Weird, itβs like all the people who know and have actually spoken to Rodgers have said itβs solvable and he will be back and all the people who stand to profit off the drama have been saying otherwiseβ¦
A.J. Hawk spent a week with Aaron Rodgers, expects him to report to Packers. https://t.co/rUCNQWMjlB
β ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 15, 2021
unless 12 speaks out on this subject and is definitive one way or another he will always now be a wimp in my estimation. he really needed to just say what the story was from the start. He has lost cache for sure with many fans.
@Timmy! posted:It's an idea, but of no benefit to the players that actually don't consume.
Yeah, no benefit at all. Well, besides the obvious benefits of getting vaccinated.
Itβs still a beautiful mystery.
Rodgers is very measured with what he says, when he says it, and how he says it. I don't see that as being a wimp. I expect he will do well in business when he retires from playing a game.
He made a statement in the post NFCCG presser. He's said very little since (publicly) as there is little value to do so from a business perspective.
This, is fucking hilarious. There really was never another option for Rodgers for 2021.
@Grave Digger posted:Weird, itβs like all the people who know and have actually spoken to Rodgers have said itβs solvable and he will be back and all the people who stand to profit off the drama have been saying otherwiseβ¦
A.J. Hawk spent a week with Aaron Rodgers, expects him to report to Packers. https://t.co/rUCNQWMjlB
β ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 15, 2021
WOULD SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR PLAYERS!
Jesus, quoting PFT now?
Well theyβre just providing a quote, unless youβre saying that AJ Hawk also canβt be believed? Or can Rodgers not believed? Only Schefter can be believed?
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Adam Schefter talking about the Aaron Rodgers situation pic.twitter.com/sHhz6sgSvD
β π½πΈπ ππ΄πΆπΎ π§ (@BigMack_4) July 16, 2021
Schefter's career as a credible sports reporter may have jumped the shark this year.
@Grave Digger posted:Well theyβre just providing a quote, unless youβre saying that AJ Hawk also canβt be believed? Or can Rodgers not believed? Only Schefter can be believed?
You mean kind of like when they provided the quote from Murphy you found the need to criticize as coming from PFT?
Pick a lane.
Ian Rapaport is a bot.
Now, IF Rodgers does decide to show up and he does this same shit next offseason, his schtick will be ten times worse than Favres retirement talk ever was
10 times worse?
Time heals all wounds.
Week 1 Saints/Packers news:
However, the Packers will also face a Saints team without one of its key interior defenders in that contest. On Friday, defensive tackle David Onyemata announced on Instagram that he had tested positive for a banned substance and will serve a suspension under the NFLβs performance-enhancing drugs policy.
@YooperPackfan posted:Now, IF Rodgers does decide to show up and he does this same shit next offseason, his schtick will be ten times worse than Favres retirement talk ever was
What shit exactly has he done this offseason?
He said his future was not in his hands - beautiful mystery.
He took some trips, played some golf, got himself mentally strong, and said βIβm going to enjoy the hell out of this week,β Rodgers said, βand then Iβm going to get back to working out, and figure things out in a couple weeks.β
@Henry posted:You mean kind of like when they provided the quote from Murphy you found the need to criticize as coming from PFT?
Pick a lane.
Ian Rapaport is a bot.
I don't recall that, but then again I don't really care so...
@Grave Digger posted:I don't recall that, but then again I don't really care so...
That's why I'm here to remind you.
when i read that, it was Alanis Morissette in my head....thanks for that.
Isn't it ironic . . . don't you think?
90's ear worms. I kind of want to punch myself in the face for typing that.
@H5 posted:Rodgers is very measured with what he says, when he says it, and how he says it. I don't see that as being a wimp. I expect he will do well in business when he retires from playing a game.
Then he may want to think twice about being a holdout in training camp. Other business interests aren't going to like someone who just decides not to show up when they're contractually obligated to do so.
I have to assume he's smart enough to know this and the optics of it and thus he'll show up for camp, and will probably go with some snarky "don't believe everything you hear in the media" to the media to sweep it all under the rug until after the season.
Yes, just like why can't the gubmint balance the budget just like I balance my checkbook.
Do you honestly believe any business interest is going view a superstar QB contract dispute as a no show at work?
@H5 posted:What shit exactly has he done this offseason?
He said his future was not in his hands - beautiful mystery.
He took some trips, played some golf, got himself mentally strong, and said βIβm going to enjoy the hell out of this week,β Rodgers said, βand then Iβm going to get back to working out, and figure things out in a couple weeks.β
Which would mean it's more plausible that it was all a creation of the media, correct?
Wow. Yes, the entire thing is a complete fabrication.
Regardless of all the color commentary, it's pretty clear there's an issue between Rodgers and the dumbfucks in the FO.
@vitaflo the holdout story was always media speculation, likely fueled by Rodgers agent in an attempt to get the commitment Aaron wants.
@artis creation some, but also lots of exaggeration. Rodgers planted a seed with his comments back on Jan 25th... from there the media supposed a lot, and those suppositions often were exaggerated
To me this Rodgersβ drama was not drummed up by the media. When he skipped minicamp and never communicated his intentions to skip minicamp to Packersβ management, it was a huge slap in the face to the Packersβ organization.
Youβre the face of the franchise and getting paid tens of millions of dollars and you canβt communicate to your employer your intentions to skip minicamp so you could run around Hawaii with Miles Teller? Thatβs not media hype to me, thatβs real.
I find it weird that even as a partial Milwaukee Bucks owner he isnβt coming to any home games like he used to. Is he afraid of getting booed? Heβs behaved very weirdly this off-season and the media coverage heβs generated is his own doing, the media didnβt just come up with this stuff on their own.
@Henry posted:Wow. Yes, the entire thing is a complete fabrication.
Regardless of all the color commentary, it's pretty clear there's an issue between Rodgers and the dumbfucks in the FO.
The "issue" is and always has been about commitment beyond '21. The only dumbfuck in the FO is Murphy, but that's not some recent revelation. He exposed his limitations with the ill conceived $20mm offer to Favre.
Mostly agree. That is a pretty big issue nonetheless but I fail to believe that's the only one.
Ball is a complete dumbfuck btw and has shown just as much as Murphy when it comes to said dumbfuckery. About the only guy I like in the FO is Hendrickson. To me, Gunt was a stooge hiring.
@fightphoe93 posted:To me this Rodgersβ drama was not drummed up by the media. When he skipped minicamp and never communicated his intentions to skip minicamp to Packersβ management, it was a huge slap in the face to the Packersβ organization.
Youβre the face of the franchise and getting paid tens of millions of dollars and you canβt communicate to your employer your intentions to skip minicamp so you could run around Hawaii with Miles Teller? Thatβs not media hype to me, thatβs real.
I find it weird that even as a partial Milwaukee Bucks owner he isnβt coming to any home games like he used to. Is he afraid of getting booed? Heβs behaved very weirdly this off-season and the media coverage heβs generated is his own doing, the media didnβt just come up with this stuff on their own.
Almost sounds like you're assigning some accountability to Rodgers? Pretty sure that's frowned upon on X4. I mean- he's the face of the franchise, team leader, bigger than those chumps at OTAs, and you expect him to act like a professional or something? That takes some nerve! 
@artis posted:Almost sounds like you're assigning some accountability to Rodgers? Pretty sure that's frowned upon on X4.
If the last 31 pages of this thread has taught me anything, itβs that you are a lone wolf in criticism of Rodgers.
@artis posted:Almost sounds like you're assigning some accountability to Rodgers? Pretty sure that's frowned upon on X4. I mean- he's the face of the franchise, team leader, bigger than those chumps at OTAs, and you expect him to act like a professional or something? That takes some nerve!
@Thunderbird posted:10 times worse?
Time heals all wounds.
Times 4 heals all wounds...
Good article here detailing just how bad Kevin King and P. Smith were last season
I actually trust Football Outsiders.
I gave P Smith a pass but that's pretty bad. I'm chocking it up to one of those shitty seasons but considering the contract he better play like he did the first year he was here.
King, nothing to say really. I get the feeling he'll still be the starter (if he doesn't get hurt) at the beginning of the season. I'd be nice if Stokes progressed enough to start taking snaps away from him.
This made me laugh.
Leg injuries have largely robbed him of the speed and agility he had coming out of college, and as a big corner with no wiggle who canβt hit, heβs just one giant Achilles Heel.
Sounds like Preston's problem was conditioning, for whatever reason, but all reports thus far say he looks leaner and stronger. He's in a contract year, so he needs to show out if he hopes to get another decent payday. A bounce back from him, with his size and length, would create a really positive ripple across the front 7.
As for King, I think they nailed it saying injuries have clearly taken their toll. His athleticism and speed was good coming out, but that seems like a distant memory. They cite Breeland as a better option, but I think the fact that GB HAD Breeland at one point and chose to move on, which seems consistent for his career, tells me there's more to the story with him maybe off the field. He's entering year 8 and he's on his 4th team, I don't think that's a coincidence. I think GB will look hard at some vet CBs who get edged out in camp or maybe are cut for cap reasons. There's always someone just like Breeland, who was available for GB during the season 3 years ago. Even if they just go with King opposite Jaire, I don't think it will take Stokes long to get on the field and lock down a spot.
If P has a good year I still don't think he gets a contract from the Packers. Partially due to cap, partially due to taking a shit in 2020 due to conditioning and finally Gary. The front 7 is going to be interesting over the next couple of years. There has to be some kind of influx at OLB and DT/DE and FA doesn't sound like much of an option. At least for getting legit pass rushers/DT cloggers.
I am hoping and praying Slaton is the next Johnny Jolly because that would be a major shot in the arm for the entire front 7 and future talent additions.
I've never read about it being done, but if I was an NFL staff, I would use the first day of camp to put each player through all the combine events to gauge where they are in comparison to where they were when they came into the league. I think it would be useful to measure decreases and increases in athleticism brought about by injuries, age, and weight room work. I think it would be useful in highlighting just how far guys like Jimmy Graham fell athletically compared to when first coming into the league.
