Someone might find a loophole...

There's no proof that you weren't beating your wife last month

 

 

Do I have a history of that? 

 

Once a liar and a cheat, always a liar and a cheat.

 vs.  vs.

 

Which one ya think tested positive for PED's?

Gabe Kapler...lol.  Pretty sure he was a mentor for Braun early on.  Makes sense.

not Gabe I'm afraid, try again. 

I know the answer but the picture is funny...

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12...-good-guys.html?_r=0

 

Braun is listed at 6 feet 1 inch and 210 pounds, but he seems smaller. He said in June that he had worked out with Gabe Kapler, a former teammate. Kapler is well known for his physique, but Braun said in June that he was not going for bulk.

 

Nice try Gabe.  Hard boiled eggs and tuna sandwiches.

I know I am going to start eating more hard boiled eggs

 

Rob Manfred - MLB executive vice president

 

Link:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne...ppeal_manfred_022412

 

There you go dumb-dumb!

But Braun never mentioned Laurenzi by name. It was the talking heads who released it. So how can Braun be held liable for trashing Laurenzi's reputation. Nobody would have known anything about the whole affair if ESPN had not released the story and then named who was involved. Guess the dum dum is on the other foot now.

"Because earlier in the day, I received an email. It was from somebody in Braun's camp, I would later confirm, who wrote me and other reporters under a pseudonym.



Here it is in its entirety: "To Whom It May Concern: The purpose of this email is to tell the other side of the story about Ryan Braun's positive drug test. I have reason to know that the circumstances surrounding his testing are very suspicious. You might be interested to know that the person who administered the test, Dino Laurenzi, a collection agent for Comprehensive Drug Testing, is an athletic trainer as well as the director of rehabilitation at United Hospital Systems in Kenosha, WI. This means that Laurenzi would have unfettered access to lab equipment and, if he was so inclined, would provide him the necessary resources and opportunity to tamper with the test. He lives in Kenosha, WI. I'm writing this because I think that Braun's reputation is being unfairly attacked because of the lack of information regarding his side of the story. The information regarding Laurenzi in this email will lead you down the proper path to discover the irregularities involving Ryan's test. I hope that this information is useful to you so that you may conduct your own investigation and I'm confident that you'll be blown away by what you discover."



http://sports.yahoo.com/news/r...mself-050550708.html

 

I bought it all.

Don't forget the healing powers of bromine which is found naturally in pineapple.  Hard boiled eggs and pineapple for breakfast and maybe just maybe you can morph into Gabe Kapler.

 

If only I had 10 minutes of Braun's time to explain the benefits of eating a diet rich in pineapple.

makes your semen taste better

 

so I've heard

Is this the quote everyone is tripping over themselves about?

 

“Again, I honestly don’t know what happened to it for that 44-hour period. There are a lot of different things that could have possibly happened. There were a lot of things that we heard about the collection process, the collector and some other people involved in the process that have certainly been concerning to us. But beyond that, as I’ve dealt with this situation, I know what it’s like to be wrongly accused of something and for me to wrongly accuse somebody else of something wouldn’t help anybody.”

When I first heard Jose Canseco years ago, I thought the guy was an absolute maniac that was muttering garbage.  I turned the station many times when he was a guest on various talk shows.  Today I caught an interview with Doug Gottlieb and I have to say if Selig has yet to sit down with Canseco and at least listen to him, he is doing the game of baseball and all of its supporters a disservice.

 

Canseco is a nutjob there is no doubting that but he was also the one that came out and said the sport was littered with steroid abusers when everyone laughed.  I would be willing to bet that he has a bunch more names that would shock most people.  Who knows maybe Selig doesn't want to open this up that much before he rides into the sunset over in Bayside, WI.  Not saying everything that Canseco will say is gospel and should be applied by MLB but Jose Canseco is someone that could put this clean-up process into another gear.

Here is a link for the interview.  He goes nutjob when talking about Captain America but there is some good stuff.

 

http://gottlieb.radio.cbssport...selig-should-resign/

And Canseco is 110% correct that Selig needs to resign asap.

Just don't toss the yolks.  Great for your balls.

I'm sure being out of baseball for 10 year doesn't matter when we are talking about Canseco, he probably is still tight with a lot of these kids nowadays.  He might be able to speculate on Sosa and Bonds and Big Mac. 

Rules for suspended players

Yeah, connections with dealers has nothing to do with it.  Those guys never talk. 

Just so I'm clear.  Your "proof" that Laurenzi didn't screw up, but MLB did, is linking to a MLB source saying explicitly that Laurenzi did in fact screw up because he didn't follow the language in the MLB drug testing agreement and instead followed the language of the drug testing procedures that drug facility established themselves, but wasn't at all relevant for the job and the procedures for MLB?

 

Per your awesome source:

 

"The Arbitrator found that those instructions were not consistent with certain language in our program"

 

Just like Braun said.  

 

If your goal was to completely tank your own argument (you know the one where you called us all dumb dumbs), MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

STOP BRINGING UP FACTS AMMO, I MEAN DUMB DUMB!

 

MASS SPECTROMETER!  PEE! 

Reading comprehension difficulties?

“He handled Mr. Braun’s sample consistent with instructions issued by our jointly retained collection agency. The Arbitrator found that those instructions were not consistent with certain language in our program, even though the instructions were identical to those used by many other drug programs – including the other professional sports and the World Anti-Doping Agency.”

 

MLB and the union jointly hired the collection agency.  The collection agency had a set of instructions that Laurenzi was directed to follow.  Those instructions are consistent with other professional sports and the World Anti-Doping Agency.  MLB failed to confirm that those instructions matched the language in MLB's protocol.  Therefore, the problem was not with Laurenzi's actions, but with the way MLB had written the protocol.  With this statement MLB admitted that Laurenzi did as he was instructed, but MLB's protocol was written in a way that was inconsistent with the agencies instructions, the procedures used by other professional sports and the procedures used by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

 

BTW, how does it feel to know that Braun played you for a fool this whole time?

 

 

Over your head.

No where did that quote from your exec say "the problem was with our written guidelines".  He didn't say "we forgot to tell him to follow our program"  He didn't say "we goofed up when we wrote the guidelines, because they weren't exactly like other organizations". 

 

No where did it say that.  You made that up.  He stated that the arbitrator found that Laurenzi didn't follow MLB's program.  Which happens to be the only program that matters when testing MLB players. 

 

He stated that Laurenzi's actions were not consistent with MLB's guidelines laid out.  Laurenzi followed the agencies protocol, he didn't follow MLB's protocol. 

 

Just like Braun said. 

 

And, help me out, how did Braun play me for a fool?  I'm really interested in this response.  Can't wait to see more made up arguments!

We should definitely listen to the words of this man. 

What's the argument about here?

 

It's abundantly clear that Braun is a cheater and a liar. There's really no debating either point. Whether he was an ongoing cheater or not is really a moot point -- none of us know the details of his drug use and it doesn't really matter. The more damning behavior, of course, wasn't his cheating -- it was the self righteous lying he's done over the past year and a half. He's baseball's Lance Armstrong now.

 

As a Brewers fan, it's very disappointing. But I suspect many of us already have realized by now that sports heroes aren't real heroes. He's not the first guy that's disappointed this fan base and he won't be the last. And just like Giants fans with Barry Bonds, when he's back next year and slugging the ball again, more and more fans will forgive Braun the player even though they are disappointed by Braun the man.

 

Two things that I don't understand: 1) why did he hold that absurd press conference and act so adamantly in front of the cameras? It was completely unnecessary given what we now know -- Joe Posnanski has a good column on this; and 2) I'm shocked he even caved now. At this point he was pot committed to the innocent story, and the Bonds/Clemens sagas show how hard it is to prove anything even if your reputation is sullied

I laugh at all of you dum dums.  It matters not what any of you feel.  Once Al tells me what to think, we will be done here.

Once again, part nutjob?  Yes, of course.  However a great resource on the who/what/where/when/why/how of steroids in baseball.

quote:

That money would have been better spent with Greinke or Fielder.  Melvin should be held accountable.  Prince Fielder, the new ironman of baseball.  440 or so games in a row.

 

And how exactly do we know that Greinke and Fielder haven't been juicing? 

 

Braun's admission is really a downer but in reality should it be?  I mean, everyone touts MLB as having the best drug testing policy in all of professional sports, but if that's the case how is it that time after time you have players beating the system and the tests?   I realize that the cheaters will usually be a step ahead but it's pretty ridiculous.

 

If there is a silver lining, the Brewers season was tanked well before Braun got suspended so no harm no foul.   And yes, I know I should be more outraged about this subject but it's more of the same.   You can't put anyone on a pedestal because in the end most people are going to do what they can to take care of themselves and that's exactly what Braun has done.  He's not murdering anyone and he gets paid a lot of money to play a kid's game so whatever.

 

Looking forward to 2014 at this point.   The season could not get over with fast enough for your Milwaukee Brewers!

If prince is/was juicing, then I am an astronaut.

Dude, stating the one's physique is any indication on whether or not one is taking PEDs does not help your argument.

 

One thing I do want to say is Braun would help his cause with Crew fans if he did a press conference in person and answered some questions. I'm sure much about the investigation he cannot disclose but there needs to be something more than just that press release.

Duuuuude, his dad was one of the most prolific power hitters of his era. He was mashing balls out of tiger stadium at age 12.

 

ricky misses you carrying his jock around Barcelona.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...457z1-216698381.html

 

Because Braun's statement of apology merely acknowledged he made "mistakes" without providing details, some wondered if the club should coax him into holding a news conference to answer questions in person. But club officials do not know details of the suspension and wouldn't be sure what he might say, so that is unlikely to happen.

I doubt we ever really hear anything of detail.  I've speculated what I think went on, but my speculation isn't really worth a damn.  Maybe he was taking anabolic steroids, who knows. 

 

I don't think disappearing until spring helps Braun's case any, but I would speculate that is what will happen.