Jermichael Finley

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Does a bear.....

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
That said, while he cannot control what his agent says, he can certainly control who his agent is. I'd have a short conversation with this assclown if he were my agent.

That agent came out on the short end in his dealings with GB so he may have some residual butthurt- Finley didn't get the long term monster deal he wanted...he got a "show me" deal for two years

Rodgers may or may not have had a role in the discussions inside of 1265, but he didn't come out publicly in favor of resigning Finley like he did with James Jones

could be some butthurt there too...

...wear a funny hat?

the football field is no place for butthurt. play the game!

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‏@JermichaelF88 I still Love y'all!! #GoPackGo

Wonder if he's reading x4?

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Originally posted by Shoeless Joe:

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it's hard for me to remember another Packer player with a bigger mouth that made so many mistakes.

*Cough* Darren Sharper *Cough*

Sure, he made mistakes, and was an insufferable d-bag at times...but the guy made up for it with game-changing INTs on a fairly regular basis. YOTTO drops key third down passes on a fairly regular basis.

I wish GB had Darlene on the team last year before that Hail Mary against the NYG. He was the greatest football player of all time at picking those off. And then trying to run them back and getting hurt.

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Originally posted by JJSD:
I wish GB had Darlene on the team last year before that Hail Mary against the NYG. He was the greatest football player of all time at picking those off. And then trying to run them back and getting hurt.

+1

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Originally posted by packerboi:
If Finley plays exactly how he did today for the rest of the season:

112 catches. 752 yards. 16 TD's.

That was after game 1. After game 2 his projected stats look like this:
88 catches, 584 yards, 8 TD's

I heard on the way home that Finley's agent tweeted some unkind comments about AR. I looked for an online link but couldn't find it. So it must be real recent.

All I have to say is that I'll listen when his client stops dropping the ball.

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Originally posted by Ghost of Lambeau:

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Originally posted by packerboi:
If Finley plays exactly how he did today for the rest of the season:

112 catches. 752 yards. 16 TD's.

That was after game 1. After game 2 his projected stats look like this:
88 catches, 584 yards, 8 TD's

Don't forget the 8 fumbles/lost fumbles and the countless drops.

Not interested in making excuses for JerkMichel but after what he's done to the CHI D in the past, I'm fairly certain they put him near the top of the list of guys to stop.

The problem with potential with respect to Finley is that I think sometimes drops is something that just doesn't go away. It's hard to predict as I think it's mainly a mental thing.

Unfortunately, I see it as possible he never improves from the standpoint of dropping the football.

He is not a leader as his agent will eloquently tell you,he also has proved he isnt much of a ball catcher

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Originally posted by phaedrus:
I think sometimes drops is something that just doesn't go away.

like the "yips" in baseball? I hope Jordy doesn't catch it again.

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Originally posted by phaedrus:
The problem with potential with respect to Finley is that I think sometimes drops is something that just doesn't go away. It's hard to predict as I think it's mainly a mental thing.

Unfortunately, I see it as possible he never improves from the standpoint of dropping the football.

We have see Jones and Nelson both have bad years with the drops.. As far as I recall, it wasn't a problem for Mouth up until last year. The first 2 weeks are not a good sign that it was an anomaly, but we have seen it in the past with other players.

Yup.

There are examples where the ball-handling improved. Perhaps it was one of the Kramer books of the account of Travis Williams. He had fumble issues and Lombardi ordered him to carry a football EVERYWHERE, including in bed.

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Originally posted by phaedrus:
The problem with potential with respect to Finley is that I think sometimes drops is something that just doesn't go away. It's hard to predict as I think it's mainly a mental thing.

I think it definitely can stick with a guy for his career. Guys like Owens and Marshall had/have regularly found themselves leading the league in drops. But they made up for it with production that most teams would gladly take at the cost of the drops.

I think what makes it a different problem for Finley is twofold: A)While Marshall and Owens were focal points, Finley is somewhere between the 3rd and 4th priority in this offense. Because of this, the drops represent a larger volume of his targets, and stand out even more. B) This team really needs Finley to be a move-the-sticks kind of guy. If Jones drops a home run shot it's maddening, but that's a 50/50 ball anyway that's probably coming on 1st or 2nd down. A drop over the middle on 3rd and 6 just killed a drive that depends on those shorter pickups.

I can't ever look at Finley without thinking about his ridiculous Wild Card game against Arizona, and just hope he can find that form again.

some synapses just misfired in my brain and popped this idea up on the brainscreen: should Finley just be put at WR period?

he ain't much of a blocker and I could see him being a pretty good slot receiver...

go ahead and shoot some holes in it.

The beauty of TE's (and part of the current fascination with them) is that the defense is uncertain what they are going to do on any given play

WRs almost always run a route, TE's do not and therein lies the value - deception, confusion and delay in responding

From Gregg Easterbrook at TMQ:

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/...king-modern-defenses

@Packerpedia
Jermichael Finley has 25 catches for 389 yards and three TDs in his past four games on Monday Night Football.

No word on how many drops.

I hope Finley has 25 catches for 389 yards and three TDs in his game on Monday Night Football vs. Seattle

For Finley's sake, I wish the Packers played every Monday night.

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Originally posted by Satori:
WRs almost always run a route, TE's do not and therein lies the value - deception, confusion and delay in responding

True to a point. Watch enough film and you begin to get a picture of what a teams TEs are capable of. Some are better at catching balls, some are better blockers, some are more uncomfortable playing from certain positions, and some are better overall athletes than others. When you see who is on the field, your defense (if they are prepared properly) should have a real good idea what to expect. Very rarely do enough of these traits come together in a single TE to make that guy a complete TE.

If I were coaching Finley, I might try telling him al week that the game is another practice and to go out & have fun. But either way, for Finley - time to step up.

Is there any realistic chance that he could be benched next week, particularly if he indeed leads the league in drops?

Benching him would accomplish nothing. Most guys would respond to something like that positively, but he'll just throw a temper tantrum (which may or may not be expressed through his agent making more idiotic tweets).

Ted needs to cut bait with this guy. Any positive momentum he gained last week went out the door today with his lackluster efforts catching the ball. Finley doesn't fit on this team. He just doesn't.

Drop him and Shields, Fire the offensive line Coach and bring in two new offensive linemen!!

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
Drop him and Shields, Fire the offensive line Coach and bring in two new offensive linemen!!

I got no problem with Shields. He's been absolutely jobbed on 2 horrible pass interference calls in the past 3 weeks. He's played okay.

Yeah, but that's how the NFL is now. Other DBs can avoid these calls, ours can't. Of course they've been watching the Packers DBs like hawks ever since they had Woodson and Harris playing their physical style, but that's still not an excuse.

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
Drop him and Shields, Fire the offensive line Coach and bring in two new offensive linemen!!

And some say we don't/won't have any draft needs - what do they know?

BTW - hire a new OL coach?

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Originally posted by fightphoe93:

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
Drop him and Shields, Fire the offensive line Coach and bring in two new offensive linemen!!

I got no problem with Shields. He's been absolutely jobbed on 2 horrible pass interference calls in the past 3 weeks. He's played okay.

yep, Shields has been pretty good thus far. He is NOT the problem.

I think Shields has really improved his tackling and looks to be more agressive against the run. I have no issues with Shields so far.

Shields isn't in the same league is Finley. He admits it when he screws up, and he is a guy that seems to want to get better. Finley is a egomaniac and a headcase.

I may regret this, but I have lost all faith in Finley..

drop Shields?

it just keeps getting better

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Originally posted by R MaN:
I may regret this, but I have lost all faith in Finley..

He's a bad player, and if he isn't able to shape up before the year is over, he should probably just be cut before training camp to make a point about the team's tolerance for people like him.