Aaron Rodgers traded to the NY Jets

@PA green & gold posted:

I wonder how much Rodgers had influence in that?  He wanted Cobb & Lewis each year in GB.  Now we hear reports of him asking for Lazard (who the Jets signed), Cobb and Lewis in NY.  If the room turned to 💩, why does Rodgers want those guys in NY?

Stop with the "we now hear" ...once again a report that AR totally refuted is now repeated as "fact" ...the Jets asked him about numerous players , as Rodgers said, to say he gave them a list of players he wanted is "ridiculous" , so please stop repeating it.

If I read it on X4, it’s got to be true!

If it's on the internet it's true

@Herschel posted:

Setting aside QB Rodgers =/= WR Adams, there was plenty of anger they traded Adams, greatly weakening the offense and took Walker (and two defenders) for a defense that still wasn't good. Many on this board were just excited thay actually didn't ignore the ILB position for once, but in the wider world there was angt.

There's always going to be anger among the fans when the team loses a great player. But I never felt Walker was under any pressure as a LB being one of the players the Packers got for Adams. I know most of the WRs were off the board when the Packers drafted but they might have shied away from one anyway to avoid the direct comparison to Adams.

@Goalline posted:

My favorite Packers offenses had diversity in the passing game. The offense got better without Sterling Sharp, and hopefully this new QB will spread the ball around. That will improve the offense.

So both black *and* white WRs?

@GBFanForLife posted:

The FO is the only reason Rodgers didn't get another ring.

That's easy to say but the Packers were close enough several times that a couple plays could have done it. When I look at some of the games the Packers let get away in the playoffs it hard to blame the FO. Seattle, 49ers, TB just to name 3. All three of those teams had the talent to win the SB.

@FLPACKER posted:

Stop with the "we now hear" ...once again a report that AR totally refuted is now repeated as "fact" ...the Jets asked him about numerous players , as Rodgers said, to say he gave them a list of players he wanted is "ridiculous" , so please stop repeating it.

I'm curious why the Jets would be inquiring about guys like Cobb and Lewis. Or maybe someone else brought those names up as examples of great teammates Rodgers likes to play with. I think the only thing missing from being a list is the paper.

@PackerRick posted:

That's easy to say but the Packers were close enough several times that a couple plays could have done it. When I look at some of the games the Packers let get away in the playoffs it hard to blame the FO. Seattle, 49ers, TB just to name 3. All three of those teams had the talent to win the SB.

I guess my sarcasm wasn't clear

AR mischaracterized the reporting on the list and then said it wasn't accurate. He claimed it was a "list of demands" and I always heard it portrayed as more of a wish list.

@Herschel posted:

So you’re trying to blame Rodgers because he wanted at least some basic competence if they weren’t going to restock talent? Wolf admitted he let receiver slip, TT generally kept the receiver room with talent, and Fredokunst drafted a bunch of tall, fast guys who couldn’t catch, then ignored it for another couple years until losing the one good receiver he inherited.

Not blaming Rodgers at all. Simply saying he was comfortable with the receivers he had.  And the myth that he never had a round 1 wideout.  Stop. Is anyone not wanting Adams, Nelson, Jennings, Driver, Finley, etc?  It doesn’t matter what round they were drafted - Rodgers has had very good to great wideouts.  

@Herschel posted:

So you’re trying to blame Rodgers because he wanted at least some basic competence if they weren’t going to restock talent? Wolf admitted he let receiver slip, TT generally kept the receiver room with talent, and Fredokunst drafted a bunch of tall, fast guys who couldn’t catch, then ignored it for another couple years until losing the one good receiver he inherited.

So if Ted Thompson kept the receiver room stocked with talent why did Gutekunst only inherit one good receiver? That comment makes no sense

@GBFanForLife posted:

The FO is the only reason Rodgers didn't get another ring.

So it was the front office screaming for Morgan Burnett to slide when he could’ve had a pick six and sent the Packers to the Super Bowl?

@GBFanForLife posted:

I guess my sarcasm wasn't clear

It never is on the internet.

@YooperPackfan posted:

So it was the front office screaming for Morgan Burnett to slide when he could’ve had a pick six and sent the Packers to the Super Bowl?

You mean that he could have run 20 yards to the sideline to put them in FG range without any risk at all?

I think you can blame someone in the front office for cheaping out on special teams coaches that cost them two trips to the Super Bowl. But that might be higher up than the GM.

Other than that, I think the GB front office was in the upper 20% of the league in terms of positioning them to win in all years except 2020 (the Love, Dillon, DeGuara draft) and 2022 (replacing D. Adams with Sammy Watkins).

@YooperPackfan posted:

So if Ted Thompson kept the receiver room stocked with talent why did Gutekunst only inherit one good receiver? That comment makes no sense

All the other top receivers aged out or got hurt. Jennings was let walk but they didn't need his $ at the time.  TT didn't replenish the cupboards before BG took over, is the only real complaint.  But that was at a time the D was needing a lot more rebuilding than the O.

@MichiganPacker posted:

You mean that he could have run 20 yards to the sideline to put them in FG range without any risk at all?

I think you can blame someone in the front office for cheaping out on special teams coaches that cost them two trips to the Super Bowl. But that might be higher up than the GM.

Other than that, I think the GB front office was in the upper 20% of the league in terms of positioning them to win in all years except 2020 (the Love, Dillon, DeGuara draft) and 2022 (replacing D. Adams with Sammy Watkins).

The biggest blunder in that game was giving up a TD on a fake FG with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter with a 16-0 lead. Giving up 3 points wouldn't have hurt the Packers at all so trying to block it instead of protecting against a fake was ridiculous. It was a chip shot FG, just give it to them. That play completely changed the momentum.

Something that hasn't been mentioned is Wilson, just like Love this offseason, has a 5th year option to be dealt with next year. The Jets could be asking for a chunk of cash from the Packers in this deal.

@PackerRick posted:

The biggest blunder in that game was giving up a TD on a fake FG with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter with a 16-0 lead. Giving up 3 points wouldn't have hurt the Packers at all so trying to block it instead of protecting against a fake was ridiculous. It was a chip shot FG, just give it to them. That play completely changed the momentum.

That was solely on AJ Hawk. Idot.

@YooperPackfan posted:

So if Ted Thompson kept the receiver room stocked with talent why did Gutekunst only inherit one good receiver? That comment makes no sense

Ever heard of this thing called time?

@YATittle posted:

That was solely on AJ Hawk. Idot.

Not to mention the guy that made a diving attempt to block the kick taking himself out of the play instead of playing for a fake.

riveting repartee

160 pages about a big mistake contract.

Some here just can't help but keep sticking that 2014 hot poker right back in their eye.

@PackerRick posted:

I'm curious why the Jets would be inquiring about guys like Cobb and Lewis. Or maybe someone else brought those names up as examples of great teammates Rodgers likes to play with. I think the only thing missing from being a list is the paper.

Perhaps because they are familiar with the offense Hackett will install, and help with younger players with its instillation?

@michiganjoe posted:

AR mischaracterized the reporting on the list and then said it wasn't accurate. He claimed it was a "list of demands" and I always heard it portrayed as more of a wish list.

The connotation is that AR came in with a "list" of demands. There were no demands or list. The Jets had a list of players that they asked him about .... that was it! Furthermore AR stated that Cobb / Lewis / etc. returning or not returning to the Packers had no bearing on his decision.

I never got the impression from any of the reporting that it amounted to any sort of a demand. Overall the reporting on it struck me as pretty innocuous and not really worthy of the response he gave to it.

@FLPACKER posted:

Stop with the "we now hear" ...once again a report that AR totally refuted is now repeated as "fact" ...the Jets asked him about numerous players , as Rodgers said, to say he gave them a list of players he wanted is "ridiculous" , so please stop repeating it.

So, now I'm hearing that Aaron was asked about some number of players and he gave them his thoughts.
Presumably someone from the Jets staff was taking notes.
If so, ipso facto, a list.

@DH13 posted:

Some here just can't help but keep sticking that 2014 hot poker right back in their eye.

Jerry Rice fumbled.

Too soon, too soon.

Jeezus 🤦‍♂️ 12 said....he was asked about OBJ, and Rodgers said...."Who wouldn't want OBJ?!?!"

Aka.....he made the list....

Lighten up, Francis.

@GBFanForLife posted:

I guess my sarcasm wasn't clear

@FLPACKER posted:

Perhaps because they are familiar with the offense Hackett will install, and help with younger players with its instillation?

So you think the Jets would be interested in Lewis and Cobb even if Rodgers wasn't who they are really after?

I'm guessing  Rodgers didn't tell the Packers to trade for Cobb.

@Boris posted:

Jeezus 🤦‍♂️ 12 said....he was asked about OBJ, and Rodgers said...."Who wouldn't want OBJ?!?!"

Aka.....he made the list....

I was curious as to why the Jets would ask Rodgers about OBJ when Rodgers never played with him.

@GBFanForLife posted:

I'm guessing  Rodgers didn't tell the Packers to trade for Cobb.

Cobb was on a list of one.

I think it was A BJ.

@PackerRick posted:

I was curious as to why the Jets would ask Rodgers about OBJ when Rodgers never played with him.

My guess would be that when they went to California to "sell" AR on playing for them, Jets presented him with a number of FA players that they were considering.... all part of their recruitment of him. No different than when colleges recruit athletes.

YAGoldie is in full thumbs down mode.

@FLPACKER posted:

My guess would be that when they went to California to "sell" AR on playing for them, Jets presented him with a number of FA players that they were considering.... all part of their recruitment of him. No different than when colleges recruit athletes.

Since the Jets have their own scouting department, and Rodgers never played with OBJ, that would make it evident that they are getting his OK if that would be someone he wants them to acquire.