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What year do we draft a QB high?   Rodgers still playing good but inconsistent.      Doesn’t look like he’s enjoying the game that much these days.  We may have a couple years to go but it would be nice to have some time to groom a QB.  

Posted this in +/- but probably more appropriate here—

It could be that for the first time in his playing career, Rodgers is second-guessing himself. Over-throws, off-targets, holding the ball, bad body language... it seems to speak to a guy who isn’t confident in what he sees and/or his ability to get it there. Two INTs in two games? When did we last see that? Every guy playing into 35+ has to make changes to their play to play more with his head than his once-great physical ability. It seems Rodgers’ mind has not yet grasped that his physical ability is not at its peak any more. He looks so surprised when a throw is off, then mad, and then like “what the h***?” It’s not that it’s totally gone, but the consistency is. It would not surprise me to see Rodgers play better next year after he has a chance to reflect on the year and his play and make adjustments, especially to his mindset. Those guys open 5-10-15 yards away may become a lot more attractive than the guy 30 yards downfield. Of course, I hope he does that this week and comes out in two weeks on fire!

This game, and especially the dreadful performance on deep throws and sideline routes,  has to encourage MLF to go full-bore next year on his offensive scheme.  That Shananhan/McVay scheme uses a lot of pre-snap motion, play action, routes out of bunch formation, quick passes over middle. 

With our running game, we can have a rhythm, move the chains offense that can be more successful---today the only time we moved the ball consistently was doing that. 

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slowmo posted:

This game, and especially the dreadful performance on deep throws and sideline routes,  has to encourage MLF to go full-bore next year on his offensive scheme.  That Shananhan/McVay scheme uses a lot of pre-snap motion, play action, routes out of bunch formation, quick passes over middle. 

With our running game, we can have a rhythm, move the chains offense that can be more successful---today the only time we moved the ball consistently was doing that. 

Total of 28 incompletions, 16 of which were overthrows.

 

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Packy posted:

What year do we draft a QB high?   Rodgers still playing good but inconsistent.      Doesn’t look like he’s enjoying the game that much these days.  We may have a couple years to go but it would be nice to have some time to groom a QB.  

Better be the 2020 draft.

Hungry5 posted:
ChilliJon posted:

Rodgers was fucking horrible today.

Until he wasn't.

19 of his last 32 with 2 TDs and 2 FGs.

Giving him too much credit unless he is expected to play OK for just half a game.

Not expected to. But that's not the discussion.

AR was bad, really bad for the 1st forty-ish minutes today. Then he made the throws and drove the team for 20 pts and the win.

excalibur posted:
Packy posted:

What year do we draft a QB high?   Rodgers still playing good but inconsistent.      Doesn’t look like he’s enjoying the game that much these days.  We may have a couple years to go but it would be nice to have some time to groom a QB.  

Better be the 2020 draft.

Prepare to be disappointed. 

Some perspective on today’s game.

Packers supposedly treated today as a playoff game and struggled to beat a hapless Lion team. Love to believe that AR will be able to flip the switch in the postseason but that strikes me as a healthy dose of wishful thinking.

michiganjoe posted:

Packers supposedly treated today as a playoff game and struggled to beat a hapless Lion team. Love to believe that AR will be able to flip the switch in the postseason but that strikes me as a healthy dose of wishful thinking.

Then I suggest you take a large amount of cash & bet it all on the Packers opponent in 2 weeks.

Bullshit. They treated the the Viking game like a playoff game. This game. They were sleep walking. 

Timmy! posted:

I'd like to know which 8 plays Dan O. is referencing. 
Is he speaking of completions? Near misses? Both?

I'm thinking TD and sideline passes to Lazard and Adams (2 each), maybe the screen to Jones?

Off the top of my head.

I think we know the passing game as a whole is flawed.  I'd rather think it's more of an issue with the team as a whole instead of saying one guy sucks and is the reason for all of it.  Makes zero sense.

Here's the other thing to be hopeful for in the playoffs, new unseen schemes.  Everybody is taking the gloves off and since Mayo has been so inventive patching this passing game together it could be really fun what he comes up with.

FWIW. In his post game presser AR said they planned for deep throws. The thinking was that DET would try to "defend the sticks". There were open plays deep. Rodgers missed on 15 by my count, had 1 INT, and the OPI on WWWWJD.

AR also said he felt good on a lot of those throws... clearly something for him to assess.

Boris posted:
michiganjoe posted:

Packers supposedly treated today as a playoff game and struggled to beat a hapless Lion team. Love to believe that AR will be able to flip the switch in the postseason but that strikes me as a healthy dose of wishful thinking.

Then I suggest you take a large amount of cash & bet it all on the Packers opponent in 2 weeks.

Bullshit. They treated the the Viking game like a playoff game. This game. They were sleep walking. 

Really seemed to me like the plan for this game was to work on timing on the deep routes. Then for one drive they decided to take what the defense was giving them and then right back to the old "plan". It was really bizarre compared to the rest of 2019. 

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