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Henry posted:
Grave Digger posted:

Personally I think the more complex you can be on defense the better. You have to have the right guys in place though who understand what you're doing and can execute. That's the biggest reason why 2010 worked, Nick Collins, Woodson, Williams, CM, Pickett, Raji, Jenkins, Bishop, and Hawk. all understood their jobs and got it done. There weren't a lot of blow assignments despite executing a pretty complex defense that allowed guys like Raji to be in a position to make a Pick 6...that's craziness to drop a 330 pounder into coverage. Seattle's defense is probably easy to figure out, but knowing what the defense is doing and beating it aren't the same which is why Seattle has been so dominant...their 11 are so good that you will probably lose one or multiple 1on1's on any given snap. 

Just a thought but I really wonder if this equates to better success in FA?  Just bring in guys with a motor and keep it simple. 

Another thought that struck me.  Injuries.  How many injuries are avoided when guys aren't flopping around trying to make up for getting burned or shutdown in a scheme they don't fully understand or is just plain bad?  Of course there's the overall physicality of the game but if you've got a player who owns his part of the turf and is ready to pop anything that comes into it then he isn't positioning himself wrong and reacts at the right time.  

Another thing I'll be watching over the next couple years.  

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1st outside hire on D.

I'd like to see more outside hires.  This makes me sad.

Associate head coach/linebackers Winston Moss still is under contract and there hasn’t been any word of him leaving after he was passed over for the defensive coordinator position.

Graham covering LBs will be interesting if there's a scheme change. If Pettine goes to more of a 43 then there won't be a need for ILB AND OLB coach, so Moss will have to be what? Defensive Ends coach? Or nothing coach. I saw somewhere that longtime Patriots DL coach Pepper Johnson is available, he might be a good option for DL. 

Not sure about the OLB coach. Where are you getting that? Pretty sure he had responsibility for ALL LBers. McCurley was an Asst. LB coach, neither ILB or OLB designated.

RE: Moss and that report.

According to Jason Wilde of the Wisconsin State Journal, the Packers are not expected to retain associate head coach and linebackers coach Winston Moss after McCarthy passed him over for the open defensive coordinator job.

Wilde has been saying this all week. Said he had heard it from more than one source, yet Moss remains on Packers.com for the list of D coaches, along with Perry and Whitt. All other D coaches are gone.


DEFENSE


http://www.packers.com/team/coaches.html

Hungry5 posted:

RE: Moss and that report.

According to Jason Wilde of the Wisconsin State Journal, the Packers are not expected to retain associate head coach and linebackers coach Winston Moss after McCarthy passed him over for the open defensive coordinator job.

Wilde has been saying this all week. Said he had heard it from more than one source, yet Moss remains on Packers.com for the list of D coaches, along with Perry and Whitt. All other D coaches are gone.


DEFENSE


http://www.packers.com/team/coaches.html

I read today in the State Journal that there will be announcements about coaching changes untill all vacancies are filled. Then MM or Gutekunst or maybe Murphy will hold a press conference and announce all the changes and intro the new hires. 

Revis and Cromartie were good players, no doubt about it. So were Charles Woodson and Tramon Williams. Opening game after winning the SB Brees went  32-49 for 419 and three TDs with a rating of 112.5.  Dom's defense was never able to hold up against the better QBs even when he had the personnel.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Good point. That was a great game to open the season too.

Didn't the defense sell out to stop the run & stuffed the Saints at the Goal line? To end the game?

The play before GB stuffed Ingram to end the game Hawk made a great play to knock down a pass in the end zone and got a BS interference call. Maybe the most athletic play Hawk made in GB. Jumped up and over the reciever to got a hand on the ball. Looked like PI as it happened. It wasn’t though. 

michiganjoe posted:

Mike Pettine’s track record against top QBs a welcome change for Packers defense

Good piece about what will hopefully be a huge change. 

Opposing teams will now have to go over some of the previous teams (Browns, Bills, Jets) to have a hint of what the Packers will do.

I'm simply thrilled we will finally have new tape on defense. It's a minimum 3 years too late.

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