@Packmeister posted:I'm not enamored with Quentin Johnson. Yes, he had a great season, and he was big vs. Michigan and Kansas State. He disappeared in the championship, however. I'd say TE is a bigger need, and if given the choice between Johnson and Mayer, I would pick Mayer...he'll be a much bigger factor in the red zone, which is where this team has struggled.
Drafting a TE in the first round is risky business.
@SteveLuke posted:it would be as intriguing as hell to see if Joe Barry could somehow eke out a top half of the league finish in 2023 with just 9 (count em 9) 1st round picks on his defense.
Mmmmmm doubt it. Just setting up Robert Saleh with plenty of personnel when he’s our DC in a year or two after he doesn’t win a SB with Rodgers!
@Pakrz posted:Drafting a TE in the first round is risky business.
Not if you get the top slide available!
If Rodgers wants to play two or three more seasons and restructures, what would you take for Love? Say they would get Tanner McKee in the late first as Rodgers' heir after a trade back, how about Seattle offering both seconds?
For Love?
So what is the restructure? And it has to be realistic, not some pie in the sky numbers.
@Pikes Peak posted:For Love?
Yes. If Rodgers plays 2-3 more seasons and assuming someone wants to make Love their starter next year.
Per Spotrac, his cap hit is $31.6 million this year, which is less than Mahomes, Allen, Watson, Prescott, Matt Ryan, Carr, Tannehill, and comparable with Jared Goff and Joey Bosa. Carr's and Ryan's hit will likely decrease after relocation, of course, and Joe Burrow is likely to enter the Mahomes and Allen tier at some point this year, as is Lamar Jackson.
That's not too bad, but escalates to over $40m next season and almost $60m in 2025. I suppose with a big enough rise in the cap they could ride through 2024 and he could retire after June 1st of 2025. He could exit with Bakhtiari, if he plays out his contract.
Even if they grab another QB in Round 1, three seconds is a lot to work with, though Gutekunst's track record leads me to think it's just as likely to end up as two first-rounders anyway. Seattle has 37 and 51, so a combo of two might get them in the 17-21 range, depending on which two. In theory, all three could get them to #9, but wouldn't increase their number of picks.
Today's No-trade draft...highly unlikely, but a fun exercise.
Jalen Cropper has such a smooth release. Watch his hand usage here to create acres of space. His ability to get open makes quarterbacks jobs much easier. pic.twitter.com/sJB0BGTUCx
— Joe Cammarota (@jcamo4) January 29, 2023
With the Shrine Game and Senior Bowl in high gear we’ll have more info to go on soon.
Cropper will get shit on by "experts," but he reminds a lot of people at Fresno State of Davante. He was also roundly considered a much better player than Doubs by coaches in the MWC, and we see how well that turned out.
@Packmeister posted:Today's No-trade draft...highly unlikely, but a fun exercise.
Just saying, I did a mock, yesterday, and I got Brian Branch, in the 7th Round with our last pick. Took Mayer in the 1st round and also picked up Darnell Washington, in the 4th round.
Are you sure you didn't get Battle, the other Alabama safety in the 7th? Branch is a First Round selection on almost every board
To get one of this year's draft's best DB's and surest tacklers in the 7th round would be awesome!
...not going to happen, though...lol
Washington in the 4th is a much better likelihood, and a very good value there.
I'm getting the sneaking suspicion Green Bay will be looking at a QB fairly early if one of the current QBs move, regardless. If Rodgers moves on they'll want to hedge their bets and if Love moves on they'll want a new "heir".
@Packmeister posted:Today's No-trade draft.. .highly unlikely, but a fun exercise.
Poor Fosky. Whatever happened to that guy anyway?
Not sure, really. It depends on whose board you're looking at. He's #16 on TDN's board, #83 on PFF's, and #38 over at DraftBuzz.
@Herschel posted:I'm getting the sneaking suspicion Green Bay will be looking at a QB fairly early if one of the current QBs move, regardless. If Rodgers moves on they'll want to hedge their bets and if Love moves on they'll want a new "heir".
I think they have to draft a QB this year, as well.
@Packmeister posted:Not sure, really. It depends on whose board you're looking at. He's #16 on TDN's board, #83 on PFF's, and #38 over at DraftBuzz.
It was a joke, seeing as how you had us picking him in the 3rd round.
I am curious as to why the difference in grades from mid 1st to late 3rd...
@Herschel posted:With the Shrine Game and Senior Bowl in high gear we’ll have more info to go on soon.
https://shrinebowl.com/2023-accepted-invites/ This Thursday
https://thedraftnetwork.com/se...invites-commitments/
Saturday
My friends at Fresno State telling be Haener has been balling out at the Senior Bowl. Used to think he was going to be a career backup, but watching Brock Purdy be successful, I think he's got a real shot with the right team.
Really solid day for Fresno State quarterback Jake Haener at the Senior Bowl.
— Crissy Froyd (@crissy_froyd) January 31, 2023
Impressive ball placement and accuracy at multiple levels of the field. Haener was 9-of-14 in one-on-ones and 11-of-14 in team.
I see Darnell Washington on more and more draft boards for the Pack. While I like it I don't want to attract to much attention to him. The bears or vikes will snatch him just for spite. And again I think he will be long gone by the 4th maybe even the 3rd. I have a FEELING about him! 
This kid isn't draft eligible until 2024...but he will be the first TE taken off the board next year...barring injury.
He'd be the first taken this year as a 20 year old.
O/U on YaTit sharing the draft profile of Diaby, Lousville?
Haener balling out at Senior Bowl...my guess is he will ascend to a round the Packers will have other needs in.
Happy for him, he was wrecked because of a garbage OL vs USC, was supposed to be out for the season, but battled back to take the team from 1-4 to finish 10-4.
@FresnoStateFB QB Jake Haener has some zip on the ball throwing across his body @jakehaener10 pic.twitter.com/zu37eTCeLa
— College Football Transfer Portal (@CollegeFBPortal) February 1, 2023
Take him with pick #13? 
@Packmeister posted:Take him with pick #13?
Do we really want to “ruffle Love’s feathers” by doing that???
By Jove, better get Rodgers, Love, and the janitor in on those discussions!
Jerry Gray to the Falcons.
@Chongo posted:Haener balling out at Senior Bowl...my guess is he will ascend to a round the Packers will have other needs in.
Happy for him, he was wrecked because of a garbage OL vs USC, was supposed to be out for the season, but battled back to take the team from 1-4 to finish 10-4.
@FresnoStateFB QB Jake Haener has some zip on the ball throwing across his body @jakehaener10 pic.twitter.com/zu37eTCeLa
— College Football Transfer Portal (@CollegeFBPortal) February 1, 2023
Take him in the 3rd... he wouldn't be expected to play for a couple years, so by then the football gods will have forgotten he was a Gutey 3rd.
@Packmeister posted:Not sure, really. It depends on whose board you're looking at. He's #16 on TDN's board, #83 on PFF's, and #38 over at DraftBuzz.
This is exactly why we need a facepalm reaction emoji.
Why won't the mods give us a facepalm reaction emoji?!
What does that mean, exactly?
