The team may have lost faith in Finley. Make me wonder if that dust up his agent cause a couple of weeks ago calling Rodger a poor leader is more serious then we know.
That garbage his agent spewed wouldn't have came out unless Finley had a conversation on the topic with him and felt the same on at least some level. He may have just been blowing off steam or whatever, but he played some role in those comments.
You don't know that. The agent could be just another douchebag with his own opinion from watching the game.
None of the comments contained anything you couldn't get from watching it on t.v.
ASS out of U and ME much?
None of the comments contained anything you couldn't get from watching it on t.v.
ASS out of U and ME much?
Finley sucks. Trade him to New York for Tebow.
Next week (if he plays) he'll have 7 catches 123 yards and 2 TD's (0 drops)
quote:Originally posted by R MaN:
I may regret this, but I have lost all faith in Finley..
Me too.
quote:You don't know that. The agent could be just another douchebag
That's a good point, most agents are lawyers after all.
quote:Next week (if he plays) he'll have 7 catches 123 yards and 2 TD's (0 drops)
I'll have some of what Boris is smoking.
No longer relaxed?
Take a step back from the NFL. You'll see that what actually happens on the field doesn't matter. The NFL calls the games as they see fit to keep scores close & generate interest in the game. They don't want any blowouts. (They didn't have a choice with the Bills & Jags, they're pitiful) Look at the bull$hit call at the end of the Saints/Chargers game to keep the game alive. Fortunately for the Saints they won on a sack/strip of Rivers (to which I immediately called "tuck rule!" But this isn't the Raiders (taliban) vs. the Patriots (U.S.) in Jan 2002) I guess the NFL felt sorry for the Saints & allowed the strip sack this time.
Awwww......
Take a step back from the NFL. You'll see that what actually happens on the field doesn't matter. The NFL calls the games as they see fit to keep scores close & generate interest in the game. They don't want any blowouts. (They didn't have a choice with the Bills & Jags, they're pitiful) Look at the bull$hit call at the end of the Saints/Chargers game to keep the game alive. Fortunately for the Saints they won on a sack/strip of Rivers (to which I immediately called "tuck rule!" But this isn't the Raiders (taliban) vs. the Patriots (U.S.) in Jan 2002) I guess the NFL felt sorry for the Saints & allowed the strip sack this time.
Awwww......
Everything is about "fairness".
But I refuse to wear matching pumps with my skirt.
But I refuse to wear matching pumps with my skirt.
quote:Originally posted by Boris: Look at the bull$hit call at the end of the Saints/Chargers game to keep the game alive. Fortunately for the Saints they won on a sack/strip of Rivers (to which I immediately called "tuck rule!"
Fortunately for the Saints? Two B.S. calls against the Bolts dictated that B.S. to at least give the Bolts a sliver of a chance before the fumble. Bolts on a game tying drive with plenty of time before a HORRIBLE offensive PI and a ticky-tack holding call.
Hater.
What is it about "fairness" you don't understand?
What is it about "fairness" you don't understand?
quote:Look at the bull$hit call at the end of the Saints/Chargers game to keep the game alive.
I didn't watch the Saints/Chargers game. Is that part of the "Take a step back from the NFL" you were talking about?
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:quote:Look at the bull$hit call at the end of the Saints/Chargers game to keep the game alive.
I didn't watch the Saints/Chargers game. Is that part of the "Take a step back from the NFL" you were talking about?
Nah....he and evertone else is watching the games....
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Next week (if he plays) he'll have 7 catches 123 yards and 2 TD's (0 drops)
He just might because he is playing close to home. Probably be in 12's ear all night telling him to throw me the ball.
quote:Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Next week (if he plays) he'll have 7 catches 123 yards and 2 TD's (0 drops)
He just might because he is playing close to home. Probably be in 12's ear all night telling him to throw me the ball.
Throwing him the ball has not been the problem.....#12 to #88, catch it.
quote:Originally posted by Shoeless Joe:quote:You don't know that. The agent could be just another douchebag
That's a good point, most agents are lawyers after all.
You don't know a single ****ing thing about me.
I haven't seen JFin make much a difference this year at all.
DJ Williams, Crabtree, so far they can do anything JF has. Where is this elite downfield threat I've heard so much about?
DJ Williams, Crabtree, so far they can do anything JF has. Where is this elite downfield threat I've heard so much about?
WTF?
@RobDemovsky
Finley: "I know if I’m hurt or not. Just didn’t want to risk it going in again and reinjuring it. I’ll be back in Houston for sure."
Playing scared?
@RobDemovsky
Finley: "I know if I’m hurt or not. Just didn’t want to risk it going in again and reinjuring it. I’ll be back in Houston for sure."
Playing scared?
I've heard a word that rhymes with wuss used to describe him....
quote:Originally posted by Pistol GB:
The agent could be just another douchebag with his own opinion from watching the game.
Perhaps, but I never heard Finley publicly denounce or disagree with the statement. Maybe I missed it.
Hoping the coaches make the right call with Finley moving forward. If he is truly not the right fit, McCarthy needs to relay that to Bud Light on the Rocks asap. Get him out of GB and open up the offense again. Maybe those discussions are already happening or maybe some of us are overreacting. Thinking it's the former but you never know.
Glad to see the majority is now seeing the light. Can we please stop talking about this guy like he is a top tier TE now?
He hasn't had a 100 yard receiving game in OVER 2 YEARS!
His Last multi TD game was over a full year ago.
Over the past 2 seasons, he leads the entire NFL in drops.
He hasn't had a 100 yard receiving game in OVER 2 YEARS!
His Last multi TD game was over a full year ago.
Over the past 2 seasons, he leads the entire NFL in drops.
Trade him for anything you can get. Even a case of bud light. Maybe get a years supply of ice.
I don't care if Finley, by some unforeseen turn of events, lights up the Texans Sunday night. This guy is damaged goods, and I don't want him around next season.
I don't remember a player in this team's history with such a propensity for saying mind-numbingly stupid schitt as often as he does.
I don't remember a player in this team's history that has killed as many drives as he has with a perfectly inopportune drop.
I don't remember a player in this team's history taking veiled shots at its QB through his agent (I'll never be convinced the agent was just sharing his own opinions for the hell of it), as a way of deflecting his own glaring deficiencies on the field.
Seriously, WTF is that garbage? Is this guy seriously so dumb as to say this to a reporter? No wonder he struggles to this day with the playbook. Not much going on upstairs for J-Mike, I'm afraid.
The guy annoys me. There, I'm done ranting now.
I don't remember a player in this team's history with such a propensity for saying mind-numbingly stupid schitt as often as he does.
I don't remember a player in this team's history that has killed as many drives as he has with a perfectly inopportune drop.
I don't remember a player in this team's history taking veiled shots at its QB through his agent (I'll never be convinced the agent was just sharing his own opinions for the hell of it), as a way of deflecting his own glaring deficiencies on the field.
quote:@RobDemovsky
Finley: "I know if I’m hurt or not. Just didn’t want to risk it going in again and reinjuring it. I’ll be back in Houston for sure."
Seriously, WTF is that garbage? Is this guy seriously so dumb as to say this to a reporter? No wonder he struggles to this day with the playbook. Not much going on upstairs for J-Mike, I'm afraid.
The guy annoys me. There, I'm done ranting now.
I don't remember a player with as much physical talent as he has that simply does not answer the bell. It's one thing to simply explain it away that he lacks concentration on the drops, it's another thing with all the behind the scenes BS with him shooting off his mouth.
I guess it really does go back to when he was drafted. There's a reason he was selected where he was and that was because he lacked maturity and focus. He probably had first round talent, but as we've seen many times before some guys just never make that leap.
I'm ready to turn the page with the guy as well. I'll take someone with half the talent that is consistent because you know what you are getting and they are simply more reliable. Between his penalties and drops he's a coach killer and I'm done with it.
I guess it really does go back to when he was drafted. There's a reason he was selected where he was and that was because he lacked maturity and focus. He probably had first round talent, but as we've seen many times before some guys just never make that leap.
I'm ready to turn the page with the guy as well. I'll take someone with half the talent that is consistent because you know what you are getting and they are simply more reliable. Between his penalties and drops he's a coach killer and I'm done with it.
at this point I'm more a Crabtree fan than a finley fan. Crabbie is the classic no nonsense punch ya when I'm not running a route TE. yep, half the athleticism but 20x the heart and desire.
On a day when GB did all they could to get Finley involved, motivated, engaged... he was having none of it.
Then again it wasn't much better for Crabtree:
link
Too many Packers are not playing up to their ability. That needs to change.
As far as Finley goes, I'm fine with Wiliams getting the majority of the snaps.
quote:Mike McCarthy went out of his way this week to get Jermichael Finley out of his funk. On the first play of his script, he split Finley wide left against LCB Cassius Vaughn, who along with nickel back Josh Gordy were pressed into duty because of injury. The ball went straight to Finley on a run-pass option from Aaron Rodgers, but all Finley could gain was 2. On the second play, Finley ran a basic Y-stick route for 3. Before departing with a shoulder injury early in the third quarter, Finley had another critical drop on a short pass that probably would have given the Packers a first down just into Colts territory with 1 minute left in the half. That was disappointing enough, but his blocking was even worse. On a toss, Finley was late off the ball and couldn't cut off LB Dwight Freeney at the point, which knocked the blocking askew and wrecked the play. On an 18-yard screen pass, Finley had a variety of opponents that he could have looked up and decked as Cedric Benson slammed for 18. Because Finley doesn't play like a tough guy, he really didn't block anyone. His blocking probably is getting worse. He also had a motion penalty
Then again it wasn't much better for Crabtree:
quote:Tom Crabtree's snap count climbed to 30 in Finley's absence. Although regarded by the coaches as one of the most fundamentally sound blockers on the roster, Crabtree had a rough day. Even though Crabtree outweighs OLB Robert Mathis by 10 pounds, he turned his shoulders and made it too easy for Mathis to sack Rodgers in 2.6 seconds. He also had a penalty for holding Freeney and was displaced a yard or more into the backfield on several run blocks
link
Too many Packers are not playing up to their ability. That needs to change.
As far as Finley goes, I'm fine with Wiliams getting the majority of the snaps.
quote:Originally posted by Tschmack:
I don't remember a player with as much physical talent as he has that simply does not answer the bell.
that wasn't a running back. RB's have cornered the market on wasted physical talent.
Jordy Nelson (62 snaps) dropped his fourth pass in five games and was held to two receptions by a weak secondary.
From Chilli's link. I don't remember a drop from Jordy (perhaps self preservation is making me forget), but here is another theme I am not pleased with.
From Chilli's link. I don't remember a drop from Jordy (perhaps self preservation is making me forget), but here is another theme I am not pleased with.
Jordy is a number 2. He needs Jennings to force defenses to single up on Jordy. Then watchout. The Steelers doubled Jennings during the Super Bowl and Jordy went wild.
quote:Originally posted by ChilliJon:
Then again it wasn't much better for Crabtree:
Tough call on Crabtree-
he is just back from his injury and getting up to speed and he draws Freeney & Mathis in solo blocking match-ups.
They make Pro Bowlers look silly
Yeah I don't blame Crabtree one bit on those missed blocks. Pro Bowl DEs vs. #2 TE...gee I wonder who is going to win! My hunch is, in regard to the play where he was matched up with Mathis, that Rodgers was supposed to get the ball out really quickly and didn't. No coach is that dumb to think Crabtree could block Matthis for more than a second or two, I think Rodgers screwed that one up (as I think he has on many of the sacks he's taken). And as for run blocking Freeney, the strength of that defense is their OLBs ability to get up-field in a hurry and make plays, why you wouldn't run inside all day long against their interior is beyond me? So yeah, if you're going to insist on running off-tackle, you're going to have to find a way to neutralize Freeney with more than a TE because he's a better run defender than some think.
