Oh crap.
Whisenhunt in Detroit would be a very bad thing for Packer fans & the NFC North
Frazier was a DC for the Vikes before becoming HC, and those defenses were well-coached and did very well. Of course, it helped Frazier to have a younger Allen, K. & P. Williams, and Winfield. I think DC is where Frazier belongs, as HC was just one step too high on the food chain for him. It could end up being a good hire by Lovie.
You're right, I did forget about those! That might have put them over the top if their offense had taken them! 
Originally Posted by Timmy!:
You guys are being too kind in your lists of worst HC jobs.
DallAss is easily the absolute worst.
Washington is not far behind.
Houston probably rounds out this group.
Carolina might be included, but if Richardson interferes, he does it quitely.
In any case, these teams have the worst to offer in meddlesome owners, and have no future.
I am not sure I would care which one is worse. I wouldn't take any of those jobs unless I get paid $35 mill for at least 5 years. Then when the owner interferes I tell him "I coach the **** team". For any of those owners who think they are more than owners, that would be enough to set in motion the events that will end my employment after a year or two. My buyout price would be $15-20 mill. So I'd trade a year or two of hell for never having to work another day in my life. I would do it with that in mind. If the owner actually lets me do it my way and I get results, and it turns into a longer term project, so be it. Life could be worse. 
Originally Posted by Timmy!:
Now that their season has ended, what kind of changes will Ol' Jerruh be making in DallAss?
Seriously, what coach in their right mind would take a job there? Or in Washington, for that matter. At least in places like Detoilet, they let the coach rise/sink to their own level of incompetence without interfering.
The first and only change that Jerry could make that would mean anything for Dallas would be to fire himself as the team's GM. Until that happens nothing will change. But I agree not a desirable job unless I get paid enough for the grief.
Sugar-Bear fired.
Joe Philbin announces offensive coordinator Mike Sherman has been relieved of his duties.
Impossible they can find someone better
Someone had to go after that mess. You can bet Philbin was told he had to sacrifice someone to "make a statement."
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Impossible they can find someone better
I don't think he'll ever get another NFL job...Sherman's demons have turned him into Captain Queeg from the Caine Mutiny.
I know he had serious issues with squirrels , I hope he gets the help he needs
Be surprised if Philbin doesn't raid the Packers for a replacement.
He can have Clements or Campen.
I agree with this:
@PackerUpdate: In my opinion, MM should promote McAdoo to OC and give Clements the title of assistant head coach/QBs. McAdoo is too good to let get away.
Winston Moss is already Asst HC... can they have two?
assistant to the head coach
If McAdoo goes to MIA, here's my dream coaching offensive staff for next season:
McCarthy - HC
Bennett - OC
Van Pelt - QB
Bobby Turner - RB
John Rushing - WR
Fontenot - TE
Bruce Matthews - OL
Originally Posted by Rusty:
If McAdoo goes to MIA, here's my dream coaching offensive staff for next season:
McCarthy - HC
Bennett - OC
Van Pelt - QB
Bobby Turner - RB
John Rushing - WR
Fontenot - TE
Bruce Matthews - OL
So you're going to fire Clements and Campen? Clements will stay as long as Rodgers is here I thinks. If Campen got fired my guess would be Fontenot would move to OL and the opening would be at TE coach. If Clements got fired and MacAdoo leaves I think they would move Bennett to RB, Van Pelt to QB, and hire an OC from the outside. My guess would be someone McCarthy has worked with, but I'd like to see someone brought in as OC who has proven track record like Gary Kubiak or Rob Chudzinski.
TE is pretty much an entry-level position in the NFL after quality control assistant. It is a place you can put an unproven guy to see if he can actually coach without doing too much damage. It's also a place you can put a guy who might not be a great coach, but is a great motivator, or a guy players relate too...good for team morale, etc.
Isn't MM pretty much his own OC? I always felt like our OC was pretty much in name only. Maybe MM needs to promote McAdoo, and back off a bit...let him call most of the plays.
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
Winston Moss is already Asst HC... can they have two?
They could make him an "associate" head coach. Or even a "deputy" head coach.
Originally Posted by Grave Digger:
Originally Posted by Rusty:
If McAdoo goes to MIA, here's my dream coaching offensive staff for next season:
Bennett - OC
Van Pelt - QB
If Clements got fired and MacAdoo leaves I think they would move Bennett to RB, Van Pelt to QB, and hire an OC from the outside.
McCarthy hired Van Pelt as the RB coach after he had been a QB coach and he moved Bennett from RB coach to WR coach specifically with the purpose of broadening their overall coaching experience. Why would he suddenly pigeon-hole them back to former spots? If McAdoo leaves, and under the assumption McCarthy would want to hire from within, I could see Bennett as the QB coach and Van Pelt to WR coach.
I think you're probably right. QB coach would be the next logical move for Bennett and same for Van Pelt at WR.
Rob Demovsky
Two years ago, Rodgers was hoping for a QB coach who had played the position, but McAdoo had not.
McAdoo was in charge of installing the red zone plays, said Rodgers.
HA!
Browns can have him.
Former quarterback? Played in this offense? Ties to the Packers?
If McAdoo was in charge of red-zone plays, then he definitely needs a new line of work!
I'd be okay with it Orlando but I imagine a lot of Packer fans would throw a fit.
Originally Posted by Orlando Wolf:
Former quarterback? Played in this offense? Ties to the Packers?
Which former QB wore Lee jeans? Majkowski? McMahon? T.J. Rubley?
Favre of course is famous for promoting Wrangler jeans.
Your attempt at pithy humor is reminiscent of a Packers Red Zone wrinkle: looked good on paper .....
Dolphins "part ways" with GM Jeff Ireland...day after he makes Philbin fire Sherman.
Originally Posted by Orlando Wolf:
She doesn't either...
G'dam, what dog and what car.
What is it with you people and fat asses?
