@Henry posted:Do you think it makes a difference if Rodgers was feeling heat all game so his decision making wasn't the best? That's what QB pressures and sacks are about.
So, I could imagine the priority was 1) Don't get murdered. 2) Try to get the ball to the guy who I know will catch it.
QBs make shitty decisions with a DE in their face.
Exactly
@Chongo posted:
Is that Part 1 or Part 2?
I was hoping for Bisaccia because he is Packer people and has 20 yrs ST experience. Joe Judgeâs ST ranked higher than Bisaccia but he is reportedly a jerk and probably taking a paid year off anyways.
Hereâs to Bisaccia creating a culture of competence and winning STs.
To get back on topic, I met John Denver in a hotel bar once. I didnât see God with him but it doesnât mean he wasnât thereâĶ
From Packersnotes yesterday (before signing was official ) :
Not only would Biasucci bring competence to special teams for the first time this century, but heâd be a great addition to the entire roster. Dozens of players from the Raiders have lavished praise on Biasucci in the past few weeks. It was an outpouring of affection thatâs seldom seen in the NFL. Hereâs just one example from corner Nate Hobbsâ Instagram account:
âDear coachâĶ Honestly I donât [know] where to begin. So Iâll start by saying I love you. Since I was 12 I didnât really have a father figure in my life till later, after a while he passed away too. In 2021 coach gruden stepped down and you became my head coach. That year I met another man in my life that believed in me and loved me like a brother. A feeling I hadnât felt in so long. You were the only person I would allow to curse me out severely then tell me that you love me 2 hours later lol. One thing [I] admired about you so much is that when things gotta hectic, the more you appeared to remain even more poised. 2 things you taught me in this lifetime Iâll carry for the rest of my lifetime. âNobody give a f*ckâ, and âPut a lil love in our heart and a smile on ya faceâ. Coach you had my back and believed in me when thousands didnât. And for that I LOVE YOU!â
@michiganjoe posted:From Ben Fennell: ...for those keeping track, Bisaccia hasn't had a kick or punt blocked from his ST units in 5 seasons
Wait till he sees our ST players.
When Murph allowed Silverstein to run with the quote last week from a personnel guy from another NFL team about how Ted never gave a rat's ass about Special Teams and Gute has followed in his former boss's footsteps and also recounted how poor STs play contributed mightily to the 2014 and 2021 NFC Championship game losses, it signified the Packer organization was, finally, admitting it had a systemic STs problem.
The hiring of a legitimate STs coach in Bisaccia is likely to be just the first step in the recovery process.
I look forward to STs improving to at least average within 2-3 years ... or just about the time the Love era should be taking off ... if all goes well.
Not only will Bisaccia improve the special teams, I think he will raise the level of all players.
@Henry posted:What's your point? He never took a paycut. Did he win them on his own like you think Rodgers should?
He never took a pay cut? Oooh, letâs hang him.
Better question. Whatâs YOUR point, this continuous need to yak on and on about his failure to take a pay cut?
Bottomline, go back 10 years. His cap numbers are always significantly below Rodgersâ. Who gives a fuck how he achieves that? Not every year, but large majority of them he is waaay below.
"Biasucci"
I'm reporting him to the Italian-American Anti-Defamation League!
Had a long time college HC tell me once "no one cares about special teams until they're the reason you get beat."
Glad to see we've crossed the ST Rubicon finally.
@Goalline posted:It is hilarious how easily Brady triggers Aaron Rodgers fans. The man won 7 Super Bowls. SEVEN!!!!
Tom Brady did not win 7 super bowls, the teams he played for won 7 while he played qb.
@GBFanForLife posted:Tom Brady did not win 7 super bowls, the teams he played for won 7 while he played qb.
Check his hands. 7 rings. Rodgers? One paltry ring. Chocker!
@michiganjoe posted:The bar is very low in Green Bay and I doubt he'll have any trouble clearing it.
Crack in a sidewalk.
@Goalline posted:He never took a pay cut? Oooh, letâs hang him.
Better question. Whatâs YOUR point, this continuous need to yak on and on about his failure to take a pay cut?
Bottomline, go back 10 years. His cap numbers are always significantly below Rodgersâ. Who gives a fuck how he achieves that? Not every year, but large majority of them he is waaay below.
So basically a non-answer. Got it.
My point has always been to refute the likes of yourself who want to piss down there leg over one player, albeit an important player, instead of recognizing the organization as whole is failing.
Your defense? "Well they can't do anything with Rodgers taking up a huge portion of the cap! Look at Tom Brady!". Rodgers has restructured twice clearing 20 million cap space in the last 3 years.
That is my point.
I agree having a guy like Italian Name Guy will be good all around. Any positive influence, especially with the young guys he'll be directly coaching, can only be a good long term solution.
Plus, a possible viable HC candidate if shit goes south.
@Packiderm posted:Crack in a sidewalk.
Don't step on it ! ! !
@Iowacheese posted:JF - Now more then ever....I really wonder what sites you frequent or what you type into google
I'll send you the link via PM.
"Never took a pay cut."
I've reached the point where, whenever I read that line, I hear it in the voice of Red Buttons at a Dean Martin roast.
@Henry posted:I agree having a guy like Italian Name Guy will be good all around. Any positive influence, especially with the young guys he'll be directly coaching, can only be a good long term solution.
Plus, a possible viable HC candidate if shit goes south.
As someone of Calabrese and Sicilian heritage, I welcome RB. Hope he makes all the current ST fuckups an offer they can't refuse.ð
@Packiderm posted:Crack in a sidewalk.
Hunter's on it.
@Packiderm posted:Crack in a sidewalk.
Beef wouldâĶ.
@Henry posted:So basically a non-answer. Got it.
My point has always been to refute the likes of yourself who want to piss down there leg over one player, albeit an important player, instead of recognizing the organization as whole is failing.
Your defense? "Well they can't do anything with Rodgers taking up a huge portion of the cap! Look at Tom Brady!". Rodgers has restructured twice clearing 20 million cap space in the last 3 years.
That is my point.
Your point sucks. The statistics say no one has won the Super Bowl carrying more than 12% of the cap. No one has been special enough to overcome that. Definitely not Aaron. Thatâs not an accident. It is a team sport. One guy canât take that much. I donât give a shit how that is achieved. Pay cut or not, just leave some money on the table for your teammates.
@Packiderm posted:Crack in a sidewalk.
Or a cross of the Rubicon.
@Goalline posted:Your point sucks. The statistics say no one has won the Super Bowl carrying more than 12% of the cap. No one has been special enough to overcome that. Definitely not Aaron. Thatâs not an accident. It is a team sport. One guy canât take that much. I donât give a shit how that is achieved. Pay cut or not, just leave some money on the table for your teammates.
You mean like the 20 million he cleared in the last 3 years?
Hate to tell you this but Rodgers didn't set the market for QBs. So take it up with the league and quit pissing about Rodgers only.
I don't give a shit if you don't like him, that's personal. His act has worn thin but the cold hard facts are this, he's the guy that gives you best chance. So you either build around him for real or burn it all down. Passing up any shot at a Super Bowl just because your ilk is butthurt over Rodgers isn't very smart.
Maybe if the FO started doing that pre-2021 with the first restructure all this shit last year along with all the last minute pick ups wouldn't have happened.
Just imagine having cap room and a plan months in advance to actually build around Rodgers instead of dicking around as usual "for the future".
From JSO:
If the Packers canât reel in Bisaccia, a good alternative has arisen: former Baltimore Ravens special teams coach Jerry Rosburg, who along with head coach John Harbaugh made the Ravens one of the leagueâs best on special teams from 2008-19.
Rosburg, a source said, is trying to get back into the league after retiring in â19 to spend more time with his family. The Ravens ranked in the top five in special teams in each of his final seven years.
at least it sounds like we have a nice baxkup plan if Biasucci flames out.
I'd be on the phone to both.
I also don't like the whole ifs and buts happening around Biscotti.
Milt has the Ravens connections. He would know if Rossburg is the guy or not. Maybe even a better choice. I don't care either way as long as they are fucking competent.
He's already the best ST's coach we've had in 20 years..
Having 10 players on the field during the 49ers game-winning FG to end the #Packers season was the lowest point for GBâs Special Teams Unit.
â Kyle Malzhan (@KyleMalzhan) February 7, 2022
Hereâs the Packers, reported, new ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia counting his ST players on the field before a kick return late in the 4Q. pic.twitter.com/IAHEt7EYCt
Great, so he can count to twelve.
Must be a witch.
If itâs Rodgers v Jordan Love, well no shit 12 gives you a better chance to win. But letâs stop with aspirations of the Super Bowl. There is absolutely no proof or hope that 12 can get them there.
Thatâs where Iâm at. If you want to win another NFC North title and maybe a playoff game then mortgage the future and bring Rodgers back. For a lot of people- including MLF and the FO - thatâs good enough.
But we need to stop talking about Rodgers leading this team to postseason greatness because heâs not that guy. Could he luck into another title? Itâs possible. But if you have a chance to reset the organIzation in one year with picks and players so be it. Iâm sure this FO will find a way to screw things up.
What canât happen is to let Rodgers walk after 2022 and not get anything back in return.
Imagine how inept your ST's has to be to be impressed by a coach counting his 11 guys out there.
Also, for the people still confused about this topic:
Done deal. Packers hire Rich Bisaccia as special teams coordinator.
#Packers announce that theyâve officially hired Rich Bisaccia as their special teams coordinator. pic.twitter.com/KD9Os0pzBM
â Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) February 8, 2022
We've got bush! We've GOT bush!!!
Good news. I know he doesnât have top 10 STs and uses a lot of starters as special teamers but a new era begins.
Dude seems like a good guy to have around. Not a pole smoker like Arians or Zimmer
So step 1 is done. Step 2 is ponying up the money and draft picks to put talent on that side of the ball. Way too many day 3 picks filled with players with under 2 years experience who filled most of that unit.
Gute needs to get a real returner and sign a Jarrett Bush type to help Bisaccia.
