Wizard wand pretty tiny?
@YATittle posted:What an idea. IF we get Carr, we could be the only team in NFL history to have TWO guys from Bakersfield as QBs.
A trivia fact with a interested base of one.
@Henry posted:That's why I wear a onesie.
It would be quicker to wear your birthday suit.
@PackLandVA posted:Wizard wand pretty tiny?
Wizard staff.
#Packers
— Doug Clawson (@doug_clawson) January 3, 2022
Aaron Rodgers vs NFC North
Last 2 Seasons (36 TD, 0 Int)
MIN 4 TD, 0 Int
DET 2 TD, 0 Int
MIN 3 TD, 0 Int
CHI 4 TD, 0 Int
DET 3 TD, 0 Int
CHI 4 TD, 0 Int
DET 4 TD, 0 Int
CHI 2 TD, 0 Int
MIN 4 TD, 0 Int
CHI 4 TD, 0 Int
MIN 2 TD, 0 Int
@Dr._Bob posted:But is he still elite?
Let the Mannings decide that tonight on MNF. Because you can't spell elite without Eli.
Hub Arkush supposedly said he has a vote for MVP but will not be giving it to Aaron Rodgers. He says he is the best player on the field but doesnt deserve it. I wish I still had Pro Football talk so I could cancel them. Of course Hub doesnt deserve anyone to follow him. His company took a lot of money from folks back in the 80s then went out of business. What a putz....
I disagree with his choice but I don’t disagree with some of his reasons.
On the field, he's unparalleled.
Off the field Rodgers is now doing everything he can to make decent, intelligent people feel Favre is the better person.
better person? The guy just sent over a million of his own money to help the people affected by the wild fires. He assisted the BarStool owner in helping people affected by the fires. He fought for things in the off season the front office should have already done and looks like he was right. Seems like Rodgers is a pretty good guy on his own right. The fact he made a choice on the vaccine I did not make doesnt make him a bad guy. A lot of people I know chose differently than I did but they are not bad people. If that is the bar to deciding who is bad or not then this place will not ever resolve their issues.
The Vaccination issue surprised me, but I don't condemn him for it....however, the situation with his family is bothersome. I watch every one of his pressers and he lavishes praise and gratitude for everyone expect his parents. He grew up very comfortably but never seems to acknowledge that. As far as donated $ to victims of wild fires, as his brother said when he did the same during the California wildfires ....it would have been nice if he had taken a minute to call his mother to check on her safety. I want to like the guy, but a line from a song keeps ringing in my ears "man turns his back on his family ...he just ain't no good".
Family dynamics are strange and you never know what caused what. Could be money, could be women, could be a multitude of reasons. I was estranged from my older brother for over 30 years until we reconciled a few weeks ago. Shit happens in families. Why is Aaron the one that gets blamed?
What if instead of getting covid mid-season and losing to an AFC team, he got it right before a playoff game, similar to Cousins/MIN situation but worse. He made a decision that could have put a lot more people in a much worse position with respect to the team's ultimate success. It didn't happen but it was not a good decision.
Hard to argue with either tweet..
And we let guys like @Hub_Arkush vote for awards and all-pros. Real flaw system. Trash stystem of picking who votes. https://t.co/CJsNEYxK57
— Casey Hayward (@show_case29) January 5, 2022
I've seen this narrative for a few weeks now and tried to ignore it but I'm done.
— Eli Berkovits (@BookOfEli_NFL) January 4, 2022
Like Aaron Rodgers, dislike Rodgers, that has 𝗮𝗯𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 to do with his play on the field.
Beyond unprofessional to place your vote based on anything other than football. https://t.co/9lb2tWTxkj
@Floridarob posted:better person? The guy just sent over a million of his own money to help the people affected by the wild fires. He assisted the BarStool owner in helping people affected by the fires. He fought for things in the off season the front office should have already done and looks like he was right. Seems like Rodgers is a pretty good guy on his own right. The fact he made a choice on the vaccine I did not make doesnt make him a bad guy. A lot of people I know chose differently than I did but they are not bad people. If that is the bar to deciding who is bad or not then this place will not ever resolve their issues.
I’ll add that he attempted to keep his opinion private. He wasn’t championing his position until he got pushed into a corner.
But, media tells us we must hate people who we disagree with. So let that hate flow through your heart like Clayton Bigsby.
@DH13 posted:What if instead of getting covid mid-season and losing to an AFC team, he got it right before a playoff game, similar to Cousins/MIN situation but worse. He made a decision that could have put a lot more people in a much worse position with respect to the team's ultimate success. It didn't happen but it was not a good decision.
This fallacy doesn’t consider that it’s possible, even likely, that he would still get covid if vaccinated. Evidenced by the hundreds of players each week who are vaccinated but still out.
@FLPACKER posted:The Vaccination issue surprised me, but I don't condemn him for it....however, the situation with his family is bothersome. I watch every one of his pressers and he lavishes praise and gratitude for everyone expect his parents. He grew up very comfortably but never seems to acknowledge that. As far as donated $ to victims of wild fires, as his brother said when he did the same during the California wildfires ....it would have been nice if he had taken a minute to call his mother to check on her safety. I want to like the guy, but a line from a song keeps ringing in my ears "man turns his back on his family ...he just ain't no good".
What’s strange is that you give a shit about the guys personal life. Even worse, believe that you have a fucking clue about it. Where you fainting in the front row of the Backstreet Boys concert when you were a kid too?
@BrainDed posted:This fallacy doesn’t consider that it’s possible, even likely, that he would still get covid if vaccinated. Evidenced by the hundreds of players each week who are vaccinated but still out.
Wrong. It does consider the fact that the vaccinated have a shorter (potentially 24hrs) and easier path to return to action than the unvaccinated (10 days per NFL rules), decreasing the risk of missing games. Which was the point of my post. The unvaccinated can even miss games via 5 day quarantine if they simply have close contact.
@Henry posted:Win a fucking Super Bowl
Yes. Rodgers is really playing for his legacy right now. He's a first-ballot unanimous HOF player if he retired tomorrow. He has been for 5 years. 3 MVPs vs. 4 MVPs don't make any difference in how he will be viewed.
Fair or not, what will make a difference is if he can win another title. Right now, he's top 10 all-time, but he's got one title, just like HOF guys like Steve Young, Favre, Kurt Warner, Mahomes (so far), Russell Wilson, and Drew Brees. I think Rodgers is better than all those guys, but if his career ends with only 1 ring, that's his peer group.
The HOF QBs who have won multiple titles are Brady, Montana, Bradshaw, Elway, Big Ben, Staubach, Griese, P. Manning, E. Manning (Maybe a HOFer?), Starr, and Aikman. Plunkett has also won 2, but he's not a HOFer.
If Rodgers wins another title (with only Mason Crosby as a teammate for both titles), he immediately vaults into the conversation of being somewhere between 2 and 6 all-time for QBs.
1. Brady
2-6. Montana, P. Manning, Montana, Rodgers, Unitas
There are "normal" HOFers and then there are transcendent players who are considered the true greatest of all time types. If he wins another, he'll be considered at the level of Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, Unitas, Montana, Reggie White, Don Hutson, Walter Payton, Lawrence Taylor, etc.
I'm still hoping for three Super Bowl rings for Rodgers.
Exactly, just think of how Jim Kelly, Marv Levy and the Bills teams resume/legacy would read IF they would have won one of those games, just one. Win one and they would not be mentioned as SB losers.
Win 2 and they would have been in the realm of the greatest.
@BrainDed posted:What’s strange is that you give a shit about the guys personal life. Even worse, believe that you have a fucking clue about it. Where you fainting in the front row of the Backstreet Boys concert when you were a kid too?
I really didn't think my post would generate the kind of anger that a 13 year girl would display over someone calling their boyfriend ugly.... and by the way the Backstreet boys were born yet when I was a "kid".
@Henry posted:Win a fucking Super Bowl
Exactly! All these awards, popularity contests. Who gives a fuck? The results on the field. No one can take those away.