Tagged With "Penn State"
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So if Wisconsin wins the next 2 weeks and Penn State wins the next 2 weeks and Ohio State beats Meeechigan Badgers and Penn State play for the Big Ten Championship. How sweet would that be? Can a 2 loss Badger team leap a 1 loss Ohio State for the playoffs?
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No, because the committee thinks An Ohio State University brings more eyeballs to TV screens.
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But being a conference champ is supposed to mean more. And Ohio State can not be that if they beat Michigan and Penn State wins out.
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See, Badgers still get NO respect. A 2 loss Penn State makes the playoff if they win the BIG 10 but a 2 loss Badger team is replaced by Ohio State if Bucky wins the Big Ten. Talk about bullschit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.landof10.com/big-t...wisconsin-penn-state
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Exactly, Cavetoad! Penn State, Michigan, or O$U. It doesn't matter to me. The Badgers have no say who will win the East now. Any of those 3 teams will be tough. Let's get there first.
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Fans talk. Players play. Everything is automatically contingent on them winning out. But I'm of the mind that the Badgers will not be final 4 even if they win the B1G Championship if they don't get a revenge win. It has to be one of the two- Michigan or OSU. If its Penn State, there is going to be a perception that OSU or Michigan is still better.
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First things first. Let's win the next 2. I can't see them losing to Purdue, but Minnesota is going to be tough. If Bucky wins 2 the fact that the Michigan QB is out complicates this even more. That makes it more likely that UM will lose to OSU and put Penn State in the Big 10 title game. Best case scenario is that OSU beats UM and then MSU shocks Penn State (which is not impossible, but unlikely). Then Bucky gets OSU and a "revenge" win and both Penn State and MSU will have more or as many...
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The more I think about it and hear pundit's blathering, the more I think this is the case. Item 1: Beat Purdue this weekend. As noted, it's really out of our control. Obviously nobody was impressed by the huge win over IL. We need to keep getting huge wins and dominating defensive play even with all the injuries. Now with Meeechigan loosing their QB, it's going to make this harder for us as far as the polls go. Fact is, we have to win the B1G. No way about it and we can't control the rest.
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Really unfortunate that UW lost that game to Ohio State. They would be controlling their own destiny right now.
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Yeah Baby! I just finished watching the game (TiVO). Took the kids up to Mount Laguna and Julian today and with the rain and traffic, it took forever to get back home. Let's beat Penn State first and then let the chips fall where they may. Beating PSU means at least the Rose Bowl. I would love to be in the top 4 for the playoffs. Our Defense and coaching is definitely Championship caliber. But, I just don't know if the committee believes our offense is a top 4 playoff offense. Let's win the...
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I think Ohio State is in no matter what. I hate that team but 4 wins against top 10 teams is nothing to sneeze at. Where it could get interesting if it's Penn State that wins the BT championship game and Clemson and Washington don't lose but Penn State beat Ohio State so I think they are also in and in that scenario Washington is probably out. The Wisconsin resume doesn't look as strong now as LSU and Michigan State and Nebraska aren't as good as their rankings were when they played them and...
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If Penn State wins the Big 10 the Big 10 champ will not be in it....if Wisc wins they most likely will not be it in. If Washington wins they will be in it, if Colorado wins they will not be in it. IMO the only path for Wisc is Colorado winning. And their reward? Alabama.
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Michigan really had their way with the UW OL and unlike Ohio State the Badgers couldn't run the ball as well. I actually think UW would have a better chance of beating the Bucks than UM. Either scenario wouldn't be very likely. Penn State is probably the best draw of the three. However, UW playing and beating a Michigan or Ohio State in the BT championship game would have made UW a lock for the final four. Now they need help IMO as Ohio State is in for sure I think?
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No they haven't... and their "signature win" is over a Washington State team that has a loss to Eastern Washington on their resume. The only other ranked team they played is USC, and lost. But if they finish with one loss, they'll be more appealing than any of the "Wild Card" 2 loss teams.
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Pretty sure Washington beat Stanford and they are ranked 17 this week. Utah probably should be ranked and that's a quality win. Colorado is a top 10 team and if they beat them I think it's going to be hard for the committee to keep them out instead of a 2 loss UW team. The Iowa win is looking better now (they are ranked this week) but LSU and Nebraska wins don't look nearly as good. The Michigan State win now is meaningless. Beating Penn State would be their best win of the year and I think...
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Just knew the Ohio State OT loss may factor into this. Ugh. Hate O$U and that drama queen Urb Whatever happens I am proud of this team
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I think Ohio State is a lock, leaving two spots. Is it down to Clemson, Washington, and Wisconsin? What about Michigan? I think their two losses are too late in the season to give them any chance.
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I do not think so. Washington plays in a down conference and has no signature wins. The Badgers beat LSU, who was the only team to compete with 'Bama. And while the MSU win is no longer a factor, beating Nebraska and Iowa on the road, and taking OSU to overtime and Michigan to the brink is better than anything Washington has done. To then complete it with a win over Penn State to be Conference champion in the toughest conference in football this year clinches it. There will be 2 B1G teams in...
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The Badgers have to beat Penn State no matter what. I also think Washington has to beat Colorado for them to be safe. Same thing with Clemson but their path is easier than either Wisconsin or Washington. Washington beating a top 10 Colorado team cancels out UW beating a top 10 Penn State team. That's where it could get interesting in the comparisons. Washington has one loss to a top 15 USC team. The Badgers have two losses to top 10 teams. The Badgers beat LSU and Iowa and Nebraska - all...
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This makes no sense. If Washington beats Colorado they have only 1 loss. How does this make Badgers safe except safely in the Rose Bowl?
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I also have to think Michigan is still in the discussion regardless of the BT championship game especially if a Clemson or Washington loses again. UM might have 2 losses, but they own head to head comparisons by beating UW and throttling Penn State. That's 2 top 10 wins not including the Colorado win that looks pretty good right now.
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Michigan does have a pretty strong case. They have a better case than Washington does. You gotta play good teams, and teams that don't should be punished for it. The top of the B1G has done that. OSU played Oklahoma, Michigan played Colorado, Wisconsin played LSU... the only team that didn't schedule a quality non-conference opponent is Penn State. Their rise to the B1G championship game is really quite flukey. Really that's what the conversation should be about- not about if Wisconsin/Penn...
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As much as I'd like Bucky to get to the playoff, I think it's unlikely they get in. I think they'll either take Ohio State or the UW/Penn State winner, but not both. I think it's Alabama, Clemson, Washington, Big10 team. If they are really serious about the conference championship games, then Ohio State should be out, but I think they'll take OSU over Wisconsin or Penn State. Even if Clemson or Washington lose, I think they'll be a lot of momentum for Oklahoma to go if they beat Oklahoma...
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Computer Strength of schedule rankings as of today. OSU 4 Alabama 10 Michigan 11 Clemson 21 Wisconsin 25 Penn State 28 Colorado 42 Oklahoma 54 Washington 69 Those bottom three just don't deserve equal rating when in discussion with the top six. Washington's strength of schedule ranks 69 out of 128 in the country. C'mon man!
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I heard what might be the most logical argument so far on the Big Ten contenders, but it's not necessarily good for Wisconsin. If you were to rank the top 4 teams in the Big Ten (forget West v East) right now UW is 3rd. Even with a win v Penn State I'm not sure they leapfrog Michigan. Why? They've already beaten 3 top 10 teams including both UW and Penn State. The other factor is Michigan is just a better team and more equipped to handle an Alabama or Clemson or even Ohio State in the...
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But Michigan beat Wisconsin head to head. That means something more if you are comparing two teams with the same W/L record. Wisconsin has had a great year and hope they beat Penn State to be in the playoff discussion. If they don't make it in that would be a bummer but would not be a surprise either. The two close losses to Ohio State and Michigan are still losses. Win one of those two and they in for sure.
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What would be awesome is if Clemson and Washington both lost. Talk about chaos. You could then make a case that both Michigan and Wisconsin are in - along with Ohio State.
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I hope they can beat Penn State and I think they can but I sure get the feeling here that it is going to be easy, almost an afterthought.
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I watched some show on ESPN at lunch today and they were talking about if the B1G champion should be left out, and all they talked about was that Penn State should have a chance but they won't. Never even MENTIONED the Badgers. That show has apparently already given the B1G title to PSU.
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I noticed the same thing the other night and on ESPN radio the last day or so. PSU is talked about (they should be they deserve it) but not much about UW usually and if they do they mention their losses or they are boring etc. right on queue they were talking about how the committee may want to have the best matchups in the playoffs and who do they show? yep UW.
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Put Notre Dame and Iowa State in the Big Ten and the hell with the rest of Big 12.
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As much as I hate ND I would really like to see them in the Big Ten. They would never give up their NBC Notre Dame contract though and have to share any money. Iowa State would make some sense and you could almost make a case for Kansas St coming to the Big Ten as well.
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A 12 team tournament would be the way to go to make the conference championships mean something, but the problem is there are 5 Power conferences instead of 4. You could award the top 4 rated POwer Conference champions an automatic bye, and then have the 5th go into an 8 team First Round playoff to see which four teams play the conference champs. I agree that this year will expose the fact that the conference championship is not that important. It's very likely that Penn State/Bucky winner...
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Washington is up 31-7 in the 3rd quarter. There in. 1. Alabama (win or lose the SEC championship) 2. Ohio State 3. Washington Clemson if they beat Virginia Tech
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Chris Peterson, James Franklin and Paul Chryst are pleading with the committee to rank them no higher than fifth. Relax, I know they aren't. Wisc/Penn State Vs Wash in the Rose Bowl would be a good game. Badgers would of course be my preference. I hope Clemson has a rough time tonite, dropping them to 4. Put Mich at 3 vs 2 OSU. Bama, OSU, Mich and Clemson are IMO the best 4 teams.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg
Maybe it's time to consider trading Matthews. He seems to be made of the same type of glass that AR breaks on that State Farm commercial with him. On the occasions when his is healthy, is he really exponentially better than a mid-tier OLB? And couldn't we add a couple of solid defensive vets for his $15M?
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board
Brian Kelly would also have to be fired. In 2015, Brian Kelly's ND went 10-3 and ended up #11 in the final poll. They lost by 2 points at Clemson (#2 in final poll), by 2 points at Stanford (#3), and to Ohio State in the bowl game (#4). Yes. Notre Dame is down this year, but I can't imagine them firing him less than a year removed from an outstanding season.
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Brian Kelly is much like MM....very stubborn, overly loyal to terrible assistant coaches, can't commit to the run game, and is not able to adjust during a game. Just watch tape of the game they played in near hurricane conditions a few weeks ago at North Carolina State (a game that should have never been played) and explain why Kelly was compelled to stick to a shotgun formation, empty backfield and continue to throw the ball. Then he threw the center under the bus after the game for some...
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
I think what fans want is accountability. Thompson's communication style + the unique structure of power in GB makes accountability a greater challenge here than elsewhere. Obviously that's a non-issue when things are going well. Likewise, it's irrelevant what other GMs do b/c every other GM has an owner who often addresses the concerns of disappointing seasons though words, actions, or both. In the 90's you had two strong people in Harlan and Wolf, who would join Holmgren, who would address...
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
I assume the first pick will be a tackle (converted TE) from Alcorn University State College, regardless of where Ted is picking.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
I assume the first pick will be someone from the PAC12.
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
I'd be OK with Christian McCaffrey in Round 2 or as a mid to late Round 1 (if he lasts that long).
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Re: I am starting to get excited about our top 10 draft pick next spring
Need a CB as I'm guessing Shields retires and the current state of our backfield says we're in trouble there. Need pass rush help, and a receiver who can stretch the field (again) since Davis doesn't appear to be the answer and if Janis is on next year's roster... I think we can find an RB in later rounds to be serviceable. Restructure Jordy and CM3 to reflect current value. Resign Lang, Cook, Tretter.
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Re: 2016 (Team 96) WK14 Seahags @ GB GDT
Chili you nailed my assessment of Wilson. I can do without some of his commentary but there is no question he is clutch. Just when you think they are dead and buried he makes some magical throws and plays. Think that heave against Michigan State in the BT championship game years ago. Down and out and his play basically wins it. Not so much yesterday. He was awful. Part of that is due to the Seattle OL (mediocre) but he was off. I also think Rollins and Randall made a difference. That's the...
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Re: 2016 (Team 96) WK14 Seahags @ GB GDT
In fairness, I think Chili was actually mocking my previous post much earlier in the thread praising the greatness of Wilson. It deserved to be somewhat mocked after yesterday.
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
Which NFL GMs talk to the media during the season? Jones and Belicheck don't count. SFO sucks, what has Baalke said about the state of their team? I know I've read more than a few comments from Kelly.
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Re: The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson
I saw yesterday that Murphy stepped up and started addressing the team in season, against his normal activity. It's a leadership and a PR move. He isn't giving away "state secrets" he is manning up and addressing concerns in the absence of a GM doing it.
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Re: Coverage Schemes
I went back & looked at all of the Skins big pass plays. ALL of them were in the middle of the field with no safety in view. I would think that with the state of our CB situation, the main focus would be to not give up big plays, which is typically accomplished by keeping your safeties deep, and making offenses be patient and score TDs in the red zone.