Tagged With "Orange Bowl"
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Re: Positives and negatives
The "standard" offense continues to look predictable, stale, and overmatched by NFL teams that continue to adjust to things that work. They don't have WRs that can consistently just "get open" and "beat their man". Sometimes the do, but not anything close to consistently. Haven't for the last 2 seasons, yet they simply tell the WRs to beat their man. When they play in a spread formation they at times have more success. But, they use it sparingly until in desperation mode. Manbeaters are not...
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Re: Positives and negatives
Negative: The Packers got exposed as Super Bowl imposters on national TV at Lambeau against a bad and very injured Colts team. Positive: The Packers got exposed as Super Bowl imposters on national TV at Lambeau against a bad and very injured Colts team and it is getting harder and harder to ignore the fundamental deficiencies that exist from top to bottom in the organization.
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Re: Positives and negatives
Positives: We have a very talented team, we have a HOF QB (that is in a slump), good young talent at WR with Ty Montgomery, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Jordy Nelson (for another year or so) and Trevor Davis. One of the best offensive lines in the league. There is a question at TE, hopefully Jarred Cook can get healthy but not much after him. Rodgers can catch the ball but blocks worse than I do. Eddie Lacy when healthy if a credible threat a RB and Rip is improving at FB. On Defense we have...
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Re: Positives and negatives
Cowher had 15 seasons, made playoffs ten times, lost in the AFC championship four times, made two Super Bowl appearances and had one Super Bowl win. Not that dissimilar to McCarthy and his playoff appearance record, and he has been out of coaching 10 years. Not seeing it. Not that this is an endorsement of MM. Since the loss to Seattle in the 2014 championship game, the offense has been mediocre to awful, he and the QB don't appear to be on the same page (or, at least, AR doesn't respect...
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Re: Positives and negatives
No one. We must stick with Mike McCarthy of the rest of eternity, because he won a Super Bowl 6 years ago. And, it's better to stick with something that clearly isn't working instead of risking something may not work either. So stick with the ineffective guy, because you might pick another ineffective guy. Top notch thinking. #leadership
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Re: Positives and negatives
Nice strawman there. Didn't say MM is a coach for life. Just merely asked who the better coach replacement is. Rather simple question. Ready, fire, aim. #set up for failure
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Re: Positives and negatives
First of all, pay me like the Packers top brass who's job it is to live, study, and know these kinds of things. I'll quit my current job and spend from now until the end of the playoffs researching, studying, turning over every rock, consulting with every good football mind I can find, etc.. I'll look into every assistant currently in the NFL, every viable college coach, any head coaches who I think could become available, and every ex-head/assistant coach who is currently not employed and...
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Re: Positives and negatives
I always liked the way Lovie's Chicago teams played D and special teams too GD. Good grief...he got them to the Super Bowl with Rex Frickin' Grossman at QB of all people. I didn't pay any attention to why he flamed out so badly in T.B. so I don't know what happened during his tenure there. Not saying he would be my next head coach, I just like the way his team was built around D and special teams. I agree that having a decent/good Q.B. and OC's were the thing that held him back in Chicago.
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Bingo. The game management in that game cost them a Super Bowl. They had already beaten the Patriots and I think they'd have beaten them again. Oh they did fire Shawn Slocum though, maybe that was good enough.
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There is no point naming names. First off, no one has been fired. Secondly, there are no names that anyone that could list that would satisfy you. Hell, you already listed off 4 coaches that you *know* won't come and it would be stupid to suggest. How about we suggest an OC with no head coaching experience of a sub .500 team? Would that work for you as an answer for your "simple question"? Of course not. You'd **** all over that. YOU WANT TO FIRE A GUY THAT WON THE SUPER BOWL FOR A...
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Re: Playoffs
Speight reportedly will be out for the remainder of the season with a broken collarbone, although he could potentially return for the team's bowl game, according to MGoBlog.com. Mark Snyder of the Detroit Free Press later confirmed the report. However, that contradicts what head coach Jim Harbaugh said Monday, when he called Speight a game-time decision for Saturday's game against Indiana, per Snyder. "It's going to depend on how he feels," Harbaugh said. "Could be a [game-time decision]. We...
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Re: Playoffs
Yeah Baby! I just finished watching the game (TiVO). Took the kids up to Mount Laguna and Julian today and with the rain and traffic, it took forever to get back home. Let's beat Penn State first and then let the chips fall where they may. Beating PSU means at least the Rose Bowl. I would love to be in the top 4 for the playoffs. Our Defense and coaching is definitely Championship caliber. But, I just don't know if the committee believes our offense is a top 4 playoff offense. Let's win the...
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Re: Playoffs
I think they would realize it'd be hard to ignore the B1G champion. Let's just go win that and see how the chips fall. Either way, it's going to be a special bowl season for Bucky. Nobody expected them to do so well with the coaching changes and everything. This season has been amazing and I am damn happy to have been able to watch. The rest upcoming is gravy to me as a fan.
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Re: Playoffs
I think Ohio State is in no matter what. I hate that team but 4 wins against top 10 teams is nothing to sneeze at. Where it could get interesting if it's Penn State that wins the BT championship game and Clemson and Washington don't lose but Penn State beat Ohio State so I think they are also in and in that scenario Washington is probably out. The Wisconsin resume doesn't look as strong now as LSU and Michigan State and Nebraska aren't as good as their rankings were when they played them and...
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Re: Playoffs
This makes no sense. If Washington beats Colorado they have only 1 loss. How does this make Badgers safe except safely in the Rose Bowl?
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The B1G is a tougher gauntlet for sure. If things were being decided now I think Wisconsin has a better case than Washington, but if Washington pounds Colorado (a top 10 team) and Wisconsin does not win convincingly, which they haven't always done this year, then I think the committee sides with Washington. B1G doesn't have much representation on the committee besides Alvarez. I'm sure he will make his case, but I'm not sure it will be enough. Ultimately that's what it comes down to, we can...
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Re: Playoffs
Right and that is the win-win scenario for WI if they beat Penn St. We can all have fun and argue for a spot in the playoff, but if we don't get in....Rose Bowl vs Colorado will much more fun to watch than having to face Alabama.
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I hate the "I'd rather play in the Rose Bowl instead of facing Bama" argument. Getting a chance to play Bama in this scenario is why you play the game.
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Re: Playoffs
I have to agree. Best case scenario was Michigan winning and Bucky winning the title game. Now even if Bucky wins, they are still going be be considered a lesser 2 win team. And, TBH, Michigan did beat both the B1G champs regardless. My argument would be that Bucky did not lose at Iowa like Michigan did... but head to head should count too. I would have loved a Michigan/Bucky title game. It would have been epic. But, it's not what is.... I can see the national arguments for what it should be...
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Re: Playoffs
It'd be a really bad precedent to put OSU and Michigan in and leave out the real Big 10 champ. For that reason, I think Michigan is done. And I actually don't like OSU being in - if you can't win your own conference, you don't deserve a chance to play for the national title. Not that anyone cares, but they should get rid of the Big 12, sending Texas and TCU to the Pac 12, West Virginia and Kansas to the ACC, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St to the SEC. Iowa St, Kansas St, Texas Tech, and Baylor...
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Re: Playoffs
I've been reading some things the last couple days that say Michigan will likely be the odd man out. The winner of Wisconsin/Penn St. will likely get the 4th playoff spot if either Clemson or Washington lose, sending UMich to the Rose Bowl to face the Pac12 championship loser. There was also talk that if Clemson or Washington struggle with their championship opponent and Wisconsin or Penn St. win convincingly, that the top 10 could reshuffle with the B1G winner leapfrogging a couple teams.
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Chris Peterson, James Franklin and Paul Chryst are pleading with the committee to rank them no higher than fifth. Relax, I know they aren't. Wisc/Penn State Vs Wash in the Rose Bowl would be a good game. Badgers would of course be my preference. I hope Clemson has a rough time tonite, dropping them to 4. Put Mich at 3 vs 2 OSU. Bama, OSU, Mich and Clemson are IMO the best 4 teams.
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Re: Playoffs
That's about it isn't it? Things take care of themselves. Wisconsin has had an incredible season but they were not one of the 4 best teams. No signature wins and that matters at this point. Losing close games is still losing close games. They will likely get a decent bowl game and they need to end the season strong and win the damn thing as they are capable of doing to cap a really good year.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg
IN all seriousness yes, the division is still there to be had. As far as getting hot and making a run if they do get in...not so much. I do think MM is gone barring a Super Bowl. I think TT gets one more year, if he wants it. IN pro sports coaches go first then the responsibility falls on the players and if the crap show continues then they will start to see the exit door.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg
You are right man, that just goes to show how bad our division is right now. If they can take care of business in division (win all 3 at the end of season) and win 3 of the next 4 games. They finish 10-6 and that would be good enough. 9-7 might be cutting it.. so 2-2 coupled with winning the last 3 might be good enough too... but they need to win those division games for certain.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg
I agree with you, and yet I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative. I will say that Seattle made the playoffs as a 7-9 division champ in 2010, then won a Super Bowl 3 years later. That said, if the Pack were to win this division at 7-9, I don't feel like that would be a springboard to anything other than a quiet whimpering of a quick and dirty playoff exit.
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board
Brian Kelly would also have to be fired. In 2015, Brian Kelly's ND went 10-3 and ended up #11 in the final poll. They lost by 2 points at Clemson (#2 in final poll), by 2 points at Stanford (#3), and to Ohio State in the bowl game (#4). Yes. Notre Dame is down this year, but I can't imagine them firing him less than a year removed from an outstanding season.
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board
Brian Kelly is much like MM....very stubborn, overly loyal to terrible assistant coaches, can't commit to the run game, and is not able to adjust during a game. Just watch tape of the game they played in near hurricane conditions a few weeks ago at North Carolina State (a game that should have never been played) and explain why Kelly was compelled to stick to a shotgun formation, empty backfield and continue to throw the ball. Then he threw the center under the bus after the game for some...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
The Good. 1. Cook showed how much the offense can benefit when you have a TE that is a receiving threat. They really haven't had that since Finley. 2. Rodgers missed a few, but it was clear that Cousins was also having problems with balls thrown in the flat because of the wind. A couple of those moved several feet when thrown in that direction. Other than that, Rodgers played pretty well. The OL can't run block and can't really protect, so Rodgers is what's keeping them somewhat respectable.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
After 10 years with Rodgers and 1 Super Bowl, do we still think the draft and develop philosophy (with almost no free agency) is the best long term philosophy?
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Yes but with more flexibility in FA. The build through the draft strategy is sound when you stop holding onto "development" projects like Bradford and Janis. But when those picks bottom out, yes, the team needs to find some flexibility with strategic FA pickups. But the base approach should absolutely to build through the draft. Especially in the salary cap era.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Exactly. Saying the philosophy failed because of the results is like saying democracy doesn't work because you don't like the outcome of an election. (For analogy purposes only - please no politics.) As others have mentioned, TT coming up essentially empty on the last three drafts and making some questionable personnel moves along the way brought this on. Keeping Pep, letting Hayward walk, making the league's 12th best kicker it's 3rd highest paid and the timing of the Sitton move were all...
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Never said he was biggest problem, just said he has been a disappointment. We really expected a pro bowl type year from him, but no one looking at it realistically can say he has played at that level. No doubt our problems at CB have contributed to Ha Ha's performance, but he just has not made plays along with the rest of the defense.
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Re: The Ugly, The Bad ...and the Good?
Only if you hit about 3 home runs in a row. They got a HOF QB with the 23rd pick, a guy who played at a HOF level for several years with the 26th pick (CM3), and a HOF DB who came to Green Bay on a discount because everyone else thought he was washed up (Woodson). That's 3 HOF-level players at 3 of the 4 most important positions (QB, edge rusher, CB) without having a top 5 pick. That coupled with having 2 of your other top 3 CBs being UDFA that played like Pro Bowlers on small contracts...
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Re: Viking Clap vs Our Man Dak game thread
One made for a nice Super Bowl win. The other is on the docket.
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Re: Viking Clap vs Our Man Dak game thread
While Treadwell continues to get nothing accomplished Jason Spriggs is learning how to play guard. Might have been a good selection for Minny Rick has free wheeled his way to 9 first round picks over the last 5 years. His team sucks. He has no first rounder next year. I hope Rick gets a nice extension. Its also important to note the Vikings have never won a Super Bowl.
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Re: Rodger wants Thursday Night Playoffs
I didn't watch the game last night because honestly I have kind of sworn off TNF since the games are usually a bad matchup or the quality of the game is bad. I think we are eventually headed to a 20 and 18 game schedule but they are going have to shorten the preseason to do that. If they don't the NFL could be playing until after spring training starts and have the Super Bowl on Easter. I am kidding of course but if you are serious about player safety lets dial back the TNF games which most...
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Re: 2016 (Team 96) WK14 Seahags @ GB GDT
I love how the Marshfield Clinic didn't pay for the rights to use "Super Bowl" or team names.
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Re: Are you "feeling it" NOW? +/- Seahawks WIN!
Losing Earl Thomas is the equivalent of losing Nick Collins. It took the Packer defense years to recover from losing Collins (I would argue that if he would have stayed healthy, they probably win at least another Super Bowl). As someone said, Chancellor is a great safety in run support (one of the best I've ever seen), but the reason he lasted until the 5th round of the draft is that he runs a 4.69 40. Here were his weaknesses according to NFL.com when he was drafted: Earl Thomas covers up...
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Re: Are you "feeling it" NOW? +/- Seahawks WIN!
Nice win, grats! I got to watch it, a thorough asswhippin. Too bad we couldn't capitalize on it, with our terrible p/k/long snapper trio. Oh well, the playoff talk is over for us, now maybe we can ruin somone else's season. Now I want to see a Raiders or Chiefs vs. Pack Super Bowl. Good luck!
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Re: So the Packers are in the basement with likes of the Saints, Carolina and Arizona,
I never wish the season is over. It usually sucks when it ends. Unless they win the Super Bowl.
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Re: So the Packers are in the basement with likes of the Saints, Carolina and Arizona,
I don't usually, but you can't really say you enjoy watching these Packers can you? So painful. But I'll admit FOOTBALL itself is fun when other teams are in the playoffs even if mine don't make it. Although dimple boy is on a mission to win it all this year so the same team will win it all AGAIN. Ugh.....
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Re: So the Packers are in the basement with likes of the Saints, Carolina and Arizona,
I watch the Packers just like I did in the 70's and 80's. You hope they play well and just watch the game. If they lose, there is always next week, until the season ends.
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Re: Texan's Week
Note to self. If you ever decide to open a cable provider company. Middle of Montana is a great target market. I picture thousands of residents wandering the middle of Montana in Viking Super Bowl Champion hoodies thinking they play in an outdoor stadium that was paid off 30 years ago. Tragic.
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Re: Nit laden Loins vs. Bucky - Big Ten Championship GDT
On the plus side, at least they won't lose their 4th Rose Bowl this decade.
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Re: Nit laden Loins vs. Bucky - Big Ten Championship GDT
The loser of this game is projected to go the Cotton Bowl to play Western Michigan. Talk about a bowl game with no upside. Win and you get no credit for beating a MAC team. Lose and you're a laughing stock.