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Found on the internet: Jordan Love was under pressure on just seven of his 21 dropbacks. When pressured, Love completed 5-of-7 passes for a staggering 152 yards and two scores. His average depth of target when pressured was 19.4 yards, meaning he was effectively attacking down the field despite rushers in his face. Credit Love for his coolness under pressure. And credit the offensive line for giving him enough time to create explosive plays. PFF charted Micah Parsons with only three total pressures.

Jordan Love (and his GM) send a message to the NFL

Excellent piece by Tyler Dunne on Love including this interesting anecdote:

About 45 minutes later, I received a phone call from someone close to Love who was understandably giddy. Amid the postgame celebration, this person brought up a recent conversation he had with Love. The quarterback told him thereโ€™s nothing a defense can deploy thatโ€™s confusing him right now. Heโ€™s confident he has an answer for every pressure, every coverage.

The tongue-wagging trigger man, in other words, is in an MJ-like zone.

He's playing as well as any QB in the league and I believe MLF also shares that view.

@michiganjoe posted:

Jordan Love (and his GM) send a message to the NFL

Excellent piece by Tyler Dunne on Love including this interesting anecdote:

About 45 minutes later, I received a phone call from someone close to Love who was understandably giddy. Amid the postgame celebration, this person brought up a recent conversation he had with Love. The quarterback told him thereโ€™s nothing a defense can deploy thatโ€™s confusing him right now. Heโ€™s confident he has an answer for every pressure, every coverage.

The tongue-wagging trigger man, in other words, is in an MJ-like zone.

He's playing as well as any QB in the league and I believe MLF also shares that view.

I don't think any of you believe me, but I will say it again. He is the best QB in the NFL.

@Goalline posted:

I don't think any of you believe me, but I will say it again. He is the best QB in the NFL.

The Ringer keeps an updated list and currently has him as the 11th best active QB in the NFL.

Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Prescott, Stafford, Trevor Lawrence, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud are ranked above him.

https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

I'm not sure he's going to play like this for years consistently, but I have gone from thinking he'd be a better-than-average guy you can win with to thinking he can be a guy that can drag you to wins against better opponents. We'll see against the Niners, but he's arrived as a guy you have to at least consider as a Pro Bowler right now.

The whole sequence on that third touchdown against the Cowboys was an eye opener. He controlled the cadence to get the Cowboys to show blitz, changed the play, and then threw over onrushing guys in a zero blitz to hit Doubs 35 yards downfield over a guy trailing in coverage. It reminded me of the Favre to Rison play in the Super Bowl in terms of reading coverages, but this was a much harder throw.

The last TD throw into the end zone sidearm across his body looked like Mahomes.

https://twitter.com/packers_ac.../1746886519577551211

He's still less than 3 months removed from throwing bad interceptions in games against the Raiders, but holy crap has he been good the last 2 months.

I have a feeling this unexpected playoff run is over on Saturday night. I see this as equivalent to the 1995 stretch where they went out to SF and beat a very good SF team in an upset in the game that kind of announced they had arrived as a future force and then lost to the Cowboys the next week. The Cowboys were at their 1990s peak and were just too good. The Packers lost 37-28 and even led in the 2nd half at one point, but I always felt the Cowboys were going to win that game watching it live. I think that's what this SF game will be like. The chance they have is that Brock Purdy is not Troy Aikman.

and even led in the 2nd half at one point, but I always felt the Cowboys were going to win that game watching it live. 

Disagree with this.  The Packer D was dominating the Cowboys until an illegal cut block took out John Jurkovic for the remainder if the game.  That is when the Cowboy defense began to have their way.   He was that important to the Packers interior D. If Jurkovic had not gotten hurt I think the Packers prevail in that game.  JMHO.

@Boris posted:

I'm going to wait for another season to complete and (hopefully) more playoffs in January 2025.....before I give him my anointing ๐Ÿ™‚

โ˜๐Ÿป last season Philly fans thought Jalen Hurts was in the top 3 of quarterbacks. Now theyโ€™re not sure if he can read defenses or if they should keep him (after giving him $250m).  I love where Love is but Iโ€™ll wait another season to make pronouncements.

@ammo posted:

My brother, you have been up and down on Love like a Yo-Yo ever since the Rodgers trade. Please make up your mind. 

IIRC Goalline defended Love for the longest before he finally threw in the towel in October.

He may not plateau at this current pace but he has shown enough to convince me that this isn't smoke and mirrors, that MLF is calling plays around his weaknesses like Shannahan does to a degree with Purdy. 

He has all the skills and intangibles you look for.  He sees the field and can read defenses pre and post snap, he has the arm talent and ability to be accurate as well as improvisation when things fall apart,  he is calm under pressure and not afraid to get hit if it means making a throw.  Part of his success will hinge on MLF and his teammates also adjusting to D when the inevitably "catch up".

His floor now looks like an above average starting QB and his ceiling could be top 3.

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The last TD throw into the end zone sidearm across his body looked like Mahomes.

https://twitter.com/packers_ac.../1746886519577551211

That throw is insane. Gotta be careful. Those are dangerous throws too

I have a feeling this unexpected playoff run is over on Saturday night. I see this as equivalent to the 1995 stretch where they went out to SF and beat a very good SF team in an upset in the game that kind of announced they had arrived as a future force and then lost to the Cowboys the next week.

I had to go back and look at the first playoff game. 37-20 win over the Falcons at Lambeau. Jan 1996.

https://www.pro-football-refer...res/199512310gnb.htm

I see this as different. In Jan 1996 the Packers went out to SF and beat the #2 seed coming off a bye. Packers were not that far off from being #2 seed themselves.

Packers just beat the #2 seed Cowboys and the Pack was clearly the better team. The Cowboys were 16-0 in their last 16 games in Dallas....you think about that....16 wins in a row!

No no....that game on Sunday has shades of Jan 2011 Packers in Atlanta. The seeding is different now so everything has changed.

Now.....a new challenge....you have to look in the mirror and figure out how to win.... against yourself! Because this Niner team on offense is a mirror image of the Packers.

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The TD to Wicks was ELITE.

A) changed the play late

B) signaled/called for the WR to motion, again late

C) then, somehow eluded a free rusher and threw around him, off his back foot, with a perfect strike for the TD

I've watched/rewatched this play, frame by frame on NFL+, and am amazed everytime with what I saw.

It was, for me, a lot like the 3rd and 10 pass from Rodgers to Jennings that sailed by the defenders fingertips... but different 'cause Rodgers had less pressure in his face.

I think, being 6'4", is a significant advantage for Love compared to the last 2 guys who on their best days were maybe 6'2", but more like 6'1" +.

I don't think he's anywhere near his ceiling.

And, he seems more of leader like Starr than he does any previous Packers Super Bowl winning HOF QBs.

@H5 posted:

And, he seems more of leader like Starr than he does any previous Packers Super Bowl winning HOF QBs.

This is what I keep coming back to.  A year or two ago I posted that Love may not be able to match Rodgers physically, but he could outdo him as a leader like Starr.  Goalline commented that I shouldn't underestimate Love's arm or athletic ability.  I think we may have both been right.

One stat that has been absolutely huge for Love and the Packers, Love started every single game this year.  There were a hell of a lot of QBs that were unable to stay healthy for a grueling 17 game schedule this year.  It was huge for his development not to really miss any time this year.

Kudos to solid protection from the O-Line, Love for taking care of himself and getting the ball out quickly in most cases, and thank you lady luck.  Because make no mistake, sometimes you just have to get a little bit lucky to make it through a season completely healthy in a game where all sorts of weird things happen.

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