When it comes to playoffs he is oveerrated. And overcompensated.
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â Brad Simon (@bksim0n) January 31, 2022
Rumor has is all22 shows Mahomes missing throws after losing another big game at home.
If so, it is fair he receive criticism for it.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Rumor has is all22 shows Mahomes missing throws after losing another big game at home.
Must be going around
@FLPACKER posted:If so, it is fair he receive criticism for it.
I believe the time for reasonable criticism has passed.
Here's what I think Rodgers can be criticized for: his inability to trust receivers other than Adams. Deguara was so wide open on some of those plays that it should have been pitch-and-catch. Instead, Rodgers punishes him by not throwing his way under any circumstances. Pettiness for missing the TD throw some weeks ago? Who knows, but it's ridiculous that Rodgers does not make his WRs better. Say what you will about Brady and how he might have bitched out his teammates, but even with mediocre receivers he still threw them the ball.
If AR can't even throw a checkdown to Deguara it's a fatal flaw in his game and it's time for the team to move on.
@MichiganPacker posted:You can get Jack Coan in Round 6 or 7. He just wins games.
Actually I wouldn't be opposed to drafting someone like that. I can live with a QB who is more of a game manager who can just win games. Having a super star QB is great but you will more often than not be up tight against the cap because you have to pay the super star.
Deguara had a huge drop in the game that was in his hands
Not saying you should never throw to him, but he drops another an this board is going nuts that we are even throwing at him anymore
It also somewhat depends on the type of route / pass. Yes, Deguara running full speed across the middle having to catch one above his shoulder pads is "iffy" and idk if it would be wise to make that pass ....however these were simple check downs most high school receivers would catch.
@FLPACKER posted:It also somewhat depends on the type of route / pass. Yes, Deguara running full speed across the middle having to catch one above his shoulder pads is "iffy" and idk if it would be wise to make that pass ....however these were simple check downs most high school receivers would catch.
Yeah Love threw him a short pass he turned into a touchdown against the Lions.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Deguara had a huge drop in the game that was in his hands
Not saying you should never throw to him, but he drops another an this board is going nuts that we are even throwing at him anymore
You catch 100% of the passes not thrown to you.
Business of Football: The End of Green Bayâs Aaron Rodgers Era Is Imminent
New column from Brandt.
Fell in our lap!
Let the rumors/reports/"I've been told,.."/ extravaganza begin..
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â Eli Berkovits (@BookOfEli_NFL) February 2, 2022
Last Fri my friend Red said Rodgers to Titans with Tannehill in return. I said maybe but draft picks from Denver are a lot higher than TN (AFC #1 seed) and GB locked in on Love starting for 2-3 years so any vet QB would be backup. Tannehill is still a starter despite his playoff TOs.
I heard Rodgers spent 3 days in GB meeting with FO etc. That MAY indicate a willingness to play in GB but at least he is getting all the information firsthand before he makes a decision. Does he consider GB a rebuild, or reload in 2022? Does Brady retiring make him more likely to stay in GB? I can't imagine GB letting him go to NFC team (TB, SF or NO which is in rebuild mode). But AFC-ya!
I floated this idea (12 to TEN) right after TEN lost to CIN and wondered what their cap situation was. Someone responded TEN is on the hook for way too much $$ to do anything with Tannehill. It would have to be a trade and contract redo. No idea if that kind of thing would work in this situation.
Aaron Rodgers just loves country music and wants to move to Nashville area, a hot hipster hangout, to pal around with his buddy Jack White who also lives in Franklin, TN. Oh yeah, there is a football team there too.
How is that for click bait?
@GreenBayLA posted:Last Fri my friend Red said Rodgers to Titans with Tannehill in return. I said maybe but I can't imagine GB letting him go to NFC team (TB, SF or NO which is in rebuild mode). But AFC-ya!
Well, besides the obvious problem of sending him to the NFC in general, TB is going to lose players too. Gronk is going to retire. Godwin, JPP, Fournette and Suh are all UFA's and some of them won't be coming back. Brady is counting $32m against their cap for not playing.
SF will start Trey Lance next year given what they gave up for him. SF has the same situation as GB with Love but SF gave up WAY more to get Lance.
NO is total rebuild cap hell so that's not going to happen either.
I'd rather not have Tannehill anywhere near Lambeau. Losing record at Miami, playoff record of 7 TD but 5 INT for Titans. Stay far far far away.
@GreenBayLA posted:Aaron Rodgers just loves country music and wants to move to Nashville area, a hot hipster hangout, to pal around with his buddy Jack White who also lives in Franklin, TN. Oh yeah, there is a football team there too.
How is that for click bait?
Sounds like another wise property investment.
Rodgers to TN makes the most sense to me personally on the surface. Theyâre a SB contender with a good coach, AFC team, etc. If we GBâs intention would be to get Tannehill in any deal you could name him the starter and have Love sit another year, or even have an open QB competition in camp. If you ended up releasing him who cares as heâs not part of your long term plans and hopefully you get a a lot more in picks, etc to justify the trade. Itâs also a lot easier to have Love replace Tannehill mid season if he blows then it ever would be to have him replace a shitty Rodgers. That would never happen, but just thinking out loud. The TN possibility just seems logical and Iâm fine with it should it happen.
@GreenBayLA posted:Aaron Rodgers just loves country music and wants to move to Nashville area, a hot hipster hangout, to pal around with his buddy Jack White who also lives in Franklin, TN. Oh yeah, there is a football team there too.
How is that for click bait?
Probably unrelated, but didnât Clay Matthews sell his LA place and also build in the Nashville. No idea if itâs in the same area. Maybe they compared notes?
If we wound up with either Tannehill or Wilson in a break-up with Rodgers, weâre still a playoff team.
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â Bill Huber (@BillHuberSI) February 3, 2022
Interesting betting odds on where AR could end up (Tennessee is far down the list).
Tennessee doesn't have much in the way of draft picks though.
Round 1 (#26)
No round 2 pick
Then picks in Rounds 3,4,5,6
I thought I saw it's a cap issue with TN.
They'd be on the cap hook for over 50 million if Tannehill isn't on their roster next year?
@Blair Kiel posted:If we wound up with either Tannehill or Wilson in a break-up with Rodgers, weâre still a playoff team.
If they wound up with Tannehill, they'd be a little worse, but still a contender. He's the classic Jimmy G, Jared Goff type that you can win with but you always want to try to improve on.
If they wound up with Wilson, they would be a better cold-weather playoff team assuming Wilson still has his mobility.
It's not going to happen, but I'd trade Rodgers for Wilson straight up right now. Wilson is 5 years younger, also a future HOFer, and he's a better cold-weather QB. Heck, I might even throw in a first rounder with Rodgers given you'll get several more years out of Wilson and not have to deal with the drama and press coverage Rodgers will now get for the rest of his career. Whatever you think of Rodgers' opinions, he's now elevated himself to the where he draws eyeballs to games and generates clicks. People tune in to root specifically against him and the media circus probably hurts focus at some level.
I still think Rodgers is most likely back in Green Bay and Wilson is back in Seattle. Trades are hard in the NFL with the cap which may make it impossible to move Wilson. But maybe you could work some 3-way trade to get Rodgers to Denver, have Denver send some of their draft capital to Seattle, and end up Wilson in Green Bay. That fits the needs of all the teams - Rodgers gets what he wanted last off-season, Wilson gets what he wants, Green Bay just reloads and is a Super Bowl contender, and Seattle can start the rebuild.
Wilson is a better cold weather QB?
Every time I remember GB playing SEA at Lambeau in winter the last several years, Wilson sucked. AR is not a bad cold weather QB. He's a bad cold weather playoff QB.
Am I anymore right now?
I was hoping someone else would do my homework for me but I guess not....
Yeah, no. I don't care enough.
For whatever reason Wilson has not looked like the younger Wilson recently. Injuries, aging, bad team, coach/player relationship? One or all could be factors. He will be 34 next season and while not necessarily old these days he has taken a lot of hits, even if ducked most of them.
Ok, I looked, it appears if cut it is a 57 mil hit.
According to Overthecap, a trade before June 1 would be a 28.4 hit for TN this year, 10.2 the next.
Post June 1 9.6 this year, 29 next year.
Looks like TN has 24.5 mil space going into 2022. So a trade would put them over plus having to take on/restructure AR12.
My final answer is that it is almost economically impossible for a TN trade.
A smarter cap expert than I can confirm or refute.
@DH13 posted:Wilson is a better cold weather QB?
Every time I remember GB playing SEA at Lambeau in winter the last several years, Wilson sucked. AR is not a bad cold weather QB. He's a bad cold weather playoff QB.
Agreed about AR.
The teams Wilson played on for the last 4-5 years have had terrible offensive lines. It's hard to judge him because of that.
I guess my point was that Wilson's ability to scramble for first downs might make him a better fit for the Packers right now. If he's lost that mobility, then that's different.
Seattle can keep Wilson and GB can keep AR. Make a run again for next year. Extend AR.
You lose the defensive players we are about to lose, plus Davante Adams and the cap issues of keeping Rodgers around, I just don't see a run happening. We most likely will have a couple of rough years that could extend longer, but it would be pretty disappointing not getting the top trade value for Rodgers/Adams and still losing to a game managing QB in the playoffs next year.