Official 2023 Draft Thread

So...you want to draft a TE in the 1st round.

Here's a little history lesson from the internet

Really an interesting article from Bill Polian at the 33rd Team

Talks about the final stages of draft prep and setting the board. He also delves into some of the testing and how they used it

https://www.the33rdteam.com/ca...r-final-draft-board/

"The fourth section of the report covered test results, which measured the ability to learn and retain complicated information, spatial awareness, processing speed and an overall evaluation by our team psychologist. This is critical information that is not and should not be available to the media or fans. The tests are all proprietary and their implementation varies throughout all 32 teams.

For quarterbacks, these test results are as important as the physical traits.

Let’s deal with two such wives’ tales here. They are the importance of the Wonderlic test and arm strength. One measures mental acuity and the other is an important physical trait.

Throughout my career, we used the Wonderlic test as a diagnostic tool and not a measurable one. If a player had difficulty reading or some other learning-related condition, it would show up on the test. That told us we needed to do further work on the player, and it never disqualified anyone. "

So, if Jalen Carter would be available when the Packers have their first pick at 13 or 15, would you draft him?  

Well, he's from Georgia and the last three first-round picks have been from Georgia, so it wouldn't be a surprise. He or Broderick Jones, if available.

@Packy posted:

So, if Jalen Carter would be available when the Packers have their first pick at 13 or 15, would you draft him?  

Yes.

Damn, just trade away the third, although TT was not exactly great with it, either.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...-round-draft-history

Yeah...the 3rd is unfortunately a bad stain on BG's draft record...it's not too late to turn it around, though...no more mistakes...don't gamble with those picks.

@Packy posted:

So, if Jalen Carter would be available when the Packers have their first pick at 13 or 15, would you draft him?  

If the Packers are convinced he will leave his ghetto ways behind, sure.
He's a helluva player.
But they can't be dealing with another Johnny Jolly.

It hurts like hell to show this, but...the best season ever by a rookie tight end belongs to....  and it was his best season as a pro...isn't that interesting?

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/a...ight-end-in-a-season

In a 14 game season.

@Packmeister posted:

Yes.

we won't be able to interview him before the draft, he's not talking to teams outside of pick 10...his agent may torpedo his stock here - I guess no teams are able to trade up within 10 to pick him...stupid.  character issues breed character issues...

Not Packer People.

Packers host ECU's Keaton Mitchell for a visit. His athleticism is off the charts...

That little Smurf has a nice highlight reel

Like a better version of Tyler Goodson

Jalen Carter is a pain in the ass. The organization is going to have to work hard to keep him on the straight and narrow. Yet he is worth it. Why? Because the guy is a pain in the ass to offensive linemen. With the kid on the field those offensive linemen never get a break.

If Carter drops below the Bears pick go get him.

@Chongo posted:

Packers host ECU's Keaton Mitchell for a visit. His athleticism is off the charts...

We need dudes like this to go back to MLF’s jet sweep principles.

He’s Johnny Z approved.

Gute is going to trade one of the 2nds (if Jets trade goes down) and his 3rd round pick to move up and take the Hiatt kid from Tennessee. He won't be there at his pick in the 2nd.

@pkr_north posted:

we won't be able to interview him before the draft, he's not talking to teams outside of pick 10...his agent may torpedo his stock here - I guess no teams are able to trade up within 10 to pick him...stupid.  character issues breed character issues...

True...it's not likely he's there at #15, either. If he is, that will be a hard decision to pass on him. The thing is, he's not making it easier for teams to like him.

@Goalline posted:

We need dudes like this to go back to MLF’s jet sweep principles.

I think the Packers already "drafted" that dude back in December

Bo Melton

https://twitter.com/i/status/1494282653041844229

I must admit Bo Melton is one of those players I have simply ignored. I didn’t know anything about him.

@Goalline posted:

I must admit Bo Melton is one of those players I have simply ignored. I didn’t know anything about him.

Every year in December, the Packers front office snags a few guys from around the league and brings them to town. If you look at the transactions page - you'll see it.

https://www.packers.com/team/transactions/2022

Lots of roster shuffling at year- end and some of them turn out to be decent additions. Others are guys GB wants to get their hands on and develop in the offseason.

So rather than grabbing these players in March-May, they grab em in December and can then send them out into the world with a Packers- specific development plan over the winter. 

Yes, but did Melton work out with Love? 

@Goalline posted:

We need dudes like this to go back to MLF’s jet sweep principles.

Tyler Ervin type

DFH

I found it interesting that Hendon Hooker and Stetson Bennett are a year older than Jordan Love and Will Levis is only 6 months younger.

Incredible to me that there are guys being drafted this year who are the same age or older than our guy who has been in the league for 3 years.

https://www.acmepackingcompany...don-hooker-for-visit

@vitaflo posted:

I found it interesting that Hendon Hooker and Stetson Bennett are a year older than Jordan Love and Will Levis is only 6 months younger.

Incredible to me that there are guys being drafted this year who are the same age or older than our guy who has been in the league for 3 years.

And that's why it's best if some of these guys sit and learn if they are going to come out as early as many have. I don't know why you'd take a guy like Fields and toss him to the wolves immediately; he has potential, but he'll probably never realize his full potential. It's pretty rare to find a QB who's mature enough on a playing level, on a game-understanding level, and on a personal level if they are as young as Love was when drafted. Some are ready physically but not mentally, and vice versa. Even then it takes at least a year or more for the gifted guys to start to shine. Lawrence, for example. To top it off, they have to land with the right coach. Purdy may not even be in the league if he didn't have Shanahan.

My mock for the day...with all the playmakers off the board (Smith-Njigba, Quentin Johnson, Van Ness, Myles Murphy, Tyree Wilson, Gonzalez, and Witherspoon), Skoronski is too good to pass up. With his versatility, he solidifies the entire OLine.

So they are going to play with a 1 man line?

1 guy that weighs about 1,600 pounds and blocks 6 or 7 defenders by himself.

Going to be amazing seeing MLF's offense run like it's supposed to.

Relative Positional Values in the draft -  there really are premium positions

https://twitter.com/KevinCole_...221238464514/photo/1

If they get Mingo at 78, I'll juice my jammies

That sounds similar to icing cookies.

Then you are doing it wrong.

Mingo fits the Packers profile:

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• Has had issues with consistency and has had a number of focus drops

Top Reasons For Concern:

• Can he catch the ball away from his body?

He looks to have some Antonio Freeman to him in he catches more with his body and in tight at times and he doesn't seem to have a great catch radius.

The bigger concern for the Packers might be watching the Alabama game where he was a total pusscake as a blocker and a lollygagger as a decoy too many times.

All that being accurate....I think some team will take him before 78.

Although I will say a 3rd rounder "busting" for the Pack would be about right 😭

Still searching for a lolly gagging gif.

Maybe make sure "Safesearch" is on.