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@Boris posted:

Commanders = Not a chance, they just drafted Jayden Daniels

I included commanders because WFT needs to sell tickets, build a new stadium and rebuild the fan base.  Jefferson is a shiny new toy who can help with that effort.

And they are absolutely loaded with cap space plus a cheep QB for a few seasons. WFT sitting on $43M this year and $100M+ in cap space next year.

@Satori posted:

I included commanders because WFT needs to sell tickets, build a new stadium and rebuild the fan base.  Jefferson is a shiny new toy who can help with that effort.

And they are absolutely loaded with cap space plus a cheep QB for a few seasons. WFT sitting on $43M this year and $100M+ in cap space next year.

WFT? Don't they have a 50 year waiting list? Don't tell me Dan Snyder somehow eroded the loyalty of that fan base.

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The Vikes may have waited 1 year too long to deal Jefferson, if they were looking forward far enough for that to be the plan.
I don't think they can afford an additional $20M dead cap hit, and that limits their leverage with other teams.

@Goalline posted:

WFT? Don't they have a 50 year waiting list? Don't tell me Dan Snyder somehow eroded the loyalty of that fan base.

I moved to DC and lived there for the first 10 years Snyder owned that team.

They were excited for the first few years because he was brining in star players in free agency but they were for most part players who were way over the hill.

But, then the excitement wore off and they couldn't give tickets away.  At one point Snyder had seats taken out of Fedex field because no one was buying those tickets anymore.  I talk to friends who live there and they are thrilled Snyder is gone but they are cautiously optimistic with new ownership and the possibility of a new stadium. 

Always a tough call to tie up that much money in a player that's not a QB, a LT or an elite edge rusher.

As much as it hurt me for obvious reasons, trading Davante for draft picks was the best move possible long term for the team. Glad he didn't accept our huge offer.

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I am all in favor of the Vikings paying 6 more players on their team 35 mill a year.  That would be the definition of "cap hell".  And everyone else playing for real peanuts.  More NFC North entertainment. 

Cadence in overturning a roster is important. It doesn't seem wise to give that contract out to Jefferson when they're in the beginning stages of developing a QB. Best case scenario, imo, is system over talent with the QB at the helm. This seems like plan B when they couldn't move him for propper value at the draft.

The Packers have multiple generations of institutional knowledge learning the WR lesson. From 84 to 86 to 84 again to 85 to 17; once they see themselves as a #1 there's likely a messy road ahead for any number of reasons. It sounds petty but WRs need to know their place in the pecking order. Even Driver took some wild stabs at getting more money when he was at his best.

Jefferson is undeniably one of the most talented receivers of his generation. Now we'll see who he really is after reaching the summit. There's not many Larry Fitzgeralds at that position. Most like to give themselves undue credit for the teams success and start pointing fingers when things aren't going according to plan or looking for a way to a better situation when the future might not be so bright.

It will be interesting to see if he can remain patient as a new, raw QB finds his way, or if he becomes a malcontent.
I'd say that it's not likely he will be generating huge numbers for the next year or more. If he's happy with that (and $35M/yr would make me pretty damn happy!), good for him, but most WRs with his talent level seek fame and glory.

The biggest worry I have about guaranteeing a WR that kind of $$$ is there's always the chance that an ACL will waste the better part of half of that contract.
Injuries obviously happen at other positions, but WRs are especially vulnerable.

I just can't see paying that much for a guy who is working with an unproven QB. They don't even know if they have anyone who can get him the ball with consistency. I'm skeptical that as great as Jefferson is, neither Darnold nor McCarthy will be able to utilize him to the tune of $35 million a year. With Rodgers and Davante, you knew Rodgers could get him the ball wherever, whenever; MN doesn't have that.

And that's where JJ could get frustrated. He would yell at Cousins when Cousins wouldn't toss the ball his way in a tight spot. If Darnold and McCarthy try that, and neither throw as well as Cousins, there should be plenty of interceptions  waiting for the DBs.

The only good I can see is that Addison and Hockenson (coming back from ACL) should get more catches since JJ will be double-teamed. Must be nice to have the money to spend $35 million a year on a great decoy.

There may be a lot of Dunning-Kruger-like syndrome in the vikings' front office. They don't have enough knowledge, about football, to know they don't have enough knowledge, about football.

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@DurangoDoug posted:

Heard their calling that alternate uniform the "Winter Warrior" uniform. What a joke for an indoor team.

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They've been a joke for a long time. It must have been a real ordeal for fans to walk into the Bird Killer, from the parking ramp, in that cold weather!

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@ammo posted:

Wait until they wear those at Lambeau, where real football is played on real grass.  By the 3rd quarter they will be all green.

The snow might camouflage them.

Might be bad!

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