@D J posted:That is how the Giants beat the Patriots twice in the SB. A pass rush crew.
Sort of like having Reggie White, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, and Gilbert Brown as your DL?
Or like having a slightly less dominant version of that with young BJ Raji, Cullen Jenkins, Ryan Pickett, and CM3 as your primary 4 pass rushers?
@MichiganPacker posted:Sort of like having Reggie White, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, and Gilbert Brown as your DL?
Or like having a slightly less dominant version of that with young BJ Raji, Cullen Jenkins, Ryan Pickett, and CM3 as your primary 4 pass rushers?
Funny how that works, eh.
@packerboi posted:The NFL cannot water down the standards for the HOF. It should continue to be very hard to get into.
Lynch and Atwater were in at Safety, especially before Butler.
what sports writer for the Packers was made to leave the room before Bart would take any questions? Was that Christl?
@Floridarob posted:what sports writer for the Packers was made to leave the room before Bart would take any questions? Was that Christl?
Biegle?
Yes it was Dave Begel. And ilcuque, I meant Christl had an axe to grind with Starr at the time, not with the Packers.
@packerboi posted:Someone posted a tweet im too tired to look up right now early this week. The jest was Stafford has never made All Pro, he’s only been to the Pro Bowl once, he’s never been an MVP, and he’s never been in the top 4-5 in major QB categories (e.g ratings) to lead his position in his career either. Prior to this year, I believe he won one playoff game.
In short, he’s not even close to be considered for the HOF and that includes having this SB win.
The NFL cannot water down the standards for the HOF. It should continue to be very hard to get into.
I agree. I think to make the HOF you should be a top 3 to 5 guy at your position for at least a good 3-5 year stretch at some point in your career. Rivers and Stafford don't qualify there.
But when it comes time I don't think voters are going to look very hard at that. They are going to look at a couple of guys with over 60,000 yards and 400 TD's and say they qualify. They will have to wait, though. I bet about 5 years each unless Stafford has some real success his final years. And maybe by then there will be other guys like Matt Ryan and ??? that make the voters think a little harder about those numbers. Because if you let in Rivers and Stafford you can't shut out Ryan. And there will be similar guys following that accumulate numbers but don't check the other boxes.
Agree.. it should be less about stats and more about your standing in the era you played. Stafford and Ryan are not hall of fame worthy in my opinion.
Brady, Big Ben, Manning and Rodgers are who come to mind for me over the past 20 years.
Speaking of Manning, is Eli getting in?
Oh, and the other obvious guy over the past 20 is Brees.
Eli will get in with 2 Owl wins, name and playing in NY. Brees will get in too based on yardage alone.
OMGOSH….#12 and the actress are done!!!!!! TMZ just had the scoop. Weren’t spending enough time together. He spent to much time on football she said. Ah, ya think??? 😂 🤣 😂
Maybe she'll date a pilot next and complain he spends too much time flying airplanes??
Good! I thought she was nasty and pretty much made him Fruitier than a Nutcake!
Actually, turns out she was the sane one on more than a few things, which I will refrain from mentioning because pusscakes.
@Packiderm posted:Eli will get in with 2 Owl wins, name and playing in NY. Brees will get in too based on yardage alone.
Brees will get in because he works for NBC
Who is Nicole Auerbach and did she just discover the Packers weren't in the Super Bowl?
The farther Rodgers stays away from Starlets and race car drivers, the better off he will be.
He can be a dumbfuck all by his lonesome.
@Packiderm posted:Eli will get in with 2 Owl wins, name and playing in NY. Brees will get in too based on yardage alone.
AND his Monday Night broadcasts with his brother will keep his media profile high enough to get him enough votes.
@Packiderm posted:The farther Rodgers stays away from Starlets and race car drivers, the better off he will be.
I'm going to need a full report on what type of woman Rodgers should date and how it will affect his ability to take football seriously.
Personally, I'm hoping he hooks up with Gina Carano and achieves his final form.
@ammo posted:This goes right along with the drafting Joe Montana. Bart Starr's book had one version and the story by Christl was just the opposite. Since it appears Christl has an axe to grind I trust the story in Starr's book.
FWIW, Russ Cochran, John (Red) Cochran's son, and a co-worker of mine, told me the story and it lines up with Christl's version. Said his Dad left the draft room after Montana was selected in the 3rd round. Said Bart had his mind made up and would not listen to the scouts.
Somebody be fibbin'
Fog of war(room)
if AR wants to experience true peace and one with the universe he needs to get on the ice and do some fishing before March
Chill his taint?
Should try a super model next? Hey, it worked for dimple boy.
Good grief, I find myself actually reading this and wondering about it. Next, I will be paying attention to what the Kardashians and royals are up to. Shame on me!
Here is the piece that’s from. Don’t think it’s fair to say Rodgers has only really been Rodgers of late in the Cowboys games in ‘14 and ‘16.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) February 17, 2022
He was really good in the divisional rounds the last two years. GB 7-9 in playoffs since SB though. https://t.co/vGsoDrF1De
Rodgers is within 51 TD passes of 500 for his career. He is within 7 Interceptions of 100. As risk adverse as he is to throwing pics I can see him getting even more risk adverse the closer he gets to 500. Of his last 51 Tds he has thrown six or seven pics so it is going to be close.
The whole narrative of him being too cautious as a reason he hasn't been successful in the playoffs in a crock. People point out that Stafford threw two picks in SB but still won ... the first one was the equivalent of a punt and the second one was off the WR's hands .... the Rams won the game because of one thing ....the Bengals o-line couldn't block them. The last pass to Adams was far riskier than if he'd thrown to Lazard..... being "risk adverse" had nothing to do with it.
Aaron Rodgers agent is David Dunne. Jordan Loves agent is David Dunne. Can someone splain how the same agent can represent both players when one of his clients will suffer. I also read where Dunn negotiated a fully-guaranteed contract for Love when he was drafted. But if Dunn fully represents one of those two QB for the best deal available then the other client suffers. It makes no sense...
@FLPACKER posted:The whole narrative of him being too cautious as a reason he hasn't been successful in the playoffs in a crock. People point out that Stafford threw two picks in SB but still won ... the first one was the equivalent of a punt and the second one was off the WR's hands .... the Rams won the game because of one thing ....the Bengals o-line couldn't block them. The last pass to Adams was far riskier than if he'd thrown to Lazard..... being "risk adverse" had nothing to do with it.
You gotta get creative when you're going to blame one guy for the entirety of the Packers playoff failures.
@Henry posted:You gotta get creative when you're going to blame one guy for the entirety of the Packers playoff failures.
I don't blame him for the entirety, but he certainly didn't rise to the occasion. Given that special teams were atrocious all year, biggest differential in regular season vs playoff performance was the QB position, followed by coaching.
If risk-aversion was the reason AR didn't go to certain receivers (including basic checkdowns) then it certainly was a factor in the loss. The throw to Adams was just a piss-poor decision and you can attribute to to whatever you desire.
Bottom line: at crunch time with the game on the line the NLF MVP came up woefully short in the postseason (again).
