Breer added that Monkey was also the runner-up for the Packers job.
Monkey.
Please hire him.
Geez, did McVince make the top 3 for the Jets job?
No way anyone other than Gutekunst and Murphy know who the GBP "runner-up" was.
Wonder if Gase will keep Kevin Greene on his staff?
Would love to see #91 back here since that kunt Winston Moss was the reason he left. And our OLB were never the same after that...
Oooh...dark horse...OC Marty Mornhinweg just became available.
Part of the Holmgren tree...
I always enjoyed Kevin Greene on the Packer sideline......
Marty would be nice experience on the staff but I'd check the freshness date too.
Monken would be an exceptional get for LaFleur as OC but you have to assume if those two fix the offense the way they're capable of fixing the offense Monken would depart for a HC position in pretty short order.
Loving the toughness the Pack seem to be building. Continue sweeping that stale smell out of 1265 please!
Oh and Double-Yes on Kevin Green please!
From Wilde. As a collective group. Packer Inside Linebackers combined for zero forced fumbles. Zero recovered fumbles. Zero interceptions. And 4 defended passes in 2018. 4 total passes defended combined!!!! That is a special kind of failure.
Yet the interim coach is the guy that finally fired Winston Moss.
So yeah. I’m on board with Kevin Greene.
So a lot of us are agreed....GET THE MEAN KEVIN GREENE BACK. 
This one is a shocker.....
Tom SilversteinVerified account @TomSilverstein 3 minutes ago
The #Packers have terminated passing coordinator Joe Whitt, according to a source.
Says a lot that Mike Pettine likely didn't fight much at seeing another MM cronie outa here.
Isn't all this fresh air amazing?
GreenNgoldBlood posted:This one is a shocker.....
Tom SilversteinVerified account @TomSilverstein 3 minutes ago
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#Packers have terminated passing coordinator Joe Whitt, according to a source.
Pettine must have his own guy in mind.
GreenNgoldBlood posted:This one is a shocker.....
Tom SilversteinVerified account @TomSilverstein 3 minutes ago
The
#Packers have terminated passing coordinator Joe Whitt, according to a source.
Whitt has been pushing for a HC or DC job and the passing coordinator position was a concession after Pettine was hired. My guess is his role was either diminished or just too much friction with Pettine
Goldie posted:So a lot of us are agreed....GET THE MEAN KEVIN GREENE BACK.
"It is time!"
Wow! Very surprised by that. I know holdovers often don’t stay, but I thought he was one that would.
What’s the deal with Coombs? Coming to Green Bay or not? His dad is a good coach. That I know.
I hadn’t heard Greene left because of Moss. Loved that dude in GB.
He left with some generic excuse after being there for a what, a year? It kind of smelled like he didn't fit with the country club. Considering how pissy Moss was after Pettine hire and subsequent shit canning it's not much of reach to think Moss was a royal PIA on that coaching staff.
Henry posted:GreenNgoldBlood posted:This one is a shocker.....
Tom SilversteinVerified account @TomSilverstein 3 minutes ago
The
#Packers have terminated passing coordinator Joe Whitt, according to a source.
Whitt has been pushing for a HC or DC job and the passing coordinator position was a concession after Pettine was hired. My guess is his role was either diminished or just too much friction with Pettine
I don’t know why either because he gave some pretty good news conferences. Also, a lot of key DBs have been injured over the last few years. He sure talked the talk but his stats showed he did not walk the walk. I guess that matters more.
Hard for me to believe OC candidates interviewing with both the Lions and the Packers wouldn't pick the Lions if they got the offer. Lions OC will be calling plays, Packers OC will not.
Henry posted:GreenNgoldBlood posted:This one is a shocker.....
Tom SilversteinVerified account @TomSilverstein 3 minutes ago
The
#Packers have terminated passing coordinator Joe Whitt, according to a source.
Whitt has been pushing for a HC or DC job and the passing coordinator position was a concession after Pettine was hired. My guess is his role was either diminished or just too much friction with Pettine
Per Silverstein:
"Whitt and Pettine worked well together, the source said, and it’s likely the decision to fire Whitt was made by the front office.
Other staff changes are expected to be made and it’s possible the front office is trying to clean house of those with strong ties to McCarthy. The Packers have allowed interim coach Joe Philbin, a close friend of McCarthy’s, to pursue other jobs and it wouldn’t be surprising if he didn’t return."
That's really weird. I can't see how Whitt would be an issue considering he was about the only effective coach on that defensive staff for years. McVince sure didn't do shit with that defense. If he and Pettine had a good working relationship then why is the FO doing the firings? Is LaFleur actually getting the coaches he wants? Was Whitt to tied in with Moss? If that was the case I guess I could possibly understand it but it's still kind of strange.
Pakrz posted:I hadn’t heard Greene left because of Moss. Loved that dude in GB.
Heard from a friend of mine who works for another NFL team and knows support staff within the Packers that Moss hated Greene, and hated the credit he was getting for the development of CM3.
But KG knew MM and WM were tight, and push came to shove, he was getting thrown under the bus. He took the high road and left.
Jesus ****ing Christ. Moss is such a titanic POS. Good job McVince you ****ing putz. Good riddance.
Seriously, the more we find out the more that ****ing guy should've been fired years ago. Jesus ****, what a god damn waste of a generational talent.
Henry posted:That's really weird. I can't see how Whitt would be an issue considering he was about the only effective coach on that defensive staff for years. McVince sure didn't do shit with that defense. If he and Pettine had a good working relationship then why is the FO doing the firings? Is LaFleur actually getting the coaches he wants? Was Whitt to tied in with Moss? If that was the case I guess I could possibly understand it but it's still kind of strange.
I think your first thought was probably closer to the truth. Whitt might be a holdover, but realistically there's no place for him to move up. I hope it's that anyway. Just when so many seemingly positive events are occurring, seeing Whitt was fired is a big wtf. I'd rather believe he's bound to get a dc job and it wasn't happening in GB.
I wouldn't call Whitt effective. How many times with Randall and Rollins it seemed one was playing zone and the other man to man? How many times did we see WR running wide open down the center of the field and not a DB in sight? Guys were passed off to.........no one. Too many for my likes. Just because Alexander and King when healthy looked good, that doesn't mean Whitt had anything to do with it. I'm glad he is gone.
Whitt developed talent out of UDFAs and was tasked with making safeties into CBs.
By your reasoning Campen is worthless too.
Also, Whitt wasn't calling or designing the defenses.
We still saw way to much poor tackling technique. Nobody wrapped up, just hitting with the shoulder hoping they would go down. I guess we will agree to disagree. I'm glad he is gone.
Whitt made his hay off of Tramon and Sam Shields, then had Charles Woodson there who would make any coach look good. Beyond that a lot of "what ifs" and "WTF's" . Was that him or just some bad talent ?
Woodson said Whitt was an excellent coach. Said that like a year ago I think.
Woodson knows. The truth will always come out eventually.
GreenNgoldBlood posted:This one is a shocker.....
Tom SilversteinVerified account @TomSilverstein 3 minutes ago
The
#Packers have terminated passing coordinator Joe Whitt, according to a source.
Whoah! That one is a surprise.
I understand the numbers were not great but I thought Witt was one of GBs better coaches. He looked like a coach that did not let things slide. I don’t see him as one of the staff that would allow complacency. So, I thought he would be retained. If this decision was indeed a FO decision I think it may have been a bit too hasty.
Henry posted:Jesus ****ing Christ. Moss is such a titanic POS. Good job McVince you ****ing putz. Good riddance.
Seriously, the more we find out the more that ****ing guy should've been fired years ago. Jesus ****, what a god damn waste of a generational talent.
I’ve been calling for Mr. Fat-n-Happy to be fired for years. He ain’t worth a ****.
Packdog posted:Whitt made his hay off of Tramon and Sam Shields, then had Charles Woodson there who would make any coach look good. Beyond that a lot of "what ifs" and "WTF's" . Was that him or just some bad talent ?
No doubt 21 and Tramon, Collins, Shields et al were luxuries to have, but Shields was from scratch. He and TW and Peprah all showed up big in crunch time. That was as much being coached up as it was the talent they all had. And since that stellar unit splintered off, idk that it's fair to say Whitt was terrible. There's no denying bad technique, missed assignments and such, but the majority of time this secondary is depleted. Writing a new recipe nearly every week will expose some things. I'd also mention the group in front of them, which has been an utter mess since Kevin Greene split. And far too many times whoever was healthy that week was expected to cover for 5,6, 8 seconds at a clip. That one factor has been a major burden on the secondary for years. Whitt was by no means irreplaceable, but after what I feel was a giant step forward this week, to me it was a head scratcher. And the argument could also be made both ways regarding Hyde and Heyward. Did they turn into pro bowlers overnight due to new locale and coaching, or did Whitt have anything to do with bringing them to that point? The stale i believe affected every aspect of this team, slowly but surely. And if Whitt was part of it, maybe they felt they needed to cut him loose. I do think he got more out of less than any other position coach in the past 5 years, though.
Not being in meetings and on the field for practices, it is really difficult to know which position coaches are good teachers, which is really what they have to be. Even the best teachers have some students who fail, hard to tell if it is the teacher or the pupil.
ammo posted:We still saw way to much poor tackling technique. Nobody wrapped up, just hitting with the shoulder hoping they would go down. I guess we will agree to disagree. I'm glad he is gone.
We saw poor tackling across the entirety of The Wizard's defense. Everyone was flopping around because nobody knew where to be half of the time.