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@Fandame posted:

So the holdup is...? Wingo says it's not Rodgers, but if the deal has been in place, when do we see the white smoke?

I'm guessing the holdup is part of what happened today, signing Lazard, and perhaps other players.

I'm also guessing that while a deal is in place, there is probably still things to figure out like Rodgers renegotiated contract with the Jets.

I would also expect that the Packers and Jets both want to have some media with the announcement.  Jets with a presser, Packers with a thank you post, good bye video, etc.  All those things take time to set up.

While it seems like these contracts are ironed out in 30 seconds, you know that most of the deals signed today and yesterday were done behind the scenes weeks ago.  This one may have actually just been decided on Friday and they're still needing to fine tune it all.

Saying "the holdup isn't Aaron" is probably because there have been many reports saying that AR hasn't made a decision yet.  Wingo is just saying that yes, he has made the decision to become a Jet and did so on Friday.  The rest is crossing T's and dotting I's before they make the official announcement.  It will be the biggest trade of the offseason after all.

So digging around (pure speculation) I found this Trey Wingo tweet and I'm guessing it was the cause of everything. IMO Gute and Rodgers came to an agreement they would move Rodgers after they lost the NFC Championship game to Tampa and Murphy and the executive board stepped in and put a stop to it.



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Titm, it wasn't the exec board....it was Murphy. Plain and simple.

Stay the fuck out of football ops you Alfred E. Neuman looking fucker.

Good speculation

@mr21mr21 posted:

Imagine what the current Jets WRs are thinking with ARod publicly saying he wants Lizard, Cobb, and OBJ instead of them

or

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Rodgers made clear that although his reported trade demand leaked on the day of the 2021 NFL Draft, the rift between him and the front office did not begin on draft day. "This wasn't a draft day thing," he said. "It started with a conversation in February. I just expressed my desire to be involved in conversations directly affecting my job." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...-building-decisions/


IMO, He wanted to get moved to the 49ers (or another team of his choice) , and they shut it down in no uncertain terms and it's been the rift ever since. Just my opinion, the conversations he's referring to are about what team he's a starting qb for. He said it without saying it up front and then proceeded to critique the exits of a bunch of players.

Worth a re-watch

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@Boris posted:

Titm, it wasn't the exec board....it was Murphy. Plain and simple.


A seven-member executive committee elected from a board of directors governs the corporation. The committee directs corporate management, approves major capital expenditures, establishes broad policy and monitors management's performance in conducting the business and affairs of the corporation.

The seven-member Executive Committee of the Green Bay Packers presently is composed of: (back row) Karl A. Schmidt, Member; Daniel T. Ariens, Secretary; Mark H. Murphy, President; Donald J. Long Jr., Member; Michael D. Simmer, Treasurer; (front row) Susan M. Finco, Vice President and Lead Director; and Marcia M. Anderson, Member. https://www.packers.com/history/hof/bob-harlan


I don't think Murphy acts unilaterally. I imagine he needs approval from the board for a move as big as changing out a HOF QB that brings a lot of revenue to the community.  I don't know the by-laws, but they must be able remove Murphy if they're unhappy with his decisions. I always think back to the stories about how they would meddle in the team affairs before finally getting out of Harlan's way. What's to stop that form of mismanagement from returning?


Rodgers with Kenny Mayne :

“I think sometimes people forget what really makes an organization,” Rodgers said Monday, via ESPN. “History is important, legacy of so many people who’ve come before you. But the people, that’s the most important thing. People make an organization, people make a business and sometimes that gets forgotten. Culture is built brick by brick, the foundation of it by the people, not by the organization, not by the building, not by the corporation. It’s built by the people.

“I’ve been fortunate enough to play with a number of amazing, amazing people and got to work for some amazing people as well. It’s those people that build the foundation of those entities. I think sometimes we forget that.” https://dairylandexpress.com/2...center-about-people/




Once a month, at 7:30 a.m. sharp, the seven members of the team’s executive committee come to Lambeau Field to meet behind closed doors, content in the knowledge that what goes on inside that room stays inside that room.

The meeting is always about the business of Green Bay Packers football. And the first order of business never changes: the football report from the general manager.

Over the past few years under the leadership of Packers chairman Bob Harlan, these men have presided over such knotty topics as the hiring and firing of coaches and general managers, a stock sale, a multimillion-dollar stadium renovation and preparing for two Super Bowls.

Occasionally, Harlan will summon them at a moment’s notice to be briefed about a major decision Harlan wants to make. Harlan will tell them what he wants to do, and there will be debate and, usually, consensus.

"Everything we do we go to the executive committee," Harlan said.

...

"We’re very careful before we add somebody," Harlan said.

...

"Ron Wolf used to say that one of the reasons he thought the Packers were attractive to him was because the team didn’t have an owner getting in the way," said John Underwood, the team’s longtime treasurer who still wields considerable influence on the team and in the NFL.

In the Packers’ organization, the executive committee doesn’t get in the way, but its advice and counsel is considered crucial to the well-being of the organization.

"The executive committee doesn’t get involved in micro-managing," Underwood said. "That’s a recipe for problems."

https://www.hjmartin.com/resou...HelpShapePackers.htm


The article was from 2006.

Their operations could be vastly different now, but it's possible Murphy went in after the exit interviews in February 2021 to let the board know they were planning to trade Rodgers and it wasn't received well. He may have found himself with the option of keeping Rodgers to keep his job. On top of that he gets to go break the news to Rodgers or has Gutey do it and we're off to the races. Rodgers rightly gets pissed, they come back hat in hand to give him everything he wants for 2021 and give him the ludicrous contract after the season to play out his career as a Packer. They also gave piles of money to MLF, Gutekunst, and, Russ Ball last summer. 12 doesn't appreciate being strung along so checks out of anything but the bare minimum. That brings us to the present day and the Packers find themselves surrounded by problems and no one's happy.

So I guess Joe Douglas had his balls removed as part of this deal to get Rodgers. I was kinda joking when I said AR would hold the title of Co-GM.

F the Co part, I think Rodgers is the actual GM now..

@packerboi posted:

So I guess Joe Douglas had his balls removed as part of this deal to get Rodgers. I was kinda joking when I said AR would hold the title of Co-GM.

F the Co part, I think Rodgers is the actual GM now..

Players recruit other players all the time, or did you miss that in your blinding rage?

If this is actually true, it lends credence to the story the deal is basically done and it’s not Rodgers holding it up. But hey, I get it, a bunch of people want to hate Rodgers, so every ill the team has faced in the last decade is blamed on him.

@Herschel posted:

Players recruit other players all the time, or did you miss that in your blinding rage?

If this is actually true, it lends credence to the story the deal is basically done and it’s not Rodgers holding it up. But hey, I get it, a bunch of people want to hate Rodgers, so every ill the team has faced in the last decade is blamed on him.

lmao, blinding rage? Drama queen much?

I have no rage or anything of the sort towards 12. I am just like most others where his act and his unending narcissistic demand for attention and ego stroking in the last few years has gotten old.  I am tired of a now annual pilgrimage of Aaron's "will I or won't I" play schtick.

If you think Rodgers is just doing what other players do and he doesn't have a death grip on the Jets FO now, you are just blind to reality. Wielding this type of power at this point in his career seems to be paramount to him. And sadly, Woody seems more than happy to give it to him.

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