@Tdog posted:forget hero ball, we're on to zero ball
old codgers untie!
@RochNyFan posted:How long before Janis! surfaces?
Not sure how much working out he's been doing running his tire shop in Michigan.
We're pretty fortunate that we get to watch two timelines play out. Packers remained future facing and completely rebuilt their team on the fly and as luck would have it we also get to watch the all-in scenario with the Jets burning an irresponsible amount of future assets to win with past their prime players getting paid for who they were instead of trending towards who they'll become.
Packers retained the value in the house by upgrading the furnace, foundation, roof, and, kitchen while the Jets are out there buying boats, jet skis, putting a hot tub in the master bed room, and going on expensive vacations.
The Packers thankfully arrived at a place where they run their operation like Augusta, continuosly incrementally improving with excellence as the goal. The Jets run theirs like a couple of trust fund kids trying to take shortcuts by throwing money around to quick fix issues that should have been solved by long term planning.
Keep feeling like our biggest problem is going to be our coaching staff and personnel department getting raided in the next hiring cycle. We're in the championship window. I hope everyone in the building treats the opportunity appropriately. It's extremely difficult to put together this much talent that's ascending in unison. We're 80% into the peak of a 5 year cycle.
I hope Jordan appreciates how good it is right now and tempers the 50/50 balls in the division and playoff games. It requires an intense amount of fine detail discipline to go from a top 10 QB to a top 3 guy. His only limit is how good he wants to be.
@BrainDed posted:I don't see the connection. Explain it to me.
Rodgers also had nothing to do with the Jets bringing in Lazard and Cobb.
He didn't fire Saleh, but he easily could have saved his job had he wanted too. I'm just tired of his dishonesty and am glad he's someone else's problem.
@BrainDed posted:Saleh isn’t the GM. That’s like blaming MLF for signing the kicker. Still the DMF of the board.
Look ass wipe, there are many coaches that have a lot of input as to what players they want and don't want. Salah knew Adams would stress the cap and he may have wanted some cap availability to bring in another player for depth to replace a season ending injury to a key player. Your user name fits you perfectly.
Now we're arguing over the Jets and not even the Packers. What's this world coming to?
@michiganjoe posted:Rodgers also had nothing to do with the Jets bringing in Lazard
Did you realize Lazard has more TD catches than Justin Jefferson?
Maybe Godgers knows a thing or 2....🤭
@titmfatied posted:We're pretty fortunate that we get to watch two timelines play out. Packers remained future facing and completely rebuilt their team on the fly and as luck would have it we also get to watch the all-in scenario with the Jets burning an irresponsible amount of future assets to win with past their prime players getting paid for who they were instead of trending towards who they'll become.
Packers retained the value in the house by upgrading the furnace, foundation, roof, and, kitchen while the Jets are out there buying boats, jet skis, putting a hot tub in the master bed room, and going on expensive vacations.
The Packers thankfully arrived at a place where they run their operation like Augusta, continuosly incrementally improving with excellence as the goal. The Jets run theirs like a couple of trust fund kids trying to take shortcuts by throwing money around to quick fix issues that should have been solved by long term planning.
Keep feeling like our biggest problem is going to be our coaching staff and personnel department getting raided in the next hiring cycle. We're in the championship window. I hope everyone in the building treats the opportunity appropriately. It's extremely difficult to put together this much talent that's ascending in unison. We're 80% into the peak of a 5 year cycle.
I hope Jordan appreciates how good it is right now and tempers the 50/50 balls in the division and playoff games. It requires an intense amount of fine detail discipline to go from a top 10 QB to a top 3 guy.
His only limit is how good he wants to be.
And how good his offensive line becomes. That's the concern on offense right now. They are playing well enough to win games, but the OL moving It pales in comparison to the problems they have to scheme around based on having an average, at best, defensive line.
Understand.....The Godgers controls all. Don't question it!! Just embrace it
@Pikes Peak posted:How many would JJ have with AR ?
James Jones???? 
@4 Favre posted:I retired from baseball fandom 20 years ago, but wasn't the last "subway series" a ratings dud?
I would think between Ohtani, NY vs LA, and Yankees versus the ol' Brooklyn Dodgers, it would be a much bigger ratings draw.
I agree. I Ohtani is a charismatic star player. I don't see Aaron Judge the same way for some reason. Judge has done historic things, but Ohtani is on a trajectory to become a pantheon-level player with guys like Ruth, Willie Mays, DiMaggio, Mantle.
@Cheezers posted:
GM Rodgers needs to tell Coach Rodgers to quit running all the stale plays and get on board with the idea of motioning more and more creative plays. Coach Rodgers needs to tell QB Rodgers to quit playing hero ball and hitting the open check down (see Breece Hall last game). QB Rodgers will tell both the Coach and GM to go to hell now that he's got Adams back.
But now QB Rodgers has an elite WR that knows the secret hand signals that the younger WRs don't know yet.
@packerboi posted:You have to wonder how thrilled Lazard and maybe even Garett Wilson is with this trade.
Yes, on paper, this would mean you'd have 3 WR's where AR could spread the ball around to any of these guys. But this is also reality. And we can already see the forced throws from AR to #17 again and again regardless of who's actually open.
As Christian Watson pointed out, these players are also their own corporations. Individual stats matter when it comes to new contracts and potential generational wealth.
Lazard is leading the NFL in receiving TD's. His former teammate now on his team probably doesn't bode well for that to continue.
Lazard already got his Rodgers-inflated contract. Lazard is probably gone next year (unless Rodgers wants him back) because his cap hit is 13 million and hid dead cap is only 6. But he received 2 years and 22 million from the Jets.
Wilson might become an issue. He's going to want to be paid like Jefferson, Chase, etc., but he now has to split targets with Adams. Adams is going to want targets too, because unless they renegotiate his contract right now, he's on the market again in 4 months (even the Jets aren't paying him 36 million next year).
In some ways, it's the same problem the Packers have underneath the surface (which is why I think their best shot is this year). Doubs, Watson, Wicks, Reed, Kraft, etc. are on all very cheap, rookie contracts and all come up for their second contracts in 2026 or 2027. Doubs is making 1.1 million this year, Wicks is making 990K, Reed is at 1.6, and Watson at 2.5. Heath and Melton are at 915K. All of these guys are making more money than most fans, but it's not like they are set for life. They are all going to want at least Lazard money (11 or 12 million a year) and probably a lot more. They aren't going to get it with all of them getting between 30-50 catches for between 500-800 yards.
@Fedya posted:Bakh isn't playing on that turf.
I could maybe see Bakh pulling a Jared Veldheer (2019 Packers, 2020 Colts). Veldheer hadn't played all year in 2019 and then signed with the Packers as injury replacement and played 35 snaps in the last week of the regular season, and then started the first playoff game.
If the Jets make the playoffs, that's in play. If the Jets can just stay within shouting distance of 500 for the next 6 weeks, they end the season playing the Dolphins, Jaguars, Rams, Bills, and Dolphins again. The Dolphins are toast and will be playing out the string. If the Rams fall farther back they'll probably look to rest Stafford more, the Jags aren't very good. A 4-1 finish is well within reason.
6:30 for the dumbest question Aaron's ever had to answer. 
. His mood is a lot lighter than it's been almost the whole season. Can tell he's happy about getting 17 back with him. Can't imagine how many times he wished he already had him on the team. Garrett Wilson has all kinds of tools but he doesn't have close to the attention of detail 17 brings to the field.
@titmfatied posted:Garrett Wilson has all kinds of tools but he doesn't have close to the attention of detail 17 brings to the field.
#17 Teach him, he will.....Mind Meld with Godgers.....
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@Gsands posted:So happy he's not our problem anymore. Very interesting opinion piece from Forbes.
FWIW, Forbes is just a blogging site now. Anyone can make an account and post whatever they want on it. They sold out their rep many years ago.
@michiganjoe posted:Rodgers also had nothing to do with the Jets bringing in Lazard and Cobb.
Or Amos or Billy Turner or Tim Boyle or Hackett or Adams.
Need to rename the Jets to the New York Pack Exchange.
@BrainDed posted:Saleh isn’t the GM. That’s like blaming MLF for signing the kicker. Still the DMF of the board.
DMF on the planet appears to be a real possibility. 
You have that honor all locked up doofuss.
The worst move it looks like they made was Tyron Smith. 12 million cap hit who looked awful vs. the Bills.
Is this guy really serious? Talk about delusions of grandeur! Jets' Fireman Ed Complaining
@RochNyFan posted:Is this guy really serious? Talk about delusions of grandeur! Jets' Fireman Ed Complaining
hilarious indeed. I'm not gonna link to it but being NY, he got taken down hard for being a whiny look at me beeotch immediately 🤣