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@Satori posted:My guess is that Bak frequently tells AR he's being a dickhead, but AR thinks he's just kidding around.
I have "close" friends who I cannot tell them that they are being a "dickhead" or if I do, it doesn't register. I know people may think you aren't really "close" to someone if they don't listen to you or you don't feel free to speak your mind to them, but I disagree.
I agree that from at least their public persona, Bak and A.J. (don't see much of Cobb in public) would seem like the most stable people around him, but it would not surprise me that they wouldn't say anything to him.
@GratefulPack posted:I have "close" friends who I cannot tell them that they are being a "dickhead" or if I do, it doesn't register. I know people may think you aren't really "close" to someone if they don't listen to you or you don't feel free to speak your mind to them, but I disagree.
I agree that from at least their public persona, Bak and A.J. (don't see much of Cobb in public) would seem like the most stable people around him, but it would not surprise me that they wouldn't say anything to him.
I think you're probably right here - it rarely registers for the people who need to hear it most
And we each come at it from our own perspective. Let's say you're a sniveling little shit like schefturd - from your view AR is a dbag. But if you're Bak - you aren't interested in breaking news; just in having fun with your friend. So he wouldn't be as likely to say something because he doesn't feel that way about Aaron.
I'm sure they both act as sounding boards for each other from time to time
@Herschel posted:It depends on what the Packers want in compensation up front. They can maximize that with a claw back provision, take less in a one-shot trade, or gamble with conditional picks for an outside shot at the best compensation.
The reported deal is the Packers would get a #2 pick in 2023 (43) and 2024, the 2024 pick becomes a #1 depending how the Jets do as a team. If Rodgers doesn't play in 2024 the Packers give the Jets back draft pick(s) and you can bet it wont be a 7th rounder. If the Packers essentially give back the 2024 pick because Rodgers doesn't play is one 2nd round pick fair compensation for Rodgers in 2023? It sounds a little light to me.
from The Athletic
kudos to these guys for staying out of the fray
"...Robert Saleh and Matt LaFleur are best friends. LaFleur was the best man at Saleh’s wedding. Now they are both NFL head coaches — and their teams are embroiled in a negotiation for one of the best (and most controversial) quarterbacks in league history.
That must make things awkward, right?
Not quite. Saleh and LaFleur were in Arizona for the NFL owners’ meetings this week, and both insisted that when they talk, Aaron Rodgers never comes up. Just life.
So if anyone was hoping their friendship might speed things along, it won’t. Neither coach had any interest in divulging information or opinions about where the Jets and Packers were in trade negotiations "
More on the trade parameters - Corey Davis
....If WR Corey Davis isn’t traded to the Packers and the Jets don’t sign Beckham, Davis will likely stick around. Saleh is high on him, and Downing coached him in Tennesee, too. He’s a valuable run blocker, a leader and, when healthy, a quality wide receiver.
How he fits into an offense that just added Allen Lazard — arguably a better version of Davis — and Mecole Hardman to Garrett Wilson and Denzel Mims is less clear, but the Jets like him enough that it wouldn’t be the worst idea to try to make it work.
Who do we use for a backup to Love?
Teams giving AR too much time compilation
Some fun ones in here.
What else are you going to do with the next 10 minutes of your life ?
@packerboi posted:Latest:
The Packers still believe Rodgers is a premier player and are attempting to get maximum compensation in return, even if a first-round pick in 2023 isn’t involved. It’s looking more and more likely that a second-round pick in 2023 and conditional picks in 2024 and even 2025 will be involved in the final deal.
I'd take that in a heartbeat especially if the Jets don't put a hook in it for conditional returned picks.
@ZUF posted:A well thought out deception of the truth.
“I’d been ready the entire time for this question, and had thought about how I wanted to answer it,” Rodgers told Rogan, via USA Today’s Steve Gardner. “And I had come to the conclusion I’m gonna say, ‘I’ve been immunized.’ And if there’s a follow-up, then talk about my process.”
“But, [I] thought there’s a possibility that I say ‘I’m immunized,’ maybe they understand what that means, maybe they don’t. Maybe they follow up. They didn’t follow up. So then I go the season them thinking, some of them, that I was vaccinated.”
Kinda like if your spouse asked you if you were cheating and you said, I didn't sleep with anyone and if there is a follow up then talk about my process.
kindly stick to football posts
@YATittle posted:Who do we use for a backup to Love?
I'm not sure it really matters. If Love goes down for 2 or 3 games we probably won't be in a meaningful situation to try to win a game or 2 for that wildcard spot. If Love goes down for multiple months it really doesn't matter. Maybe we draft a guy in the 3rd, since we don't use that round anyway, to learn the professional QB game, and we can have a solid backup for a few years behind Love. Maybe.
I like the idea of using our third rounder on that....
It's pretty slim pickin's at this point. I agree, it doesn't really matter if Love goes down as we probably won't be in a position to compete for a playoff spot. So, you need a guy who is more willing to help Love than compete with him at this point. You also need a guy who knows he's not a starter (either never was or won't be again) so he's willing to hold a clipboard. Bring back Benkert? He knows he's not a starter in this league, and while he may be young, he has some experience -- and the tweets would be epic!
I'd bring back Benkert depending on how the draft goes.
LOL, and he is a major tweeter. I know his daughter almost as well as he does.
Here's Warren Sharp with an article on The Myth of the Rookie QB deal
https://www.foxsports.com/stor...acksons-case-for-him
There have been just five quarterbacks to win the Super Bowl since 2014:
Patrick Mahomes , Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady , Nick Foles and Peyton Manning.
What do the last four have in common?
They were acquired. They won the Super Bowl for a team that didn’t draft them. Three of those four won the Super Bowl the very first year they were acquired.
Ipso facto - I think the J-E-T-S need to give up more for Rodgers
And the Packers shouldn't return any picks
@PA green & gold posted:He was on Philly’s sports talk radio for awhile before going to NYC. He can talk endlessly without saying anything. Loves to hear himself.
Was that before or after his felony fraud conviction?
@ammo posted:March 6th seems to be the date that Rodgers said he was willing to go to the Jets or in other words 24 days ago. We have added 53 pages to the thread since then. If we stay at the same rate that gets us to 228 pages by draft day. I say we can do it.
What if he gets traded before then?
You can just hold your breath until it happens then.
@Fedya posted:Was that before or after his felony fraud conviction?
Before. 20-25 years ago.
@MichiganPacker posted:As we've discussed, I think Rodgers biggest problem the last few years is that he doesn't have anyone around him that's a "real" friend to tell him when he's being an idiot or a douchebag. For many of us, that's our spouse, a sibling, or a parent. He doesn't talk to any family members and he doesn't seem to have a lot of close friends.
Donald Driver saw this coming. Driver gave him advice never to forget where he came from, because they are the ones who helped him succeed. It seems that fell on deaf ears.
@Satori posted:This is a very important role and too many posters at X4 don't have that friend
Hey - Maybe I could be that friend ?Where shall I begin ? Its a lengthy list, but I'm accepting nominations via PM
You sound a little eager to start your role.😂
@Goalline posted:Driver gave him advice never to forget where he came from, because they are the ones who helped him succeed.
They should have every young NFL player record a video to themselves when they first come into the league. Then when they get old & jaded, you could replay that video for them, reminding them of how / why they got there.
@Blair Kiel posted:Unblock me please.
😂
Wait, you are being serious. What kind of jackhole gets blocked by Satori? Did you jerk off in his cornflakes?
Dude that’s gross. Please don’t talk about cornflakes
@Benzene posted:Dude that’s gross. Please don’t talk about cornflakes
Well, I don’t eat cornflakes. Ironically a food created to stop little boys from jerking off.
I always thought of BK as a frosted flake kind of guy.
@antooo posted:I always thought of BK as a frosted flake kind of guy.
He does get flaky on occasion.
@Satori posted:Teams giving AR too much time compilation
Some fun ones in here.
What else are you going to do with the next 10 minutes of your life ?
Best video ever!
You get my man Sartori’s name out ya mouth.
Here's a good- bye to AR from La Fleur and Bill Huber at SI
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...-good-bye-to-rodgers
"...the Green Bay Packers as we know them would not exist without Aaron Rodgers’ prolonged excellence"
“Listen,” LaFleur told reporters at the NFL owners meetings in Phoenix. “I’m just going to throw it out there right away: First of all, I’ve got nothing but love and appreciation for what Aaron has done for so many in our organization. Obviously, have experienced a lot of great times together, won a lot of football games together. Ultimately, didn’t bring home a Super Bowl, which will always be disappointing.”
Then, LaFleur hit on the crux of the matter.
“He’s done so much for myself, my family, our coaches’ families, so many people within the organization, other players,” LaFleur continued. “A lot of people have been rewarded, quite frankly, because of his ability to go out there and play and play at such a high level.”
@Blair Kiel posted:You get my man Sartori’s name out ya mouth.
"My man" blocked you a long time ago. The only way he will see this is because i quoted you
I just thought he was playing hard to get.
@YATittle posted:Who do we use for a backup to Love?
I kind of like Etling. We could get him on the cheap I think. He did look promising (to me) last pre-season . And NO I am not talking about that TD he ran in which was the bomb !!! 
@Goalline posted:Well, I don’t eat cornflakes, ironically a food created to stop little boys from jerking off.
Please don't tell us more.
https://podcastaddict.com/episode/155426187
32:10 Rodgers discussion starts
34:00 former GM Randy Meuller makes a good point about why some GMs may prefer not getting involved with conditional picks. Once a trade is made with conditional picks attached none of those picks can be traded until one of the conditions is met and completes the trade (if a 2024 4th can escalate to 3rd, 2nd, or 1st none of those picks can be traded until one of the conditions are met). If an opportunity to aquire a player during the 2023 season becomes available the GM's hands are essentially tied.
Son of a bitch!
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