There's really no hurry for eaither side. A bunch of whiny, impatient fans don't change the calendar. Yeah, it would be nice for free agency, I suppose, but neither team is likely much of a player there, regardless. There's almost a month and a half before the draft yet to go.
@H5 posted:12for#13
That is the STARTING point.
Iâm thinking 250 or 3 hundy easily.
Let the pad statting commence
When is the inner circle going to intervene?
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Surprised the Pack havenât tackled the narrative by saying, âwe wish Aaron the best and recognize he is a generational talent, itâs to bad the Jets donât value him the same wayâ
the narrative can either be the Pack are greedy or the Jets are cheap
Too soon! It will come eventually.
... in calling around, asking teams that are uninvolved what theyâd give up, just about everyone said it should be a Day 2 pick this year, fronting a package with a conditional pick or two on the back end.â
This seems to line up with some of the rumors and reports weâve heard about the trade conversations. Green Bay apparently wants to get at least one first-round pick. Joe Douglas and the Jets, unsurprisingly, are clearly not willing to give up a first-rounder.
Based on Breerâs report, it appears the Jetsâ demands are closer to being logical than the Packersâ. ...
... "Ya'll ain't going to no Super Bowl," Pro Football Hall of Famer LeRoy Butler told TMZ Sports, referencing the Jets' hopes should they sign Rodgers.
Butler predicted the Jets would finish below.500 if they sign Rodgers and worries there will be no sense of chemistry among teammates with New York's expected new addition.
"I don't know if Aaron Rodgers is going to be there the whole offseason to gel with the top Rookie of the Year wide receiver (Garrett Wilson). ... I don't know if he's going to be there to go to the clubs with Breece Hall. I don't know."
Butler doesn't seem to have a high opinion of Rodgers, who he says would potentially "waffle again" with the Jets in 2024 if the upcoming season doesn't go according to plan. ...
I really hope in the future Gute polls all 31 teams and consults with Albert Breer before he makes a trade.ð
Welcome back Aaron. Watch out for the splinters over there on that end.
" Since my team doesn't have a dog in this fight I wouldn't give up more than a 5th RD. pick for Rodgers." Pretty easy to try to be a hard ass about it when you're not involved and the decision doesn't effect your team or your career.
@H5 posted:12for#13
I see what you did there.
@PackerRick posted:Are you setting the o/u?
Speaking of, the over/under on the Jets wins next year is 9.5. Vegas thinks Rodgers is only worth 2.5 wins.
Vegas doesn't think anything. That's where the money is landing. If a deal is completed more money will come in on the over and raise the line.
We keep hearing how the Packers have the ascendancy in this situation.
You mean, like leverage?
Oh, oh.
Joe Banner gets in on the act. Jets should have a sit down with Lamar Jackson to let GB know they have other options. Onlookers playing 4D chess.
@ammo posted:So what happens first, the trade is finalized or this thread gets to 175 pages?
Actually, yesterday and today have been pretty mild, compared to days earlier in the week. I'm pretty sure there was one day where 4-5 pages were added, and a couple of days that had 3.
Maybe March Madness and/or the anticipation of contributed to the cooldown.
We'll see what happens this coming week.
I predict it will easily go over 200 pages once a deal happens (or not).
The same Joe Banner that said Philly extending Carson Wentz to a 4 year deal making him the 2nd highest paid QB (at the time) was a fantastic move?
Let the Jets contact Lamar. Sign him. Who gives a shit? If they get him, itâs 2 #1 picks and heâll cost you as much per year as Rodgers. But Iâm sure heâll stay healthy with New York and his completion percentage will significantly improve.
Of course, that also assumes Baltimore doesnât match- which Iâm 90% sure they would.
Wow. Getting into the Lamar sweepstakes sure evens the playing field.
Something is starting to bother me. Was Gerg's sister right all along?
Itâs becoming clear that the Packers will not get much for Rodgers. They should do whatever is best for the salary cap, and if thatâs a post- June 1 release, then thatâs fine. There is no reason to keep him for the 2023 season, but also little reason to rush a trade to the Jets for a low-round draft pick.
Wingo said Rodgers is going to be in NY this week. Hope its true. And if he goes to NY and a deal is not done yet. All the better
Talk radio and all media platforms will be drooling more then usual for them to get it done.
@tsr86free posted:Itâs becoming clear that the Packers will not get much for Rodgers. They should do whatever is best for the salary cap, and if thatâs a post- June 1 release, then thatâs fine. There is no reason to keep him for the 2023 season, but also little reason to rush a trade to the Jets for a low-round draft pick.
The Packers want to take the entire cap hit this year. If you don't believe me, look at their cap management this offseason. They've restructured deals to move cap money into future years so they can take Rodgers' full cap hit this year.
We currently have the 3rd most cap space in the league. If we trade Rodgers after June 1 we'll have the most cap space. You can't roll cap over, it's use it or lose it. There would be no reason to restructure contracts if you weren't taking the entire AR cap hit this year.
As for a getting a low round pick for Rodgers, as weird as this sounds, does anyone think Rodgers wants that? "Yeah I was only worth a 3rd round pick" would totally damage his ego.
Unless the Jets cave due to another team's interest, Guessing we will not see any more news or movement on this for another month, just before the draft.
Curios if the FO is working the phones. Just need someone to even listen to make Woody squirm (that sounds wrong..)
The recruiting of Green Bay Packersâ Aaron Rodgers continues, and this time, itâs for something completely unrelated to football. The potential New York Jet hasnât officially been announced in a trade, but heâs already landed an âimpossible-to-get reservation at the oracle of orecchiette, Raoâs,â according to Dean Balsamini of the New York Post.
The restaurant has already hosted famous athletes including Phil Simms, Joe Montana, Boomer Esiason and Peyton Manning; the latter celebrated his second Super Bowl ring at Raoâs with brother Eli in February 2016.
The 39-year-old Rodgers has already made it clear that he intends to play for the Jets in 2023, and it seems like New York is already rolling out the welcome mat.
âHeâs been here four or five times. Iâd love to see him more,â Raoâs owner Benjamin Prelvukaj told The New York Post. âHe loves the ribeye â and tips well.â
The owner of the East Pole in NYC, Tom Marignetti, agrees: âHeâs a cool dudeâĶHeâs the kind of guy youâd want to have a drink with. Compared to Wisconsin, heâs going to have a ball in New York City.â
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Just the tipper?
@Packiderm posted:Something is starting to bother me. Was Gerg's sister right all along?
She absolutely was.
Jets are trying to show a position of "strength" to try and reduce the Packers asking price aka "You're in foreclosure."
When the facts are, they are NOT in foreclosure
X4 League MVP & Super Bowl MVP is most certainly worth #13 overall.
Chongo said.... (And I agree) Can you imagine if Rodgers goes to the Jets and the Jets win the Super Bowl and Gutey gave him away for peanuts??
Career suicide. Trade of a lifetime for our GM. He's got time. I love it. It'll happen. Be patient.
Look what Gutey has done in the past. Traded for Jaire, just last year....trading with the Vikings for Christian Watson.
C'mon....the guy knows what he's doing. Let him cook!
@Goldie posted:Compared to Wisconsin, heâs going to have a ball in New York City.â
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Not so sure about this statement. He stressed how the people make an organization. We'll see how he likes the people of NYC compared to WI.
@vitaflo posted:As for a getting a low round pick for Rodgers, as weird as this sounds, does anyone think Rodgers wants that? "Yeah I was only worth a 3rd round pick" would totally damage his ego.
Interesting conundrum, isn't it? The word you hear from the talking heads is Rodgers wants the Jets to have every available asset. Jet fans would love to give up nothing to have him there. So what is the real value, then? If he's the missing piece, if you think he gets you over the hump, it should stand to reason you'd be ok giving up something for the guy. A good bit of it is posturing, but most Packer fans who've paid attention understand that ego of his.
I don't see a guy who is staying in the game to win a title. Whether it's for his love of the game, or for numbers, or attention, or $$$, he seemed almost resigned to the losses that added up in 2022. It also seemed like his Mcafee segment was a stab at finding a grudge to carry him through. It worked for Favre, maybe it'll work for him. But we also know how important he claims the locker room to be, the camaraderie and relationships. That's been years in the making for him in the sprawling metropolis of GB. You don't just acquire that by way of transplant.
From Brandt's Sunday 7.
2. What Iâm thinking about the trade of Rodgers to the Jets...I seem to have started a social media debate about who has the preponderance of control in the ongoing Rodgers trade negotiations between the Packers and Jets. There are many differing opinions but here is my definition of preponderance of control: It belongs to the party in the negotiation that is most satisfied with the status quo. In this case, that is the Packers. They have their starting quarterback (Love), they have no cap or cash issues with Rodgers anytime soon, and Rodgers is not in the building. As to those who suggest Rodgers may show up to work out there and force their hand? Please.As to the Jets, they have stoked the fires in their fan base, who are frothing at the mouth for Rodgers. They have signed Rodgersâ designated receiver, Allan Lazard. They have no alternative at quarterback, and the last thing they want to do is go back to Zach Wilson. They need to make this trade more than the Packers do, at least in the short term.The second half of the trade compensation here is easy:The Packers should get a 2024 Draft pick that stair-steps rounds (from, say, 4th to 3rd to 2nd to even 1st) depending on Rodgers' performance in 2023. The hard part is what the Jets give up in 2023.Listen, I am not saying this goes for a month or that the Packers extract multiple first-round picks; but I am sayingthe Packers are clearly not taking what the Jets are offering now, and they will get more than that at some point.
#13 for #12.
Reminds me when I sold my motorcycle years ago. Asking price was $1k. First buyer came along, he was practically drooling (younger guy). I knew he was the buyer. He asked what I'd take; I said $1k. He said "it needs new tires". I said "yes, it does, that's why I'm only asking $1k instead of more". He said it was too much & I said I don't need to sell. He left & was back with a grand in cash about an hour later.
Hold out for your deal Gute!
@FinnLander posted:Reminds me when I sold my motorcycle years ago. Asking price was $1k. First buyer came along, he was practically drooling (younger guy). I knew he was the buyer. He asked what I'd take; I said $1k. He said "it needs new tires". I said "yes, it does, that's why I'm only asking $1k instead of more". He said it was too much & I said I don't need to sell. He left & was back with a grand in cash about an hour later.
Were you first-chair in this negotiation
@PackerRick posted:Not so sure about this statement. He stressed how the people make an organization. We'll see how he likes the people of NYC compared to WI.
I only was in NYC once back in 1998, it was awesome. For a guy with the money Rodgers has, it probably would be a pretty cool place to be.
That said, if things donât go the way he thinks it will, the fans might get on him and that would definitely take away some of the fun out of being there.
@Fedya posted:Just the tipper?
Just to see how it feels.
@DH13 posted:Pouncy started for PIT in the same SB.
There are several rookie OL every year that make their teams better, regardless of whether or not their team made the playoffs or SB. It's one of the reasons they don't want to part with #13.
I believe Pouncy missed the game with a high ankle sprain.