Cousins to Vikes for $27 mill a year
Report: Kirk Cousins to sign with the Vikings at $27-plus million annually
Not bad. Just a tad over estimated market value of the reported 25.8
I'd expect Elway to come in with an offer probably beating that one & the Jets have a TON of cap room.
We'll see.....
The opportunity to play with 2 top shelf flankerbacks in Diggsy and Thielensy, plus playing in front of the great battalion of Skoldiers in the stands, the new top echelon TCO Performance Center training facility, the best medical staff, greatest stadium in the league, great fishing and hunting, modern infrastructure, fertile farm lands (if he chooses to farm),etc etc will tip the scales in Minnesota's favor.
Ever tried to grow corn in Denver? Not happening.
Brown Paper Sack posted:Not bad. Just a tad over estimated market value of the reported 25.8
Definitely less than I expected. In today’s market it is an okay contract.
Nice list. Somehow you left off winning it all.
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Brainwashed Boris posted:I'd expect Elway to come in with an offer probably beating that one & the Jets have a TON of cap room.
We'll see.....
I seem to remember you scoffing at the thought of Cousins taking less to play in Minnesota.....
Am I remembering things correctly?
Mcginns sources said packers are to make a strong run at Tremaine Edwards.
McGinn certainly has NFL sources, but lately it's been hard to tell if he has genuine intel or is simply spinning hot takes to gin up subscriptions for his website.
I agree with goaline and troll slapping!!
The trade and the logic behind it can be discussed until doomsday but the results will determine the wisdom of it. Before the trade I thought long and hard about a young QB with some potential to compete with Hundley and assumed that the Browns would pooopcan Kizer because a new savior would be coming in April. I just did not suspect Randall would be traded to get him.
It is obvious Randall is not an outside corner and that his potential is the slot but only in certain defensive sets. Admit it, there was nothing more maddening than having Randall get beat in man coverage and be 5 yards behind the guy because he gambled and a double move got him. I do agree, in a system where he played only zone he was much better because ,his eye discipline is poor and unless he has his head in the right direction he is easily turned. This is now Cleveland's problem but Greg Williams will use him to his strength that is for sure.
I also think he is a little fragile, he has missed several games due to injury and his well documented temper issues- everybody has talked about this already but I have not seen anyone mention who they think was so high on Randall in his draft year. I am beginning to think more and more that Wolfe Jr was the champion of DR in the draft process. It doesn't matter but just like when Schneider left GB he gathered up the failed O linemen he liked and brought them to Seattle, I think Wolfe like Randall and brought him to Cleveland- don't be surprised that if Rollins get cut he also makes the sojourn to Brown land!
I am undecided on Kizer because of the turn over issue. HIs poor 1st year doesn't concern me- AR was bad his 1st season and we see how that turned out. AR was however awesome in college and Kizer was decidedly not. Hard work and his ability to learn the NFL fundamental's will be the key . I think player's with flaws in their game who sit for a while often fix these flaws but if you do not possess what I call video vision (the ability to clearly see the whole field in your progression of reads) you are doomed. Kizer has the prerequisite arm strength and one thing M3 can teach is fundamentals but we shall see if that makes Kizer an NFL QB.. If it does he will be a great trade chip or maybe Rodgers decides to retire and drive race cars ( or count the money GB has paid him) and we got our next QB for a disgruntled DB !!
"Yes the entire roster is just $#!T. "
Pretty much. Without Rodgers we're a 3 or 4 win team. Keizer ain't gonna provide anything substantially better than Hundley.
Proof is in the pudding. You are what your record is... so on
Yeah, that is exactly why we must draft BPA. We are lacking talent at every position. This is a bad team.
Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:I'd expect Elway to come in with an offer probably beating that one & the Jets have a TON of cap room.
We'll see.....
I seem to remember you scoffing at the thought of Cousins taking less to play in Minnesota.....
Am I remembering things correctly?
Is it official?
I guess every other suitor for Cousins might as well just roll over. The mighty Vikings have staked their claim & Cousins is Otto Graham.
I hope this is true because I can't wait to see Cousins throwing 3 INTs vs. Green Bay
Randall can be a decent corner in this league but the operative word is “can”
I’m not convinced he can stay healthy long term as he’s not the biggest or strongest guy. I’m also not convinced he’s disciplined or motivated or mature enough to be a consistent player that can be counted on to lock down a spot.
He was the best CB on a team that was garbage at that position. On some teams he’s probably a backup. We can do better than Damarious Randall folks.
My guess is Gute makes a run at one of the top corners in FA and drafts one high in the draft.
Randall is the only high draft choice in the past 5 years that was totally off my radar. Mainly because he had played safety his last 2 years in college & that is where most had projected him to play in the NFL. As far as attitude, just as when hiring for any organization, you have to trust the former employer to be honest and tell you if the prospect can be problematic in any way. Very few players just "all of a sudden" develop a bad attitude, typically the signs are there in their past.
Fandame posted:Let’s see what Hawkins, et al, do with Pettine vs Dom. Maybe a change in scheme will help. I’m willing to wait andsee, but the lack of CBs is a bit disconcerting right now.
That is why I don't get the love affair for Joe Whitt, he hasn't developed any CB's,
Brainwashed Boris posted:Is it official?I guess every other suitor for Cousins might as well just roll over. The mighty Vikings have staked their claim & Cousins is Otto Graham.
I hope this is true because I can't wait to see Cousins throwing 3 INTs vs. Green Bay
I never said it was official. I said if he signs with Minny for $27M, he will have forgone more money to do it. Something you claimed was ludicrous from the get go.
”Minnesota is #1 with a bullet if it’s close.”
Now you hope it happens because he’s so bad......
Brown Paper Sack posted:It'll all depend on what they draft with that 4th rounder. Do they get a TJ Lang/Mike Daniels/Taliban Bahktiari, or do they get Jake Ryan/Carl Bradford/Jonathon Franklin?
What the hell is wrong with Jake Ryan?
Vikings doing the right things. No idea what Gerk is doing. Wait and see.
Jody posted:Fandame posted:Let’s see what Hawkins, et al, do with Pettine vs Dom. Maybe a change in scheme will help. I’m willing to wait andsee, but the lack of CBs is a bit disconcerting right now.
That is why I don't get the love affair for Joe Whitt, he hasn't developed any CB's,
Tramon Williams. Sam Shields. Two UDFA's
Yeah, nobody.
Jody posted:Brown Paper Sack posted:It'll all depend on what they draft with that 4th rounder. Do they get a TJ Lang/Mike Daniels/Taliban Bahktiari, or do they get Jake Ryan/Carl Bradford/Jonathon Franklin?
What the hell is wrong with Jake Ryan?
Really white.
Only thing we've seen reported is the Vikings making an offer for Cousins @ $27 million. No other team reported with an offer.
Right now it seems the highest offer is from the Vikings. Maybe the other teams don't think he's worth that much.
Isn’t there a Vikings board you knuckledraggers can frequent instead? Beyond the utterly stupid posting and annoying banter I’m not quite sure you bring a whole lot to the table.
And no, I don’t give a **** if they sign Cousins nor do I care how much money they pay him. That team is jinxed and it ain’t going to change with or without Cousins.
Then you should quit responding. Usually when I want nothing to do with a conversation, I just quit responding. Us knuckledraggers are smart like that.
heyward posted:They become a lot less malcontentable when they play for the Packers.
Martellus Bennett says hello. 
Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:Then you should quit responding. Usually when I want nothing to do with a conversation, I just quit responding. Us knuckledraggers are smart like that.
You sure about that sweetheart?
Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:heyward posted:Since when is Kizer a "real back-up QB?"
Since he became a packer.
All of the sudden, 11 TDs, 22 INTS, 6 lost fumbles, and a QBR of 60.5 is the stuff legends are born of.
Kind of reminds me of when Green Bay traded for a bench sitter from Atlanta who also hade a terrible td to int ratio.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Only thing we've seen reported is the Vikings making an offer for Cousins @ $27 million. No other team reported with an offer.
Right now it seems the highest offer is from the Vikings. Maybe the other teams don't think he's worth that much.
That report is likely coming from Cousin's agent. Cousin's prolly would like MIN best of teams needing a vet starter, and the agent is trying to drive up interest.
Nothing official until the new league year.
Jody posted:Fandame posted:Let’s see what Hawkins, et al, do with Pettine vs Dom. Maybe a change in scheme will help. I’m willing to wait andsee, but the lack of CBs is a bit disconcerting right now.
That is why I don't get the love affair for Joe Whitt, he hasn't developed any CB's,
Sam Shields, Tramon Williams and Casey Heyward would disagree.
Herschel posted:Jody posted:Fandame posted:Let’s see what Hawkins, et al, do with Pettine vs Dom. Maybe a change in scheme will help. I’m willing to wait andsee, but the lack of CBs is a bit disconcerting right now.
That is why I don't get the love affair for Joe Whitt, he hasn't developed any CB's,
Sam Shields, Tramon Williams and Casey Heyward would disagree.
Lol!
Pretty sure Hayward improved AFTER he left Green Bay.
Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:I'd expect Elway to come in with an offer probably beating that one & the Jets have a TON of cap room.
We'll see.....
I seem to remember you scoffing at the thought of Cousins taking less to play in Minnesota.....
Am I remembering things correctly?
I seem to remember you saying you didn't want Cousins anywhere near your team.
Then you backpedalled and said you should be awarded the freedom to change your position. You just needed to warm up to the idea.
Am I remembering a Viking fans misremembering things correctly?
Brown Paper Sack posted:Herschel posted:Jody posted:Fandame posted:Let’s see what Hawkins, et al, do with Pettine vs Dom. Maybe a change in scheme will help. I’m willing to wait andsee, but the lack of CBs is a bit disconcerting right now.
That is why I don't get the love affair for Joe Whitt, he hasn't developed any CB's,
Sam Shields, Tramon Williams and Casey Heyward would disagree.
Lol!
Pretty sure Hayward improved AFTER he left Green Bay.
Charles Woodson vouched for Whitt. Said he could coach. That's all there is to say about that.
Sack. You don't know anything about Haywards play in GB. I'm convinced all your thoughts about football are formed off what you glean from things you read from others. I don't think you know much about football. But I do think you know more than your sidekick.
ChilliJon posted:Brown Paper Sack posted:Herschel posted:Jody posted:Fandame posted:Let’s see what Hawkins, et al, do with Pettine vs Dom. Maybe a change in scheme will help. I’m willing to wait andsee, but the lack of CBs is a bit disconcerting right now.
That is why I don't get the love affair for Joe Whitt, he hasn't developed any CB's,
Sam Shields, Tramon Williams and Casey Heyward would disagree.
Lol!
Pretty sure Hayward improved AFTER he left Green Bay.
Charles Woodson vouched for Whitt. Said he could coach. That's all there is to say about that.
Sack. You don't know anything about Haywards play in GB. I'm convinced all your thoughts about football are formed off what you glean from things you read from others. I don't think you know much about football. But I do think you know more than your sidekick.
Hayward had a good rookie season. I thought at the time the Packers might have fallen into a decent player for once. Then, he caught Packeritis with a bad hammy. Whitt developed him so well that he fell behind the guy your team just traded.
Packers let him go in free agency, he signs with the Chargers and goes on to play in back to back Pro Bowls.
Why do former Packer d-backs go on to play in Pro Bowls after they get away from Green Bay if Whitt is such a Yoda Jedi Master?
No need to upgrade the back 4, Joe Whitt will coach 'em up!
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