Edge guy.
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I saw him push Notre Dame’s Jarrett Patterson 10 yards into the goal post in one-on-ones, and if there were any questions on his ability to overpower interior guys, all he did was answer them at the Senior Bowl. I expected him to rise, and any NFL club in search of an interior mover that can play all three downs should have him high on their board. He was fantastic."
Nikko will be a good player for someone...won't be the Packers. Listed there at 5'11...that is generous. Probably closer to 5'10"...wouldn't surprise me to see him measure at 5'9.5" at the combine. Won't fit the Packers size requirements.
Packers swung and missed badly on Amari...but I feel like size wasn't his problem, it was first off he never fully recovered from his ACL and came in fat, and then just lacked confidence and the ability to track the ball.
Size doesn't make you muff punts or fumble balls.
I realize this is a lot of picks, but wouldn't a haul like this be nice?
Myles Murphy.
Funny thing about this review is they contradict themselves (and it's not just this one player, either) regarding his hand use...
I've seen Jalin Hyatt projected as low as the 4th round...SMH. With a great combine, he may end up being first WR off the board. Kid is an absolute stud.
Hyatt catches using his hands well and looks like he has some speed, but he will need to learn to stick a foot in the ground and really sharpen his route running. They don't show him getting off the line in the video so it's hard to tell how he releases, but it mostly looks like he has good speed and field awareness.
@Chongo posted:I've seen Jalin Hyatt projected as low as the 4th round...SMH. With a great combine, he may end up being first WR off the board. Kid is an absolute stud.
He'd look really good across from Watson...
That is a helluva draft but 13 new guys would be like 1/4 of the roster if they all stuck. They'd probably bundle some later rounds to move up somewhere.
And if they didn't all stick = Gutey sucks.
@DH13 posted:That is a helluva draft but 13 new guys would be like 1/4 of the roster if they all stuck. They'd probably bundle some later rounds to move up somewhere.
Yeah. I know...that's too many...just fitting them all under the rookie cap would be a challenge. Adding picks into next year would also be an option.
@DH13 posted:That is a helluva draft but 13 new guys would be like 1/4 of the roster if they all stuck. They'd probably bundle some later rounds to move up somewhere.
It's not as if that's stopped him before, though. He's drafted more CHUD offensive linemen lately than could be kept between the roster and practice squad. The depth is pretty poor at most positions and a single injury to a starter outside of maybe D-Line can derail the team.
@Chongo posted:I've seen Jalin Hyatt projected as low as the 4th round...SMH. With a great combine, he may end up being first WR off the board. Kid is an absolute stud.
Yeah, it's one of those things that will sort itself out after the combine, I think. He doesn't have elite size, nor is he as smooth as Olave was, but otherwise he's got a heck of a skillset and showed out with some decent QB play.
Of course it's all theoretical, but it would be interesting to see what the Packers do if they get either the Raider's or Jet's first round pick.
@DocBenni posted:Of course it's all theoretical, but it would be interesting to see what the Packers do if they get either the Raider's or Jet's first round pick.
My guess with a pick that high is likely a pass rusher (since Gary is on the shelf for a bit) or OT that can step right in and play a la Bulaga. Possibly an impact safety.
Texas Tech edge Tyree Wilson, Ohio State OT Paris Johnson, Northwestern OT Pete Skoronski, Clemson Edge Myles Murphy or Bama S Brian Branch are names to look for at #7 (Raiders).
@Herschel posted:It's not as if that's stopped him before, though. He's drafted more CHUD offensive linemen lately than could be kept between the roster and practice squad. The depth is pretty poor at most positions and a single injury to a starter outside of maybe D-Line can derail the team.
...and we could finally jettison the guys who aren't performing.
@Chongo posted:Texas Tech edge Tyree Wilson, ...
I have to admit, I don't see the Tyree Wilson as a top pick OLB hype. He's big (listed 6'6" 276#) and he's strong, but I don't see an elite burst or bend in him, even in highlights. Maybe it's an illusion due to his size, but I don't think so. He never seems to get lower than his blocker. He could just bully most college linemen, but pro blockers will be stronger and have better technique.
Lukas Van Ness (listed 6'5" 275#) appears to be similar guy, not quite as strong, but a better get off.
I prefer Isaiah Foskey to both of them. He gives up a good ten pounds, but he's still listed at 6'5" 265#, still has very good power and has a better burst than either of them.
Sean Tucker from Syracuse...potential down the road replacement for 33
Pack should embrace a “always draft the Wisconsin linebacker” philosophy
That would seem to be a key to being in the Superb Owl. It's much easier than finding a Kelce.
I certainly wouldn't mind a late rounder on Nick Herbig.
First Round is going to be interesting; my "guess" would be one of the following ;
1. One of the edge rushers talked about above ; Wilson , Van Ness, or Foskey (Anderson / Murphy should be gone by 15).
2. Safety Branch from Alabama.
3. If Bak comes back, and Tom looking like tackle may be his best position, I don't know if taking an OT with this pick is best
4. If rated fairly evenly, and Gut thinks he can get one of them later in the round, I could see him trade back into later in round to get higher in second round to guarantee he could get the TE he wants?
....of course this means that Gut will actually trade up in the First Round to get an OT.
If Rodgers was traded to the Jets, it might well be a package deal with Bakhtiari since keeping Becton healthy has been a major issue in New York.
I think he's going to Vegas and the #7 pick is in play.
**But agree that Bak may get moved as well if 12 is traded.
@Pakrz posted:I think he's going to Vegas and the #7 pick is in play.
**But agree that Bak may get moved as well if 12 is traded.
I think all of Rodgers' buddies will probably be gone, if Rodgers leaves, for whatever reason. Cobb, Bakh, Lewis, Tonyan and maybe even Jones, could exit GB. Now that the SB is over, and the next big thing is the Draft, we should see who stays and who leaves the Packers roster. Everyone says we need an Edge Rusher and a TE, this draft. I agree, but those ideas may change, if we need to restock our O Line, again, due to holes all over it. Myers should be forced to compete for his job at C. Sean Rhyan should be forced to compete for anything. Same goes for our rookies, in Caleb Jones and Rasheed Walker, who did not, or barely saw, the field last season. Hoping that Gute brings some magic to the off season, as we will need it.
They're going to need a S or two too.
I can see a scenario where Crosby goes as well.
BPA
MIA is more like it
I don't agree with BPA as a hard rule. Pass up Barry Sanders to draft Tony Mandarich?
That's where positional value doesn't equate to best player, and/or the scouting department is inept at properly evaluating players.
@Packmeister posted:I don't agree with BPA as a hard rule. Pass up Barry Sanders to draft Tony Mandarich?
Did you have to remind me?
I know, right?
In the 1981 draft, we took Rich Campbell overt Ronnie Lott....
In the 1979 draft, we took two running backs in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Eddie Lee Ivery was a good pick, but his career was cut short due to injuries. Steve Atkins was the second running back taken ( a shotgun draft at RB?). Atkins never really did anything as a pro.
Joe Montana went at the end of the 3rd round.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
And if wishes were Lombardis, Packer fans would... still gripe about who we didn't select.
I'm just pointing out missteps in value and more importantly, player evaluation. Granted, those examples are from the 70's 80's era, and much has changed. But, it's fair to assess the scouting dept. and ask how well they are performing. How do they rate vs. other scouting departments?
Speaking of mistakes….FROM THE Onion
