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Packiderm posted:

 M3 got frazzeled last year with the GB media. NY needs a firery guy like a Tomlin clone or even Arians

There is a big difference between being the Jets coach and being the Giants coach. The Giants are associated with Parcells, Coughlin, and Super Bowls the last decade. The Jets are associated with the Mark Sanchez, the butt fumble, and Rex Ryan's foot fetish. 

Ubetcha posted:

He really needs to step away for a year and let the McVay wave settle a little. MM's a football guy and will likely eventually be a coach again somewhere but he needs to freshen up his act and stop being so resistant to change.

Very true.  As well as take some steps to take better care of himself he hasn't looked very healthy the last couple of years.  

He needs to have a come to jebus about his offense and retool OR entrust that part of the game to an OC.  Otherwise he's not going to get a lot of interest as a HC.  His offense can still light it up but it depends on a roster loaded with elite offensive talent.  If we time travelled the 2011 or 2014 offense to 2019, they'd still be very successful.  But good luck finding today's equivalent on a team that needs a new HC.

Mike just needs to sit out a year or two and change nothing. He’s carrying around a pretty fresh whiff of stink from the past two seasons.

In a year or two all that will be forgotten. Similar to Arians and he’ll land a gig somewhere. Whether or not he decides to switch up his philosophy will not really matter. There will never be a shortage of owners looking for a known name to sell season tickets. 

Agreed, a year off will be good for him. He can actually watch what's going on around the league instead of keeping his head down and working on the same shit from the past 10 years. If he keeps an open mind and learn from what he observes I think he could be successful again. 

Who knows, maybe the Steelers will part ways with Tomlin and Big Ben retires. He could return to his home and start a revival there with a young QB to be named later. 

Fedya posted:

Nobody would be defending OBJ's tantrums if he were on the Jets.

And- dimwit beat writers led the caravan of shutting down the benching of Eli, which needed to happen at the time and STILL hasn't happened. In fact the qb Mac was gonna look at isn't even on the roster. Stark difference from the Bert/AR transition. As bad as that was, we weren't sitting there 2 years later staring at the very same dilemma going into 2019. They can't quit Eli.  Beckham says and does what he wants and Mara muzzles himself. Clusterf*** if there ever was one. 

Fandame posted:

A year off for MM and a chance to reflect, rebuild, rework his offense just like Pettine did with his own coaching. After a year with new insight, MM will be courted and hired. 

How does Mike sell this self reflection in an interview? Why didn’t this self reflection happen in Green Bay? Hard to sell new insight when he didn’t have new insight with a HOF QB. 

I’ll forever go back to Rodgers comment about the entire organization needing to be “all in” after the Title game loss in Atlanta. That didn’t happen until 2019. 

Im also convinced Gute made it clear to Murphy the resident shit show needed a complete overhaul. 

Mike is going to get a job. But he’s going to need to word scrub his message if that message is that he’s reimagined himself now. 

It's not uncommon for someone, even an NFL coach, to take a year off and step back to see what needs to be changed and, maybe, if the fire is still there. In another thread, someone mentioned that Crosby said MM just didn't want to try anything new after the Seattle loss, that he became more entrenched. That should have been MM's and the management's clue that he was fried, and most likely, that he was tired of the constant criticism an NFL coach gets. The pressure, especially after that failure, had to be incredibly intense. So, a year off to reflect is a good thing, I think. Yes, he'll have to wordsmith a new message, but hopefully, it comes with a new attitude and new offensive philosophy and playbook that he can also show off.

Okay, this is ****ing hilarious.  McVince and the Jets.

Per CBS Sports: 

Specifically, sources said, the Jets asked to see a list of a potential coaching staff so that they could peruse and consider the options. McCarthy complied with the request but began to have reservations about the process at this point, sources said, and was unsure if this would in fact be a match.

Jets, "Are you bringing all those stiffs headlined by Winston Moss with you".

McVince, "I'm uncomfortable with this process".

Chongo posted:

Look how many times Marty Schottenheimer and Norvell Turner got hired as HC...there's a sucker born every minute.

I actually liked Marty Schottenheimer.  His teams played hard.  He did struggle in the playoffs as it always seemed like his offenses were a little too close to the vest and they'd eventually run up against someone that could outscore them.  I think he's way better as a head coach than Turner ever was. 

I actually don't think it looks like that big of a deal.  Not condoning parents/adults confronting refs/coaches/etc in school and youth sports, but when I saw the headline this morning, I thought it would amount to a "bigger" confrontation.  Glad it didn't.  Looks like he had some words and maybe the ref said something back (an "FU" maybe) and that riled MM even more.  Again, seems out of character, and he's clearly in the wrong.  But from the silent video, I don't think it's that big of a deal. 

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