Brett Favre is retiring again

The Pennington "debate" started with a comment that it would have been a waste for Pennington to back up A-Rod last year.

Arguing that point has nothing to do with Pennington playing for another team.

Check your facts before your cute little one liners

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Originally posted by BigChiefSecurity:
yeah winning now sucks. I would prefer to continue to develop, I mean with Rodgers on the roster and off a fresh contract, it is good to have 2 more guys we can "develop" instead of one backup that can win right now and one backup to develop

So you would've benched Rodgers for Pennington? Pennington was looking for a starting job. Keep flapping those gums.

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Originally posted by BigChiefSecurity:
The Pennington "debate" started with a comment that it would have been a waste for Pennington to back up A-Rod last year.

Arguing that point has nothing to do with Pennington playing for another team.

Check your facts before your cute little one liners

Oh, so we're into fantasy land machinations now? Well, in that case I'm pretty upset the Packers didn't have pro bowlers at every position including depth.

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Originally posted by Henry: Moronic hyperbole as usual. The kid showed a lot in TC and it wasn't a secret he would've been plucked off the practice squad. He showed more than Brohm and I'm pretty sure you're not going to put Brohm on the practice squad.

Also, Pennington was looking for and found a starting job. No way that was happening with the Packers. That in itself should be enough to kill this "debate".

Someone could have "plucked" him off the practice squad for all I care. Maybe he showed something in training camp, I wasn't at the practices. Sure he did OK against scrubs in meaningless preseason games..I don't care.

The "Pennington Debate" is actually a vet backup debate. Pennington was thrown out there because of the thread. Of course he was looking for a starters jobs. Most are. All that was suggested was that IF he didn't get that offer and he WOULD come in for acceptable dough, he was a name batted around.

FYI, you attacked me last summer when I threw his name out there calling him a "rubber-armed" something-or-another. Nice 180 on Mr. Pennington...

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Originally posted by Boris:

What planet are you living on?

On what planet would the Packers have won MORE games with Pennington instead of Brohm & Flynn?

Do you guys actually think before you hit the post now button? It's quite obvious not.

You should really quit before you get even further behind

On what planet did the Packers win MORE games with Brohm and Flynn because they can develop them? It cost them a game in Tampa because they didn't trust a rookie QB to throw the ball

You could think when you hit post now when you claim a good, winning, veteran QB on the roster would be a waste

He attacks everyone, threads discussion never focus on allowing people to have and opinion any more, just slash, stab and bully.

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Originally posted by BigChiefSecurity:
Flynn could have "developed" just fine on the practice squad. If they would have lost Flynn, they still had 1 good young QB (A-Rod), 1 veteran you can win with(Pennington), and 1 guy to develop (Brohm).

I had wanted TT to grab a vet QB early last season (I wasn't chiming in specifically for Pennington, just a vet who could move the ball and not turn it over). TT made that offer to Cullpepper in April '08, who turned it down, then regretted it and wished he would have accepted. But then TT watched Flynn in pre-season and made the right decision (gladly proving me wrong) that the Packers would be ok with who was on their roster at QB.

As well as Chad played in '08, you cannot deny WHY he played so well. He was released from his old team and banished from the Jets to be replaced by the great Lord Favre. Further, he was then picked up by a division rival in the Dolphins whom they'd face twice a year including IIRC the 1st game of the regular season.

That ALONE would have given Chad focus, drive, and a passion to prove the Jets wrong that he just would not have had here. Then as the Jets and Dolphins season goes on, they get into a serious race for 1st place. Here again, plenty of drive and passion for Chad to keep playing well that he would have never received here.

It's is entirely possible and even more likely that if Pennington came here that he would not have been the same QB we saw in Miami. There were a ton of personal reasons that drove Chad to play the way he did in '08. And not a single one of them would have translated to being a Packer.

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Originally posted by chickenboy:

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Originally posted by Henry: Moronic hyperbole as usual. The kid showed a lot in TC and it wasn't a secret he would've been plucked off the practice squad. He showed more than Brohm and I'm pretty sure you're not going to put Brohm on the practice squad.

Also, Pennington was looking for and found a starting job. No way that was happening with the Packers. That in itself should be enough to kill this "debate".

Someone could have "plucked" him off the practice squad for all I care. Maybe he showed something in training camp, I wasn't at the practices. Sure he did OK against scrubs in meaningless preseason games..I don't care.

The "Pennington Debate" is actually a vet backup debate. Pennington was thrown out there because of the thread. Of course he was looking for a starters jobs. Most are. All that was suggested was that IF he didn't get that offer and he WOULD come in for acceptable dough, he was a name batted around.

FYI, you attacked me last summer when I threw him name out there calling him a "rubber-armed" something-or-another. Nice 180 on Mr. Pennington...

How the hell is me calling Pennington a rag arm a 180 Mr. Indignation? The point is he was going to a team to be a starter. If this conversation is about having a vet QB and Pennington wasn't a option what other great vet QBs were out there?

You don't get to play shoulda, coulda, woulda.

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Originally posted by Henry:

So you would've benched Rodgers for Pennington? Pennington was looking for a starting job. Keep flapping those gums.

Please go back and tell me where I said that Pennington should have started over Rodgers.

I will wait for your reply. I will be waiting a long time since I never said it.

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
He attacks everyone, threads discussion never focus on allowing people to have and opinion any more, just slash, stab and bully.

Don't hate me because you can't keep up. Par for the course.

Gee no cream puff, you must be running out of new replies.

He chips and misses.

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Originally posted by BigChiefSecurity:

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Originally posted by Henry:

So you would've benched Rodgers for Pennington? Pennington was looking for a starting job. Keep flapping those gums.

Please go back and tell me where I said that Pennington should have started over Rodgers.

I will wait for your reply. I will be waiting a long time since I never said it.

That's not the point. You're prattling on about Pennington as a backup and the fact is Pennington wasn't looking to be a backup, which would rule out the Packers bringing him in. See how that works? Of course not.

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Originally posted by chickenlittle:

The "Pennington Debate" is actually a vet backup debate. Pennington was thrown out there because of the thread. Of course he was looking for a starters jobs. Most are. All that was suggested was that IF he didn't get that offer and he WOULD come in for acceptable dough, he was a name batted around.

Hypotheticals? Really? That's how you're backing up your argument?

As long as we're throwing around hypotheticals, maybe Ben Roethldfslfsdls could have been released, and we would have signed him at veteran's min to backup A-Rodge. Or Tony Romo, or...maybe if we were lucky, Shaun Hill!

Defense and injuries are what made us go 6-10 this season. Not having two rookie backup QBs.

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
Gee no cream puff, you must be running out of new replies.

You're well past the cupcake stage. Now you're just a sad, sad fanboy.

Look "bro"

Stop trying to argue with me just to argue. It's starting to piss me off and I promise you, you don't want to do that. Stop trying to turn and twist everything I say to make yourself feel better.

Facts. Signing Pennington would have been and (now that we have 20-20 hindsight) still is a BAD move.

This entire conversation is completely pointless so I'm advising you a SECOND time to knock it off.

There will not be a third

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
He attacks everyone, threads discussion never focus on allowing people to have and opinion any more, just slash, stab and bully.

Then why, I ask, do you still hang around? Masochism much?

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Originally posted by Henry:

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
Gee no cream puff, you must be running out of new replies.

You're well past the cupcake stage. Now you're just a sad, sad fanboy.

And you bullying has out lived it's time, your predictable and tire some. You sir make people yawn.

Have a good day.

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Originally posted by Henry:
How the hell is me calling Pennington a rag arm a 180 Mr. Indignation? The point is he was going to a team to be a starter. If this conversation is about having a vet QB and Pennington wasn't a option what other great vet QBs were out there?

Your point last summer was anything but that. You said he was done over...no way you wanted him on the team...go with the green horns.

Pennington was available for a spell and I liked him if he would accept that role. He signed with the Phins to compete with that BYU kid, beat him out and the rest is history.

Also, there were NO great vets available. but there were veterans with experience who enjoyed some success in their careers and I would have chosen any one of them. Pep, Gus, Sims...whoever...

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
He attacks everyone, threads discussion never focus on allowing people to have and opinion any more, just slash, stab and bully.

Perfect timing, we actually have an opening for a whiny schoolgirl since Diggr left

Are you too busy pulling the sand out of your vagina or can we count on you to step up Tiny Tim ?

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Originally posted by Boris:
Look "bro"

Stop trying to argue with me just to argue. It's starting to piss me off and I promise you, you don't want to do that. Stop trying to turn and twist everything I say to make yourself feel better.

Facts. Signing Pennington would have been and (now that we have 20-20 hindsight) still is a BAD move.

This entire conversation is completely pointless so I'm advising you a SECOND time to knock it off.

There will not be a third

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Originally posted by Satori:

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
He attacks everyone, threads discussion never focus on allowing people to have and opinion any more, just slash, stab and bully.

Perfect timing, we actually have an opening for a whiny schoolgirl since Diggr left

Are you too busy pulling the sand out of your vagina or can we count on you to step up Tiny Tim ?

You must be Greg Bedard, I wouldn't have responded to this but you are such a ITG that you don't allow private topic's, LMAO

Sorry, got a life - I'll be back for more piling on.

I was in the "sign a vet QB" camp last year. Pack dodged a bullet when A12 played thru injuries, if either backup forced into starting more than a game or two it would have sunk GB's season. Remember Pack still in hunt when Aaron injured.

Yes I saw potential in Flynn and Brohm but not production. How did Flynn look filling in when A12 was out w/ shoulder injury? handoff, 3 & out, fumble 3 & out...

As for Favre, it's telling that Bus Cook asked Jets for his release. TOG wants to keep his options open...

X4 Rule 9: No arguing or debating the merits of a veteran backup QB. Especially Chad Pennington.

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Originally posted by chickenboy:

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Originally posted by Henry:
How the hell is me calling Pennington a rag arm a 180 Mr. Indignation? The point is he was going to a team to be a starter. If this conversation is about having a vet QB and Pennington wasn't a option what other great vet QBs were out there?

Your point last summer was anything but that. You said he was done over...no way you wanted him on the team...go with the green horns.

Pennington was available for a spell and I liked him if he would accept that role. He signed with the Phins to compete with that BYU kid, beat him out and the rest is history.

Also, there were NO great vets available. but there were veterans with experience who enjoyed some success in their careers and I would have chosen any one of them. Pep, Gus, Sims...whoever...

Really? I think you should dig that up and let's look at the discussion.

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Originally posted by :
X4 Rule 9: No arguing or debating the merits of a veteran backup QB. Especially Chad Pennington.

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:

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Originally posted by Henry:

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
Gee no cream puff, you must be running out of new replies.

You're well past the cupcake stage. Now you're just a sad, sad fanboy.

And you bullying has out lived it's time, your predictable and tire some. You sir make people yawn.

Have a good day.

Bye. If you don't have a take, hit the bricks.

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Originally posted by Henry:
I just wanted to say again that Pennington has the most ridiculous rag arm. Hell, I wasn't against bringing him in as a backup either.

http://timesfour.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/938109321/m/892...221018123#1221018123

Posted on Sept. 7th

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Originally posted by Henry: I just wanted to say again that Pennington has the most ridiculous rag arm. Hell, I wasn't against bringing him in as a backup either.

I'll keep updating this . . .

Posted on Aug. 8th

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Originally posted by Henry: PackerUpdate has been saying for awhile TT will get a vet QB. If they do they'll have to carry 4 QBs if they really think Flynn has a future. Doesn't sound like he'll last very long on the practice squad but MM and TT may be willing to make that sacrifice. I have no problem with Pennington considering MM could design a check down passing scheme to fit his style.

Whoopsie! Somebody was wrong. BAWK! I've always liked Pennington but he has a rag arm, that's a fact.

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:

You must be Greg Bedard, I wouldn't have responded to this but you are such a ITG that you don't allow private topic's, LMAO

I do allow PM's its just that you were set to "IGNORE"

When I see it really happening I'll believe it! Until then I won't believe it!

To be fair... the other side of the debate from last summer...

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Originally posted by chickenboy:
Pennington would be awesome but would suspect he will be starting somewhere.

http://timesfour.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/938109321/m/930...111042713#5111042713

YAWN
Last year should never have happened.
He could have retired a legend and been loved by all.
Now, who cares.

Good that Favre was able to cause one more fight before leaving.

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Originally posted by kworst:
YAWN
Last year should never have happened.
He could have retired a legend and been loved by all.
Now, who cares.

Well said kworst. Favre is one most responsible for his legacy as it currently stands.

good work boys. i've been looking for 10 minutes thru the million topics about this (or threads that evolved into this).

I'll eat my crow on that...

So C-Boy (so far) was wrong when he said Henry said he didn't want any part CPenn. However, he was correct when he stated Henry said he was a rag arm.

Oh thanks for that slayer...... that's just great.

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Originally posted by JJSD:
To be fair... the other side of the debate from last summer...

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Originally posted by chickenboy:
Pennington would be awesome but would suspect he will be starting somewhere.

http://timesfour.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/938109321/m/930...111042713#5111042713

Nothing to be fair about. I knew what I said last summer. I also knew that Pennington wasn't going to be a backup and the other options sucked. I never have a problem with developing guys.

Poor chicken trying to make himself a victim.

Good lord I hope its for good this time...I need time to forget this last year.

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Originally posted by Max:
Good that Favre was able to cause one more fight before leaving.

Vindictive pricks do that.

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Originally posted by Goldie:
Oh thanks for that slayer...... that's just great.

just because I don't like favre peeing on me doesn't mean I wouldn't let you do it