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@Chongo posted:

At this point, it's like being mad at the dog for shitting all over the living room, not the owner who was too busy scrolling Instagram to take the dog out.

We have the shitty defense our HCINO (head coach in name only) allows. It's beyond Barry's fault at this point...it's the fuckhead who has refused to hold him accountable.

Are we going to pretend that the owner isnโ€™t actually shitting on the floor right next to the dog?

This is not simply Joe Barryโ€™s defense. It is also Matt Lafleurโ€™s defense. This tissue soft, passive defense is exactly what Matt Lafleur craves. Tissue soft and passive. Perfectly describes Lafleurโ€™s personality.

@Goalline posted:

Are we going to pretend that the owner isnโ€™t actually shitting on the floor right next to the dog?

This is not simply Joe Barryโ€™s defense. It is also Matt Lafleurโ€™s defense. This tissue soft, passive defense is exactly what Matt Lafleur craves. Tissue soft and passive. Perfectly describes Lafleurโ€™s personality.

That was kind of the point...this falls mostly on the HC because he is the "man," "in charge."

@Chongo posted:

At this point, it's like being mad at the dog for shitting all over the living room, not the owner who was too busy scrolling Instagram to take the dog out.

We have the shitty defense our HCINO (head coach in name only) allows. It's beyond Barry's fault at this point...it's the fuckhead who has refused to hold him accountable.

The Lombardi years were before my time but I'd love to see how he would have handled Barry.  Just like I'd like to see my dad react to Trans athletes or men who identify as women using the same restrooms as little girls. Worth the price of admission.

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According to a source close to the organization, Joe Barry is expected to be relieved of his coaching duties in the coming days. Since the beginning of his tenure the Packers defense has ranked last in rushing defense and they have a 30-21 record over 2 and a half seasons.

Appreciate the link but the post was from 12/17. If it hasn't happened by now it won't happen until after the season.

I think it happens at the end of the season. Playoffs are a long shot and I don't think anyone on the defensive staff is auditioning for the DC job.  Barry needed to be fire last January. 

WTF is the deal with this franchise and garbage defenses?  We've had like one top 10 defense in the last 20 years and go figure, we win the Super Bowl that year.  3 GMs, 3 head coaches, and 5 DCs yet we suck at defense every year.  What's the reason for this franchises defensive failures?

the best sportswriter in Wisconsin these days is Jesse Temple at the athletic. he only covers the Badgers though

I think they dig, they just don't publish what they know. They know a whole lot more about the 23 situation than what's being reported and the reporters will hint all around it, but the team prioritizes keeping things in house. They hire for loyalty and stability. It's hard to find people inside the building that will go on record even as an unnamed source.

I'm guessing there's also relationships between the paper's and radio station's management and the organization. How many people on the board are in businesses that advertise with both?

Always seems like there's two kinds of reporters in Green Bay, lifers and young people making a pit stop on their way to a bigger market. The team manages those relationships well enough to keep everyone happy.

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