pduck posted:
This guy also:
- mentions the Packers don't do a good job retaining their own.
- says they need CB help because they are likely to lose Hayward.
- says they need OLB help because Peppers is getting old - doesn't mention what they have or the young FA's (Neal & Perry) they could retain.
- mentions they need OL help specifically at G and OT.
I think this guy got some of these right.
I think if history tells us anything:
1. Thompson doesn't have patterns. He lives and dies by the board. If the board offers what he needs then he takes it, if it doesn't then he trades. If the best player available is an ILB then he will take him.
2. Draft "gurus" outside of the big boys like Mayock are generally wrong...especially this far from the draft. We haven't finished the Senior Bowl, so I doubt the Packers board is close to finished.
Seems TT would rather have early down run stuffer ilb and then let a sub package player come in for passing downs. Not saying it's right or wrong, just seems to be the way they do things.
It's odd that a ten year NFL backup linebacker wouldn't have better read on linebackers.
bvan posted:It's odd that a ten year NFL backup linebacker wouldn't have better read on linebackers.
Cobblers kid's are shoeless...
Damn. That China Food is addicting down there ain't it?
Reggie Ragland weighed in at 259 because he "ate too much" after CFP title game. Told me he'll be under 255 for combine, maybe under 250.
The Lacy diet
bvan posted:True, but the Cobbler should still know how to make 'em.
Go to the barber with the bad hair cut.
Ted wasn't a starter though right? I thought he was basically the high effort, scrappy STs player...basically the Jarrett Bush or the Chris Banjo for his team. Maybe he's looking for LBs who are just like him: backups.
You draft 1 AJ Hawk, you don't ever do that again
To be fair, Hawk was initially drafted as a 4-3 WLB, where he was also a stiff.
I never thought he was a stiff in the 43. I thought he had his best seasons in that role. The defense overall was suspect, especially in 2008, but he was actually one of the solid players on that D. He's a perfect example of how not all LBs are created equal...just because you're 6'2"/240 like Hawk doesn't mean you make a good ILB in a 34. Some guys are better suited for certain schemes, Hawk was brutally out of place.
Hawk was brutal.
At the end.
He was a solid player at first and probably doesn't get the credit he deserves (at least from me) for being a good player for awhile. It was just that he was so bad (and so damn bad) at the end, it overshadows much of his accomplishments. He should not have been on the field.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Hawk was brutal.
At the end.
He was a solid player at first and probably doesn't get the credit he deserves (at least from me) for being a good player for awhile.
Gee... ya think? 
It wasn't easy.
Dom Capers still sucks
Hawk is a huge reason why I ignore measurables at the combine for ILBs. Take a look at the two sets of stats below from pro day/combines.
Size: 6' 1" 248 lbs 6' 3" 242 lbs
40 yd dash: 4.59 4.58
10 yd split: 1.56 1.63
20 yd shuttle: 3.96 4.12
3 cone: 6.82 6.92
Broadjump: 9' 7" 10' 3"
Vert: 40 in 38.1 in
Bench: 24 reps 27 reps
First is Hawk, second is Luke Kuechly. Yeah, measurables on an ILB mean ****. Instincts are everything at that position.
How important are instincts? Denzel Perryman, who I thought had the best instincts in the draft, missed 3 games this year and still would have led all Packers ILBs in Tackles and Sacks. That's not to say I'm criticising TT for not getting Perryman, but he just can't seem to find a guy who knows how to play ILB. Get a LB who knows how to play LB.
CUPackFan posted:Hawk is a huge reason why I ignore measurables at the combine for ILBs. Take a look at the two sets of stats below from pro day/combines.
(SNIP)
First is Hawk, second is Luke Kuechly. Yeah, measurables on an ILB mean ****. Instincts are everything at that position.
Neat trick. Now pick 2 ILBers projected in the 2nd round of the upcoming draft & tell us which one will be merely adequate & which one will be a stud.
And then tell me why fedya thinks his jokes are funny
They only need to be funnier than your attempts at humor, which isn't saying much.
We are protected by the enormity of your stupidity, for a time.
Without the inspiration.
FinnLander posted:CUPackFan posted:Hawk is a huge reason why I ignore measurables at the combine for ILBs. Take a look at the two sets of stats below from pro day/combines.
(SNIP)
First is Hawk, second is Luke Kuechly. Yeah, measurables on an ILB mean ****. Instincts are everything at that position.
Neat trick. Now pick 2 ILBers projected in the 2nd round of the upcoming draft & tell us which one will be merely adequate & which one will be a stud.
Antonio Morrisson and Joe Schobert will be studs. Scooby Wright will be a dud. Mark it down.
Hawk showed outstanding athletic ability at Ohio State and when he first came to Green Bay. The groin injury he had in 2008 seemed to be a big blow to his career...he never ran the same after that.
I call this the one-name special:
PackerJoe posted:Hawk showed outstanding athletic ability at Ohio State and when he first came to Green Bay. The groin injury he had in 2008 seemed to be a big blow to his career...he never ran the same after that.
His backpedalling speed increased as he got older
I like this kid in mid rounds
Pikes Peak posted:PackerJoe posted:Hawk showed outstanding athletic ability at Ohio State and when he first came to Green Bay. The groin injury he had in 2008 seemed to be a big blow to his career...he never ran the same after that.
His backpedalling speed increased as he got older
Only when tackling at the first down marker.
Good find FL! Crazy second gear!
Rusty posted:I call this the one-name special:
27: R1P27ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA57: R2P26OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA88: R3P25TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD122: R4P27DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS151: R5P24OLB JOE SCHOBERT WISCONSIN182: R6P25CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA216: R7P27G PARKER EHINGER CINCINNATI
I need a towel now.
Tyler Ervin is a younger James Starks. One cut, not much wiggle, upright runner, solid speed.
I see Ervin as smaller, more elusive , & more explosive than Starks.
Ervin projects to fifth or sixth round. Value pick.
