays on one catch is a better strategy.

He needs to mix it up.

You've got 8 to cover 4 or is it 3. How in the hell does Kelce get that wide open?  He is slower than most LB now.  On the final play he was running about half speed, is that all he has now?

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@ammo posted:

You've got 8 to cover 4 or is it 3. How in the hell does Kelce get that wide open?  He is slower than most LB now.  On the final play he was running about half speed, is that all he has now?

He’s running around with a boner coz he knows what he’s doing after the game.

@ammo posted:

You've got 8 to cover 4 or is it 3. How in the hell does Kelce get that wide open?  He is slower than most LB now.  On the final play he was running about half speed, is that all he has now?

It's more than speed.  Kelce is a smart veteran/HOFer... he knows how to find soft spots in coverage.  

I don't watch a lot of football outside of GB, but I did notice Kelce sitting on the bench by himself a few times looking completely disinterested in the game.  To me, he just looked like he didn't give a fuck.  Not sure if that is normal or not for him.  

Somebody said yesterday that Kelce was that wide open because Quay left his area and came up to attack Mahomes. I haven't seen the all-22 to know how true that is, but if that's the case, two things: Mahomes was very close to the LOS when he released the pass, but Quay has to be more aware of down/distance/LOS. Quay has to know that in that situation with 18 yards to go, and the QB isn't Jackson or Hurts, he needed to wait to make sure Mahomes had crossed the LOS before leaving Kelce wide open. If it had been MVS, you maybe get away with it, but not Kelce.

@ammo posted:

You've got 8 to cover 4 or is it 3. How in the hell does Kelce get that wide open?  He is slower than most LB now.  On the final play he was running about half speed, is that all he has now?

36, Johnson, left his zone early to pursue Mahomes.    The QB had to cover 20 yards to get to where Johnson was and the yard to gain, he still left early because MaHomes broke the pocket.  

Horrid play by Johnson.

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