Brian Gutekunst said receiving a first-round pick from the Jets for Aaron Rodgers isn’t “necessary.” He wants fair value for Rodgers, who Gutekunst calls a “premier” player. But there is no hard line on receiving a first rounder.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) March 27, 2023
Gutekunst speaks - worth a listen
Brian Gutekunst said he tried to contact Aaron Rodgers “many times” this offseason to discuss how he fit in the Packers’ future.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) March 27, 2023
“Our inability to reach him or for him to respond in any way — I think at that point … I had to do my job.”
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@BrainDed posted:If this isn't the situation, what is the hold up? Why would the Jets not be pursuing a plan B if negotiations have stalled for this long ?
Teams spend months and months negotiating these contracts, some are 70+ pages long. And that's with 1 team and 1 QB, add another team and there's a lot of back and forth. Testosterone too. Glad they put a muzzle on Murphy tho
Both parties know they are headed toward consummation, but the Jets need a little foreplay and the Packers are playing hard-to-get.
@ilcuqui posted:Gutekunst speaks - worth a listen
Brian Gutekunst said he tried to contact Aaron Rodgers “many times” this offseason to discuss how he fit in the Packers’ future.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) March 27, 2023
“Our inability to reach him or for him to respond in any way — I think at that point … I had to do my job.”
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It's hard to find your phone in a dark room.
This thing should be beyond the slap and tickle phase by now.
@ilcuqui posted:Gutekunst speaks - worth a listen
Its been quite the dance so far.
Neither party wanted to be the one to break up, until they broke up and now they both want credit for being the one who called it off.
You can tell Gute is alternating between super agitated and holding back under the bright lights
And did Gute just say they tried to talk to AR this offseason about his future in GB and couldn't get a response? JFC.
@DH13 posted:And did Gute just say they tried to talk to AR this offseason about his future in GB and couldn't get a response? JFC.
I think AR knew they were moving on, so he avoided taking the call
Didn't Costanza keep a job that way, by hiding out ?
We may be approaching Festivus and the Airing of Grievances.
@DH13 posted:And did Gute just say they tried to talk to AR this offseason about his future in GB and couldn't get a response? JFC.
Yep. Which once again leads you to believe AR was full of shit on MaCafee 12 days ago regarding GB’s communication towards him. Or at the very least, left out important facts like oh, I left the Packers on read and never returned their calls.
It’s blatantly clear this relationship is done and everyone just needs to move on.
@PackerPatrick posted:Yah, he is #1 in #2. Sounds like a plumber joke.
I see that on a plumbers truck here on a regular basis, Makes me laugh every time. We are "#1 in the #2 business" that is. 
Uh oh. You know what this means. AR is traded to the jets for nothing, AR goes full Favre mode and the works his way to Minnesota, Chicago or Detroit to get revenge. So let it be said, so let it be done.
@DH13 posted:And did Gute just say they tried to talk to AR this offseason about his future in GB and couldn't get a response? JFC.
Yup. Doesn't surprise me. Gute also said that when he finally was able to get a hold of his agent, he was told Aaron wanted to be traded to the Jets. But Aaron ghosted him.
My guess is Aaron knew this was his last season in GB well before the season was over (which is why he kept playing with a broken thumb), and once the season was over he was done with Gute for good. Gute probably wanted to talk to him about trade, retirement, etc, but AR seems to hold a grudge like no other so it doesn't surprise me he never responded to him.
@Satori posted:Teams spend months and months negotiating these contracts, some are 70+ pages long. And that's with 1 team and 1 QB, add another team and there's a lot of back and forth. Testosterone too. Glad they put a muzzle on Murphy tho
Both parties know they are headed toward consummation, but the Jets need a little foreplay and the Packers are playing hard-to-get.
There is some speculation the real holdup is Rodgers trying to renegotiate a deal with the Jets. I think if he plays in 2024 he gets 32 million. I'm sure he wants more than that.
After listening to the Gute interview I think there will be a lot of Rodgers stories swirling around after the trade is finalized. I have a feeling plenty of nice has been being said about Rodgers that really isn't the case. If he's that disrespectful to the FO you can bet other people felt that as well.
@vitaflo posted:Yup. Doesn't surprise me. Gute also said that when he finally was able to get a hold of his agent, he was told Aaron wanted to be traded to the Jets. But Aaron ghosted him.
I'm curious how that evolves. My guess is that he wanted to become a Jet when Hackett got hired and never felt that way prior to that. To me, that's not enough reason to make a move like that. There are other factors to consider. Ghosting the FO is one thing but going on McAfee and claiming the Packers went behind his back really makes Rodgers look unprofessional.
Fake news. Aaron Rodgers is all duckies and bunnies. He’s cured cancer and figured out a way to solve the energy crisis and brokered a peace accord between Russia and Ukraine.
Sincerely, the “pro Rodgers crowd”
Go Gute go
@mattschneidman: Brian Gutekunst on Aaron Rodgers: "Certainly whenever a player may have issues, you prefer that they talk to you directly and not do it in the media, but that's not necessarily the way he goes about it and that's OK."
@packerboi posted:Yep. Which once again leads you to believe AR was full of shit on MaCafee 12 days ago regarding GB’s communication towards him. Or at the very least, left out important facts like oh, I left the Packers on read and never returned their calls.
He doesn’t leave out important facts. He told everybody he was immunized.
If I’m the Packers and it’s true they aren’t asking for a 1, then it’s the Jets dragging their feet. So give them a deadline.
Given the way things are transpiring with Rodgers and the Jets you could pull the plug and bench his ass ala Jimmy G or Derek Carr. And let the Jets fan base revolt. Karma is a biatch as Gute is the only one that’s sounding and acting like a functioning adult. Rodgers is the 16 year old that wasn’t asked to the prom.
@H5 posted:Saleh on Zach Wilson: "He's our No. 2." #Jets
— Rich Cimini (@RichCimini) March 27, 2023
He absolutely is a no.2.
Rodgers also said early in the off season it would not take long for him to decide. He took until a day or two before free agency to tell the packers. Thankfully he did not take his time.
“Have your people call my people.”
Fuck him.
@Tschmack posted:If I’m the Packers and it’s true they aren’t asking for a 1, then it’s the Jets dragging their feet. So give them a deadline.
Given the way things are transpiring with Rodgers and the Jets you could pull the plug and bench his ass ala Jimmy G or Derek Carr. And let the Jets fan base revolt. Karma is a biatch as Gute is the only one that’s sounding and acting like a functioning adult. Rodgers is the 16 year old that wasn’t asked to the prom.
This just in: Jet fans are revolting.
The trade is currently orbiting a deal that would swap Rodgers for two high draft picks, according to multiple sources who spoke with Yahoo Sports. The sources characterized a deal as getting “closer” despite stiff negotiation over how those picks would stack up and whether the package would include “give back” protection for the Jets if Rodgers does not play beyond the 2023 season.
As it stands, talks are focused on the Jets dealing two picks for the Packers quarterback — one second-round pick in next month's NFL Draft, and another second-rounder in 2024 that could graduate to a first-round pick with “achievable” team performance escalators. An example of such an escalator would be if the Jets were to host a home divisional playoff game or advance to the AFC championship game. A sticking point in the talks is the Jets seeking an element of protection built into the trade, specifically one that sends some 2025 draft compensation to New York from Green Bay if Rodgers does not play in 2024 and beyond. - Charles Robinson of Yahoo
It’s more than I thought it would be to be honest with you, I don’t like the give back in 2025 though
So based on the Yahoo story what the deal is:
- 2023 2nd
- 2024 2nd that can turn into a 1st
The hold up is the Jets demanding:
- Packers give up picks in 2025 if Rodgers doesn't play in 2024
I think Gute is right to dig his heals in here. Whether Rodgers plays in 2024 is not the Packers problem.
@titmfatied posted:The trade is currently orbiting a deal that would swap Rodgers for two high draft picks, according to multiple sources who spoke with Yahoo Sports. The sources characterized a deal as getting “closer” despite stiff negotiation over how those picks would stack up and whether the package would include “give back” protection for the Jets if Rodgers does not play beyond the 2023 season.
Does "give back" protection include some form of higher pick on the front end? I could understand a graduated pick based on performance or postseason team success. But why should GB give the Jets any type of assurance that they themselves never even had in 18 years? Not to mention particularly in the last 3 years.If a deal is done and Rodgers tears his ACL in week 1, does GB have to pay for his surgery and rehab as well? Do they want Gute to promise that the NY media will lay off Aaron if the Jets suck, too? If that's really a sticking point, how realistic is this negotiation?
Less than half of the haul they would have gotten last year, if accurate.
Gute sucks.
I was told Aaron Rodgers and Matt LaFleur would have game plan meetings to give Rodgers more say.
— Zach Gelb (@ZachGelb) March 28, 2023
Sometimes Rodgers would show to the meeting and other times he would just leave Matt sitting there with no word that Aaron wasn’t going to show up. @CBSSportsRadio pic.twitter.com/G3N9K4SbhH
That's pretty shitty tbh. No first round, no packaged 2nd. For this year just tossing us the 2nd they got for Moore.
Sorry but that's sloppy 2nds
@BrainDed posted:Less than half of the haul they would have gotten last year, if accurate.
Gute sucks.
Of the three headed monster I would say Gute would be the one that would have been in favor of trading Rodgers to Denver. He drafted Love and became Rodgers enemy on that day.