Supposedly Jimmy buckets & Pat Riley also recruited Avery
Bradley was sold on the Heat’s culture and Pat Riley and Jimmy Butler recruited him to leave Los Angeles, sources said. https://t.co/7l19DnBuaL
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020
Still nothing on Bogdonavic going anywhere. A lot of teams with cap space have used it or are saving it for Giannis next year.
Jae Crowder to Phoenix ....3/30M
Not a bad deal for Crowder
That Hayward contract is ridiculous
Dude has made a lot of money
Sounds like Lakers have inside track to Bogdanovic. Ridiculous.
Hopefully Horst is going to continue fighting for him -- whatta fuckin joke the NBA is. If he goes to LA, guaranteed I won't be watching the finals.
Maybe the Bucks will get AD if he goes to LA 
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Still nothing on Bogdonavic going anywhere. A lot of teams with cap space have used it or are saving it for Giannis next year.
And that’s why he hasn’t signed the deal...
@Music City posted:And that’s why he hasn’t signed the deal...
Bogdanovic going to the Lakers is the best case scenario at this point. No one in the East is noticeably better yet because the Heat, Raptors, and Celtics all think they can get Giannis and won’t commit until they know he’s off the table.
Danny Ainge losing both Kyrie and Hayward and getting nothing in return is worse than anything anyone else has done
The Bucks may have Giannis wait until next league year. It’s to the Bucks advantage for these teams to all hold that cap space open, if they’re that stupid.
And maybe that’s why Giannis is holding off for now? If teams wait to add free agents thinking they are saving space for Giannis he could royally screw things up for them by waiting until (after) the free agent period and then sign the max leaving them empty handed. I mean, most of the moves up to this point have been predictable. Miami brought back the Dragon and Toronto resigned Van Vleet. Boston actually took a step backward IMO. Atlanta overspending doesn’t matter.
Look no further to what the Knicks did last year. They were all but assured to sign Durant and Kyrie and ended up with neither then basically spent like drunken sailors and overpaid to fill out the roster.
@Tschmack posted:And maybe that’s why Giannis is holding off for now? If teams wait to add free agents thinking they are saving space for Giannis he could royally screw things up for them by waiting until (after) the free agent period and then sign the max leaving them empty handed. I mean, most of the moves up to this point have been predictable. Miami brought back the Dragon and Toronto resigned Van Vleet. Boston actually took a step backward IMO. Atlanta overspending doesn’t matter.
Miami let Crowder go. Bradley signing doesn’t make sense for them. What does he give you when you already guard heavy?
It’s almost like Miami signed Bradley because they thought maybe the Bucks would sign him. I agree it doesn’t make sense for them.
Miami let Crowder go because he’s similar to Olynyk and they weren’t going to pay both guys 10MM+ per year.
I still do wonder if the Bucks have a shot at Bogdanovic. The market is drying up for teams that want to spend money and again the Bucks can offer Sacramento something back in return. I don’t see some team signing him to a huge offer sheet because in the end the Kings don’t need him. For all we know his agent is throwing out the Lakers just because. But they need the money to bring back AD and save a slot for another max player next year. If they sign Bogdanovic then it’s LeBron for one more year and AD for the short term potentially.
The longer BB goes unsigned, the more I think the Bucks are still in the hunt. He’s not the be all end all, but sure would be a great addition.
This might eliminate the Hawks from Bogdanovic contention....or not
Rajon Rondo has agreed to a two-year, $15M deal with Atlanta Hawks, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020
Of the top 7 teams in the East (Toronto, Milwaukee, Miami, Boston, Philly, Brooklyn, and New Jersey), you could argue the Bucks have improved as much on paper as any of them. At least 3 of the teams appear to be saving cap space to make a run at Giannis.
Toronto is probably going to lose Marc Gasol and haven't added anything.
Miami has lost Crowder and added Bradley. That's not an improvement, especially in matching up against the Bucks.
Boston has lost Hayward and Kanter and have added nothing so far.
Philly lost Al Horford and added Dwight Howard and Seth Curry. Howard is unplayable against small ball lineups. That's not an improvement, especially in matching up against the Bucks.
The Pacers have added no one.
The Nets are going to be better, but Durant hasn't played in 18 months and Kyrie isn't exactly the most stable guy.
There's an argument that the Bucks going from Bledsoe, Hill, and R. Lopez to Holiday, Augustin, and Portis is more improvement than any other Eastern contender. We are probably disappointed with the off-season because we thought Bogdanovic was coming, but this isn't a bad outcome.
The Hawks and Hornets have made the most upgrades of anyone in the East, but I don't think anyone thinks they are Finals contenders.
I was panicking this morning, but the Portis and Augustin signings helped my mood a lot. The media narrative will, of course, be that the Bucks haven't done enough to convince Giannis to sign the super-max. But, again, if we weren't all hyped up by the Bogdanovic sign-and-trade rumor/leak, I'd think we'd all be happy with getting Holiday for Bledsoe/Hill.
@Boris posted:This might eliminate the Hawks from Bogdanovic contention....or not
Rajon Rondo has agreed to a two-year, $15M deal with Atlanta Hawks, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020
I think they still have room. They had a lot. But they’re using up an awful lot- they may not have too much more...
If you really want to be pissed off, read this series of posts.
https://twitter.com/squaresens...089739259909/photo/1
If this is correct, for those of us that thought Horst might be playing chess, he doesn't even seem to know how to play checkers.
Not a glaring endorsement of Bucks management. A bunch of amateurs getting rich off a generational superstar.
The Packers have a dedicated cap guy in Russ Ball. Might the Bucks need a lawyer type like that to avoid these types of errors?
@tsr86free posted:The Packers have a dedicated cap guy in Russ Ball. Might the Bucks need a lawyer type like that to avoid these types of errors?
You’d think an organization trying to pay someone almost a quarter of a billion might be able to spring for a 500k a year guy to do this. Or even a college intern to learn this stuff. Maybe just let Mallory Edens handle it?
Lakers re-sign KCP 3yr/40M. They are not likely in the Bogdan running. When Atl signed a bigger, older version of BB in Gallo, I figured they might be out. Who wants Bogdan Bogdanovic?
EDIT TO ADD:
According to Chris Kirschner of The Athletic, Bogdanovic could sign a four-year, $72 million deal with the Hawks. 5 hours ago.
Good luck with that. It’s an intriguing, young team for sure, but for a legitimate chance at a ring for only a few million less over 4 years, he’d be with a win now team. Maybe he prefers the city of Atlanta to Milwaukee.
He still hasn't signed....something is up
Pacers???
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/20...est-from-pacers.html
Bucks signed Diakite??
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/20...to-two-way-deal.html
It looks like the Bucks screwed up some things that affect the fringes of the rotation. That’s not great but it shouldn’t be a killer.
The grief the Bucks are getting about the Connaughton contract is over the top though. No, Pat is not a star guard but it’s not like he’s a stiff. He’d have likely gotten that contract or more to go elsewhere. 5 million a year for Connaughton is not a bad deal at all
The Bucks are getting grief because teams and the media are pissed they got Holiday which makes them better. The Portis and Augustin moves are decent pickups as well. Even if they don’t get Bogdanovic their shooting and athleticism has improved from last year. Given their struggles against Toronto and Miami last year they have at least closed the gap in terms of matching up or moving ahead of them.
So, if it translates in postseason success of course it will tick off the media and potential Giannis suitors. A Milwaukee team with Giannis will be competitive every year and go against the current trend of star players joining forces in big markets to acquire titles.
Personally, I hated it when Durant joined GS. I hated it even more when LeBron and AD joined the Lakers. On the other hand, I absolutely loved seeing the Clippers melt down. I’m hoping to see the same thing happen to the Nets. Unless you grew up as a fan of one of those teams what’s appealing about buying a title?? If the NBA wants to grow their fan base they should want teams like Denver and Milwaukee and Dallas and Indiana and OKC and Sacramento to be competitive and make things interesting against the super teams.
So let’s put all this together- Bogdanovic has been linked to the Bucks, Atlanta, and Lakers... and in each case (except the Bucks) the team has signed a guy that:
- plays the same position thus making it illogical to invest another $60-80M
- the team made other deals that make it difficult for the team to fit the salary cap wise
Now yesterday a rumor floated that the Pacers were interested in a Myles Turner s&t, and the Pacers have flat denied there is any engagement with the Kings or Bogdanovic’s agent.
Almost a week has passed since the deal was leaked. The Agent is known for shenanigans playing teams against each other, so it’s clear at this point that the Agent was the one who leaked the deal. Since Monday he’s linked his client to 4 different teams, while all these teams have either signed someone else or in the case of the Bucks, backed away.
The League has started an investigation, but perhaps it isn’t the Bucks that is being investigated...
The Lakers rumor is the best of them all. I mean, why would Sacramento trade a decent player to one of their rivals? And who exactly of value would they get back in return from LAL?
The Kings have no intention of extending Bogs so of course they should do a sign and trade to get something back in return. DDV fits that mold. He’s a young, developing player on the rise and will cost them much less than retaining Bogs. For the Bucks, they have a window of 3-4 years and Bogs can help them win now v the future with DDV. I mean, it’s completely logical for both teams.
Wouldn’t it be something for the Bucks to sign him to a straight offer sheet and offer Sacto nothing in return?
It’s possible. I just wonder what teams are still interested and able to sign the guy. There can’t be many. If you want to win I can’t think of a better opportunity than Milwaukee. Miami perhaps, but they aren’t going to sign him because it means they may not be able to afford Giannis or another max player. Plus they have Herro and Dragic and Bradley already and those are high volume shooters without factoring in Butler who needs the ball a lot.
@Music City posted:Wouldn’t it be something for the Bucks to sign him to a straight offer sheet and offer Sacto nothing in return?
Wouldn’t that put the Bucks over the hard cap? In any case, they probably still have as good a chance of getting BB as anyone.
Free agent guard Bryn Forbes has agreed to a two-year deal with the Miwaukee Bucks, his agent Mike Lindeman of @excelsm tells ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 22, 2020
Good Shooter ... looking like lots of offense ...the bench defense needs a boost.
And here is the defense off the bench. Like it !!!
Free agent Torrey Craig has reached agreement on a deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, his agents Dave Spahn and Austin Brown of @CAA_Basketball tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 22, 2020
@Music City posted:So let’s put all this together- Bogdanovic has been linked to the Bucks, Atlanta, and Lakers... and in each case (except the Bucks) the team has signed a guy that:
- plays the same position thus making it illogical to invest another $60-80M
- the team made other deals that make it difficult for the team to fit the salary cap wise
Now yesterday a rumor floated that the Pacers were interested in a Myles Turner s&t, and the Pacers have flat denied there is any engagement with the Kings or Bogdanovic’s agent.
Almost a week has passed since the deal was leaked. The Agent is known for shenanigans playing teams against each other, so it’s clear at this point that the Agent was the one who leaked the deal. Since Monday he’s linked his client to 4 different teams, while all these teams have either signed someone else or in the case of the Bucks, backed away.
The League has started an investigation, but perhaps it isn’t the Bucks that is being investigated...
The person that got screwed over the most in all this is Ersan. Bogdanovic and his agent will get his money somewhere. The Bucks have made some good moves to pivot from this. Ersan was going to make an extra 7 million next year.
Forbes is a nice get for the Bucks. Shoots almost 40% from 3. Decent FT shooter as well. Started the last 2 seasons for the Spurs.
At this point they are probably about done. Maybe one more frontcourt guy?? Torrey Craig is a defensive specialist that can guard a number of positions on the court. He’s not much of an offensive threat, but he doesn’t need to be.
As for Forbes, he’s another guard that can shoot. I mean, that much is clear. Holiday, Augustin, and Forbes are all pretty good outside shooters. DDV has improved in that regard as well but he’s going to be used more for energy and D.
Bogdan signs with Hawks. Good riddens. I think the Bucks are pretty much full up now, maybe one more depth piece. Looks solid on paper.
😕 - I was hopeful they could still get it done w/Bogdan
I hope the King's match it fuck those ATL pricks
Hawks spending money like it’s going out of style. Much like Charlotte good luck with that Atlanta.
I still think it’s very possible with the additions they’ve made they are better off without him (and with DDV). I’m excited to see how things play out.
