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Originally Posted by heyward:

       

Kinda think the Seahawks know what they're doing.


       


Kinda think they had everything work out very well for them the last 2 seasons.

That generally doesn't happen in the NFL year after year
How is Wilson going to even get Graham the ball? That offense was worse off when Unger was out of the lineup and they improved when he was healthy. They also lost their starting LG and the rest of that line was up and down all season. Despite their plug and play scheme with OL, you still need smart veteran players to make the whole thing function properly. Breaking in a new C and LG at the same time is hard no matter what scheme. They're lucky Wilson can run.

Besides that they still don't have another legit receiver to take pressure off Graham. Teams can just double Graham and limit his opportunities. He's also a terrible blocker so I really don't understand this move.

Man, what a crazy day for teams/players!

Plenty of trades with (supposed) big names, and even more FA moves, but it seems to be much ado about nothing in the end. 

I am happy for AJ. I hope this move is beneficial for all concerned.

Ditto Newhouse going to NYG. It's as crazy as some of the deals that happened today, if not more so, to think that any  team would want him, but more power to him. He gets to eat for another year or so. 

Another early, unforced retirement. Just turned 27.

@JasonLaCanfora: Former Steelers pass rusher Jason Worilds is retiring from the game per a release by his agents. Several teams wanted him in free agency....

 

@JasonLaCanfora: Worilds played last season on the franchise tag for Pittsburgh and the Titans among others were very interested in him this year...

 

@JasonLaCanfora: Worilds opting to pursue his faith and explore other options. Comes on the heels of Patrick Willis and Jake Locker retiring young this week.

 

@JasonLaCanfora: Worilds had undergone a spiritual awakening and his calling is now in that domain. Wish him all the best in his new pursuits

 

@RapSheet: Jason Worilds is walking away from about $7M or $8M per year. At least $15M guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by Boris:
Originally Posted by heyward:

       

Kinda think the Seahawks know what they're doing.


       


Kinda think they had everything work out very well for them the last 2 seasons.

That generally doesn't happen in the NFL year after year

You are so right Boris.  The Seahags have had everything work out just right for them the last couple of years.  No NFL team can escape the injury bug every year, coaches change, salary cap issues will hit eventually, and players will move on. 

Steady and consistent - that's the Packers and Patriots.   No wonder they have won more games the last 10 years than any other teams

Teams that want to make all sorts of changes are rarely successful. The Eagles eventual implosion will be fun to watch.   We may see it with Seattle sooner than later.
The 49ers hadn't been bit by the injury bug until this season and it hit hard. It can strike at any time, especially with a guy like Jimmy Grabam who has a recent injury history and takes a lot of hard shots.
Originally Posted by CAPackfan:

 

Dare to dream, people

Where in the hell do these "reporters" get their stories.  Like Thompson is going to pay that kind of coin.  I also liked the report I saw where the Packers were looking at Percy Harvin and Andre Johnson.  I think I am going to be a reporter and just make crap up.  I can't do no worse.

My prediction: both Niners and Seahawks fail to make playoffs this year, Cards win division in a cakewalk, and Pack will beat down the Niners and Hawks in their regular season game. The Packers-Cards at Arizona (which I hope to get tickets for) will be an epic battle.

Originally Posted by cuqui:

       

Another early, unforced retirement. Just turned 27.

@JasonLaCanfora: Former Steelers pass rusher Jason Worilds is retiring from the game per a release by his agents. Several teams wanted him in free agency....

 

@JasonLaCanfora: Worilds played last season on the franchise tag for Pittsburgh and the Titans among others were very interested in him this year...

 

@JasonLaCanfora: Worilds opting to pursue his faith and explore other options. Comes on the heels of Patrick Willis and Jake Locker retiring young this week.

 

@JasonLaCanfora: Worilds had undergone a spiritual awakening and his calling is now in that domain. Wish him all the best in his new pursuits

 

@RapSheet: Jason Worilds is walking away from about $7M or $8M per year. At least $15M guaranteed.


       


Tells you how tough the NFL is. In no other big money sport do people retire at their peak.
I'm sure GB has interest in almost every free agent at a certain price. I doubt GB's price would match what Johnson or Revis are looking for. Revis would be a killer fit though, he could play that role that Woodson had years ago. I'd love to see him in GB, but not at the price it's been reported he's looking for.

speaking of QBs moving on from their current team, How about this possible doozy. 

 

Brees going to Tampa for draft picks. Not saying which one but that would be nuts. New Orleans and San Fran may be the two worse teams in the league next year. 

 

http://neworleans.suntimes.com...s-trade-brees-jameis

Well done article on Chip Kelly's schizophrenic debut as grocery shopper:

Coaching a successful major college program does not qualify you to be an NFL personnel executive.

In fact, there are few high-profile football jobs that leave a person less qualified to be an NFL personnel executive than coaching a successful college program.

General managers and other top NFL decision-makers spend years working their way up through personnel, scouting or cap-management departments. The head coaches who gain personnel control usually climb through the coordinator ranks—where they deal regularly with general managers and administrators and learn the fundamentals of roster assembly—and almost always keep an experienced personnel director around as a combination logistical coordinator/consigliore.

The person with final say on major roster moves in most NFL franchises has spent years at the professional level learning the ballet among players, agents, competitors and the holders of 32 separate sets of salary-cap purse strings. There are messy, counterintuitive elements of that dance: complex webs of loyalties and agendas; negotiations and machinations that combine chess, poker, Survivor and the roll of a roulette wheel.

A major college coach, meanwhile, knows nothing of salary caps, or salaries. Trades do not exist. Agents are kicked off campus, theoretically. The only competition for talent involves showing 17-year-olds a good time on Fraternity Row and promising them a shot at a starting job as freshmen.

Major college coaches think and operate in terms of two- to four-year windows for retaining players. Their authority is emperor-like. The only times they match wits with other adults who don't share their rah-rah agenda is on the field itself, or perhaps when NCAA investigators knock.

This brings us to Chip Kelly, who was a brilliant college coach until 2012, an NFL strategic revolutionary in 2013 and a backroom power-brokering ninja when the calendar flipped from 2014 to 2015. He is now the Eagles' top personnel man, as well as the head coach.

Kelly has some lieutenants, like Player Personnel Vice President Ed Marynowitz (a recently promoted wunderkind) and Senior Advisor Tom Donahoe. But after the coup that stripped Howie Roseman of most of his authority, the Eagles are now written, produced and directed by Kelly.

Having just traded Nick Foles for Sam Bradford, traded LeSean McCoy for Kiko Alonso, essentially swapped out Cary Williams for Byron Maxwell at cornerback, sent Jeremy Maclin packing, played Wicked Tuna with Frank Gore and thrown his hat into every trade and free-agent rumor on earth that did not involve Kevin Durant, Kelly has established himself as a wheeler-dealer who is as impatient about thinking through his moves as he is about huddling between plays.

Kelly is flailing. He's overmatched. Like an inexperienced swimmer in a riptide, he is thrashing about madly, sometimes getting nowhere, often making things worse...

http://bleacherreport.com/arti...g-in-the-gm-deep-end

Sam Bradford has to be part of a far greater plan for Chip. Maybe Chip feels Sam has higher trade value than Nick Foles??? That's all I can think of. Sam is not an up tempo QB. He's not mobile. The ONLY thing Sam does fast is get hurt. 

 

But the whole "trade value" thing is hard to justify when it came out Chip gave up this years 4th and next years 2nd for a QB that has zero chance of running Chips system. The trade makes absolutely no sense. Maybe it's as simple as Chip wanted to clean house of everyone that wasn't his choice to prove to everyone he's the smartest guy in the room. 

 

The last time a child tried showing the adults he thought he knew more than they did Josh McDaniels left Denver a smoldering dung fire. Unfortunately you don't always find a Peyton Manning to come in and cover that stink up in short order though. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by cuqui:

Well done article on Chip Kelly's schizophrenic debut as grocery shopper:

Opinions vary...Here's an article from Andrew Brandt talking about Chip Kelly

I'd lean towards Brandt over the always incendiary belcher report

What was your reaction to the blockbuster trade of LeSean McCoy going to the Bills for Kiko Alonso?

"My first reaction is that it appears more like a general-manager driven trade than a coach/general manager-driven trade. Coaches are usually short-term emotional actors rather than long-term planners, yet Kelly traded the better short-term option away in favor of the ascending player who should have better value in the long run. Kelly took a very “non-coach” approach, contrasted with his gusto-filled trade partner Rex Ryan."

Originally Posted by Tschmack:
Steady and consistent - that's the Packers and Patriots. 

Sorry. Pats on another level due to a little 'ol thing called Super Bowl Championships and appearances. Also hilarious to see people ripping on the Hags. Granted, a GB gift last year but two Bowl appearances in a row isn't anything to sneeze at. They are no fluke.

Originally Posted by Floridarob:

speaking of QBs moving on from their current team, How about this possible doozy. 

 

Brees going to Tampa for draft picks. Not saying which one but that would be nuts. New Orleans and San Fran may be the two worse teams in the league next year. 

 

http://neworleans.suntimes.com...s-trade-brees-jameis

I can't see Brees wanting any part of Tampa Bay. He'd be a perfect fit for someone like the Browns. For as much of a dumpster fire the Browns have been on offense, they have a good defense and there are a lot worse things than having Joe Thomas protect your blind side. Brees' college background at Purdue would make him at least consider living in Big 10 country.

Saints owner Benson is in the middle of competency hearings to see if he is fit to run an NFL team. IF they apply the same criteria to all NFL owners, not sure how many would pass

Originally Posted by chickenboy:
Originally Posted by Tschmack:
Steady and consistent - that's the Packers and Patriots. 

Sorry. Pats on another level due to a little 'ol thing called Super Bowl Championships and appearances. Also hilarious to see people ripping on the Hags. Granted, a GB gift last year but two Bowl appearances in a row isn't anything to sneeze at. They are no fluke.

Pats on another level?!?!?!? You are completely glossing over the complete brown bag of dog **** the AFC has been for the past decade. New England let a heavily flawed team like Baltimore go up 14 TWICE on them at home in the playoffs and you want to preach to me about their greatness and being on another level? If you want proof the AFC sucks you don't have to look any further than New England losing Revis and Baltimore losing Ngata and Torrey Smith and they are STILL going to be favorites to meet in the AFC Championship next year. You could probably include Indy in that list of favorites even though they are fresh off an ass whipping in last years AFC Championship...

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Originally Posted by Herschel:

The Browns wouldn't give the Saints a top rookie QB to start over with. If they could move Brees to Tampa (which Tampa would be silly to takee) New Orleans would be in full rebuild mode.

Maybe Benson is incompetent enough to take Manziel off their hands.

Originally Posted by Boris:
Originally Posted by heyward:

       

Kinda think the Seahawks know what they're doing.


       


Kinda think they had everything work out very well for them the last 2 seasons.

That generally doesn't happen in the NFL year after year

They've been paying a top 10 NFL QB a mid-round rookie salary. The 15-20 million Wilson gets going forward means 2-3 less players at the level of Bulaga and Sitton. That's a big difference.

Originally Posted by chickenboy:

That sure was an entertaining Super Bowl between a soon-to-be-imploding, flash-in-the-pan and gifted an appearance team beaten by a team only there because of a weak conference.

 

 

So was the Bucs/Raiders Superbowl.  Let's see if Seattle doesn't go in the toilet with continuing saga of sniveling coming from dbag players.  There is proof in have sustained success and the Pats deserve credit.  Seattle needs to maintain.

 

No amount of Packer success will ever drag you out of the Viking shame closet.  

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